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Post by Han Solo on Aug 28, 2023 20:25:21 GMT
He got zero protection from the most incompetent ref I've seen for a good while He was a definate homer can’t believe we had all them bookings and they had one.
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Post by Bagwash on Aug 28, 2023 20:43:01 GMT
Hopefully just until after the break then, he was injured after that tackle on about 80 minutes. The fact that he kept going pretty well and even had that shot that was saved in added time hopefully means it’s not too bad. Thought it was a very heavy tackle at the time. He got a good whack in the first half down the left hand side which from afar looked like at least a booking for the Millwall player.....he got nothing.
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Post by davethebass on Aug 28, 2023 21:01:24 GMT
We need a couple of tough guys to protect players like Vidigal. Imagine trying to kick Bojan if Whelan, Walters, Huth and Shawcross were playing. Saw Whelan Walters Huth and Shawcross supporting Crosby Stills Nash and Young in the early 70s
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 28, 2023 21:05:44 GMT
We need a couple of tough guys to protect players like Vidigal. Imagine trying to kick Bojan if Whelan, Walters, Huth and Shawcross were playing. Saw Whelan Walters Huth and Shawcross supporting Crosby Stills Nash and Young in the early 70s They did an excellent cover of Another One Bites The Dust 😉
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Post by glpotter on Aug 29, 2023 17:15:55 GMT
Anyone know how long he’s out for ?
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Post by Silkystoke on Aug 29, 2023 17:18:14 GMT
He’ll miss tonight and Saturday
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Post by GrahamHyde on Aug 29, 2023 17:19:58 GMT
They clobbered him.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 29, 2023 17:24:53 GMT
October?..
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 29, 2023 18:08:01 GMT
He's not going to get any protection in this League so he will need to work out a way of dealing with it quickly, and learn how to skip past the butchers.
Maybe have a look at some Maradona videos from when he played in Serie A and La Liga!
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Post by brutus on Aug 29, 2023 22:38:24 GMT
No mention of his injury? The radio stoke interview or the club interview fuckall was mentioned 🤨
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 29, 2023 22:40:59 GMT
As I just put on the Match thread he told my mate he should be back after the international break
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2023 22:10:52 GMT
Massively missed him today , his skill , his energy and his movement
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Post by Han Solo on Sept 2, 2023 22:14:59 GMT
Massively missed him today , his skill , his energy and his movement Both he and to a lesser extent Ryan were missed today. The good thing about Vidigal is he doesn’t stop running and will always keep defenders on the backfoot. Something that just didn’t happen today.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 2, 2023 22:20:28 GMT
Massively missed him today , his skill , his energy and his movement Both he and to a lesser extent Ryan were missed today. The good thing about Vidigal is he doesn’t stop running and will always keep defenders on the backfoot. Something that just didn’t happen today. He’s going to be a while yet
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Post by metalhead on Sept 2, 2023 22:22:03 GMT
Massively missed him today , his skill , his energy and his movement Both he and to a lesser extent Ryan were missed today. The good thing about Vidigal is he doesn’t stop running and will always keep defenders on the backfoot. Something that just didn’t happen today. We did miss him but to say we didn't put their defence on the back foot is just wrong. We did attack. We made chances. Personally, the only concern I have from today is Wesley. He's a lump. But he ain't a goal scorer. I'm not entirely convinced he's even a footballer. Everyone else left with enough credit for me.
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Post by Han Solo on Sept 2, 2023 22:36:14 GMT
Both he and to a lesser extent Ryan were missed today. The good thing about Vidigal is he doesn’t stop running and will always keep defenders on the backfoot. Something that just didn’t happen today. We did miss him but to say we didn't put their defence on the back foot is just wrong. We did attack. We made chances. Personally, the only concern I have from today is Wesley. He's a lump. But he ain't a goal scorer. I'm not entirely convinced he's even a footballer. Everyone else left with enough credit for me. We weren’t dreadful and they defended well but I genuinly can’t remember much being created from open play other than Campbells shot in the second half and the cross across the box at the start of the first half. Looking at the stats we had one shot on target all game. It felt like every time we got near there box we either hit a cross that was either blocked or went nowhere or passed it around without really ever threatening. Put Vidigal in there and he’d either create something for himself or put pressure on the defence a bit like their sub did.
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Post by Han Solo on Sept 2, 2023 22:37:04 GMT
Both he and to a lesser extent Ryan were missed today. The good