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Post by baconburger on Sept 4, 2024 9:50:46 GMT
So am I. But he’s far from the genius he’s been painted to be. SJW and Darnborough got serious grief before a signing was even made while Jared being left go was apparently part of Walters plan to move in Huth, Pulis et al in some weird takeover. It didn’t happen but the weird conspiracy theories persist. Strange folk with very active imaginations who correlate Walters’ football philosophy with that of Tony Pulis just because he happened to play under him for a few years. Weird. OK then tell me what is more logical than his associations with Pulis and Dyche which covers the bulk of his professional career and what’s weird about surmising that he would have most likely developed his footballing philosophy during that period? It’s neither a fact or some weird contortion of the imagination, it’s just a consequence of employing someone with no track record. |
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Post by stantheman on Sept 4, 2024 9:51:06 GMT
Are you sure £1.8m?.... Team talk .... "Mmaee joined Stoke from Hungarian side Ferencvaros last summer on a three-year contract for approximately £3.4m" That was with all the add-ons. It was widely reported as an initial £1.75m, with most of the rest only payable if we went up (yeah, right!)  5 goals! Why did I think he had scored more than that? Aother one to add to the long list of failed strikers we've paid millions for. |
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Post by baconburger on Sept 4, 2024 9:57:11 GMT
And they will. Until a time comes where he appoints a HC/manager. I’m not sure what else will reveal his footballing identity. I’m satisfied that in the last window he/they provided Schu with the profile of player he clearly wanted. Young, hungry, high energy. I’m afraid when you have a healthy/irrational suspicion of a person it’s not something that will evaporate easily or quickly. I think it would be detached from reality to argue that the regime/s to which he is associated rightly or wrongly were/are extremely divisive, you either love them or you hate them and there’s not too much in between. He’s there in the job so you can rejoice and for us who it doesn’t sit well with there’s very little we can do about it or would want to unless our fears are realised. I dare say we weren’t a majority then but were of a significant enough number to make them listen. I for one certainly won’t wait and suffer dinosaur football for 10 years this time before taking a stand should it reappear. I’m curious about why any Stoke fan would hate Jon Walters? Even by Oatcake standards that’s pretty fucking batshit. It’s about as batshit as thinking he was universally popular as a player or that the regime at the time was universally popular. There’s a vast difference between hating something/someone to not particularly liking or trusting them. |
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 4, 2024 10:06:33 GMT
Strange folk with very active imaginations who correlate Walters’ football philosophy with that of Tony Pulis just because he happened to play under him for a few years. Weird. OK then tell me what is more logical than his associations with Pulis and Dyche which covers the bulk of his professional career and what’s weird about surmising that he would have most likely developed his footballing philosophy during that period? It’s neither a fact or some weird contortion of the imagination, it’s just a consequence of employing someone with no track record. Walters made more league appearances for Stoke under Mark Hughes than Tony Pulis. His role nowadays isn’t linked to his playing career, or his former managers, in any way, shape or form. |
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Post by Los Alfareros on Sept 4, 2024 12:50:34 GMT
So, any confirmation of this deal??
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Post by baconburger on Sept 4, 2024 13:51:15 GMT
OK then tell me what is more logical than his associations with Pulis and Dyche which covers the bulk of his professional career and what’s weird about surmising that he would have most likely developed his footballing philosophy during that period? It’s neither a fact or some weird contortion of the imagination, it’s just a consequence of employing someone with no track record. Walters made more league appearances for Stoke under Mark Hughes than Tony Pulis. His role nowadays isn’t linked to his playing career, or his former managers, in any way, shape or form. So it’s not normal thinking to imagine they might have had an influence?? You’re just making a pathetic attempt to criticise people thinking how people generally think. He spent a lot of his playing career playing for dour dinosaur managers and people who particularly don’t like dour dinosaur managers feel it may have influenced him. He’s as yet nothing to show an identity of his own. When he does it will either prove to be correct or not. If it isn’t I still won’t feel badly about thinking it. I’ll leave you to decide your own thoughts. |
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Post by davethebass on Sept 4, 2024 16:00:15 GMT
Not So Rapid Vienna, then. "...They're a good team, and when they're fit and sharp and they can run around at the intensity we need them to, then they'll be Rapid Vienna..." |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 4, 2024 16:21:17 GMT
Has he actually gone on loan or not
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 4, 2024 16:25:50 GMT
Has he actually gone on loan or not Not holding shirt up yet - but looks like they want to complete it today so he can play in Europe for them this season www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-leicester-transfer-tom-cannon-9530154Cannon has been handed the number 9 shirt at Stoke and is on standby to immediately replace Ryan Mmaee in the starting XI from a win at Plymouth last weekend, with Mmaee in Austria to complete a loan switch to Rapid Vienna. sportwitness.co.uk/push-to-progress-medical-check-and-sign-stoke-city-player-today/Austrian Bundesliga club Rapid are in a rush to finalise a medical and complete a deal for Stoke City’s Ryan Mmaee on Wednesday. The summer transfer window in Austria doesn’t close until Thursday night but they want to make sure they finalise the deal today, reports Kurier. That isn’t just so they can avoid the added stress of going through the paperwork for the Stoke City player on Thursday, but rather to make sure he’s registered for the UEFA Europa Conference League by Wednesday night. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 4, 2024 16:53:09 GMT
Walters made more league appearances for Stoke under Mark Hughes than Tony Pulis. His role nowadays isn’t linked to his playing career, or his former managers, in any way, shape or form. So it’s not normal thinking to imagine they might have had an influence?? You’re just making a pathetic attempt to criticise people thinking how people generally think. He spent a lot of his playing career playing for dour dinosaur managers and people who particularly don’t like dour dinosaur managers feel it may have influenced him. He’s as yet nothing to show an identity of his own. When he does it will either prove to be correct or not. If it isn’t I still won’t feel badly about thinking it. I’ll leave you to decide your own thoughts. So since Walters took the role: - we’ve signed more youngsters than I can ever remember us signing. - we’ve developed an attractive attacking style with players capable of versatility and having tons of technical ability. - we’ve continued to exploit the foreign market. - we’ve fielded the youngest side the club ever has (I think) Yeah, to be fair you’re right, he’s a Pulis clone. |
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Post by baconburger on Sept 4, 2024 17:14:29 GMT
So it’s not normal thinking to imagine they might have had an influence?? You’re just making a pathetic attempt to criticise people thinking how people generally think. He spent a lot of his playing career playing for dour dinosaur managers and people who particularly don’t like dour dinosaur managers feel it may have influenced him. He’s as yet nothing to show an identity of his own. When he does it will either prove to be correct or not. If it isn’t I still won’t feel badly about thinking it. I’ll leave you to decide your own thoughts. So since Walters took the role: - we’ve signed more youngsters than I can ever remember us signing. - we’ve developed an attractive attacking style with players capable of versatility and having tons of technical ability. - we’ve continued to exploit the foreign market. - we’ve fielded the youngest side the club ever has (I think) Yeah, to be fair you’re right, he’s a Pulis clone. I acknowledge those things but yeah still don't trust him, who knows whether I ever will. It really shouldn't be a problem for anyone. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 4, 2024 17:16:57 GMT
So since Walters took the role: - we’ve signed more youngsters than I can ever remember us signing. - we’ve developed an attractive attacking style with players capable of versatility and having tons of technical ability. - we’ve continued to exploit the foreign market. - we’ve fielded the youngest side the club ever has (I think) Yeah, to be fair you’re right, he’s a Pulis clone. I acknowledge those things but yeah still don't trust him, who knows whether I ever will. It really shouldn't be a problem for anyone. It just strikes me as a bit small minded tbh. You don’t have to like the bloke (though as a Stoke supporter I’m stumped as to why you’d hate him) but the evidence suggests his football philosophy is pretty far removed from that of Tony Pulis. |
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Post by baconburger on Sept 4, 2024 17:17:18 GMT
Has he actually gone on loan or not Not holding shirt up yet - but looks like they want to complete it today so he can play in Europe for them this season www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-leicester-transfer-tom-cannon-9530154Cannon has been handed the number 9 shirt at Stoke and is on standby to immediately replace Ryan Mmaee in the starting XI from a win at Plymouth last weekend, with Mmaee in Austria to complete a loan switch to Rapid Vienna. sportwitness.co.uk/push-to-progress-medical-check-and-sign-stoke-city-player-today/Austrian Bundesliga club Rapid are in a rush to finalise a medical and complete a deal for Stoke City’s Ryan Mmaee on Wednesday. The summer transfer window in Austria doesn’t close until Thursday night but they want to make sure they finalise the deal today, reports Kurier. That isn’t just so they can avoid the added stress of going through the paperwork for the Stoke City player on Thursday, but rather to make sure he’s registered for the UEFA Europa Conference League by Wednesday night. Hopefully he does enough there for them to sign him and it's not just temporary respite. |
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Post by spoton on Sept 4, 2024 17:44:46 GMT
Hopefully he does enough there for them to sign him and it's not just temporary respite. He's probably failed the medical for not running enough on the treadmill |
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Post by anchorman on Sept 4, 2024 17:52:19 GMT
Strange folk with very active imaginations who correlate Walters’ football philosophy with that of Tony Pulis just because he happened to play under him for a few years. Weird. OK then tell me what is more logical than his associations with Pulis and Dyche which covers the bulk of his professional career and what’s weird about surmising that he would have most likely developed his footballing philosophy during that period? It’s neither a fact or some weird contortion of the imagination, it’s just a consequence of employing someone with no track record. If he's half as successful at Stoke as his former manager was then we're in for fantastic times ahead. |
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Post by baconburger on Sept 4, 2024 18:42:10 GMT
OK then tell me what is more logical than his associations with Pulis and Dyche which covers the bulk of his professional career and what’s weird about surmising that he would have most likely developed his footballing philosophy during that period? It’s neither a fact or some weird contortion of the imagination, it’s just a consequence of employing someone with no track record. If he's half as successful at Stoke as his former manager was then we're in for fantastic times ahead. Yeah right 10 years it was a blast  |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Sept 4, 2024 18:51:28 GMT
That was with all the add-ons. It was widely reported as an initial £1.75m, with most of the rest only payable if we went up (yeah, right!) 5 goals! Why did I think he had scored more than that? Aother one to add to the long list of failed strikers we've paid millions for. There’s a player in him y’know….. |
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Post by stokiekm on Sept 4, 2024 19:00:34 GMT
If he's half as successful at Stoke as his former manager was then we're in for fantastic times ahead. Yeah right 10 years it was a blast If you're trying to say the premier league years weren't enjoyable then I have to say it. You are an idiot |
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Post by george2again on Sept 4, 2024 19:14:05 GMT
Not holding shirt up yet - but looks like they want to complete it today so he can play in Europe for them this season www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-leicester-transfer-tom-cannon-9530154Cannon has been handed the number 9 shirt at Stoke and is on standby to immediately replace Ryan Mmaee in the starting XI from a win at Plymouth last weekend, with Mmaee in Austria to complete a loan switch to Rapid Vienna. sportwitness.co.uk/push-to-progress-medical-check-and-sign-stoke-city-player-today/Austrian Bundesliga club Rapid are in a rush to finalise a medical and complete a deal for Stoke City’s Ryan Mmaee on Wednesday. The summer transfer window in Austria doesn’t close until Thursday night but they want to make sure they finalise the deal today, reports Kurier. That isn’t just so they can avoid the added stress of going through the paperwork for the Stoke City player on Thursday, but rather to make sure he’s registered for the UEFA Europa Conference League by Wednesday night. Hopefully he does enough there for them to sign him and it's not just temporary respite. Not sure that’s the case. Been a handful already, and manager and club willing to let him go says it all really. No way back even if he’s a disaster in Veinna. Be gone in the summer either way. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 4, 2024 19:52:24 GMT
Fuck me, I give up with this place. Give up then, but you read my post wrong before you get chirpy. Sorry it’s taken me so long to reply, I’ve been absolutely fuming over your response. I read your post absolutely correctly, I was just pointing out the way that it was written was ambiguous, hence the wink at the end. And then you have the absolute temerity to throw a sarcastic emoji at the end of your post, when it was in fact YOU who misunderstood my post. Like I say, fuming. |
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Post by kjpt140v on Sept 4, 2024 20:26:08 GMT
Watch Mmaee fly.
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Post by gaznandi on Sept 4, 2024 20:31:21 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 4, 2024 20:33:19 GMT
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Post by tqstokie on Sept 4, 2024 20:37:24 GMT
IMO he won't be missed but I wish him well. Never made enough effort for me.
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Post by delilahwhy on Sept 4, 2024 20:38:58 GMT
Out of all the players that have left, this is the one that disappoints me a bit.
I'm still convinced he's a very good footballer and could have contributed this season, with the new additions we've brought in.
I'd much rather him off the bench than Ennis, that's for sure.
But we move on.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Sept 4, 2024 20:39:05 GMT
Bye and good luck Ryan.
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Post by anchorman on Sept 4, 2024 20:40:04 GMT
If he's half as successful at Stoke as his former manager was then we're in for fantastic times ahead. Yeah right 10 years it was a blast Yes it certainly was. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 4, 2024 20:40:51 GMT
Out of all the players that have left, this is the one that disappoints me a bit. I'm still convinced he's a very good footballer and could have contributed this season, with the new additions we've brought in. I'd much rather him off the bench than Ennis, that's for sure. But we move on. Its a shame as I agree there's a good player in there if he can sort his attitude out. That's the issue I think 🤔 |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 4, 2024 20:42:18 GMT
If you could transplant the footballing ability of Mmaee and the effort of Ennis into a single striker you’d end up with a very good footballer.
Shame as individuals they’re absolute gammon.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 4, 2024 20:44:25 GMT
So it’s not normal thinking to imagine they might have had an influence?? You’re just making a pathetic attempt to criticise people thinking how people generally think. He spent a lot of his playing career playing for dour dinosaur managers and people who particularly don’t like dour dinosaur managers feel it may have influenced him. He’s as yet nothing to show an identity of his own. When he does it will either prove to be correct or not. If it isn’t I still won’t feel badly about thinking it. I’ll leave you to decide your own thoughts. So since Walters took the role: - we’ve signed more youngsters than I can ever remember us signing. - we’ve developed an attractive attacking style with players capable of versatility and having tons of technical ability. - we’ve continued to exploit the foreign market. - we’ve fielded the youngest side the club ever has (I think) Yeah, to be fair you’re right, he’s a Pulis clone. Almost Orwellian isn't it? 😁 'The party ordered to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears...' |
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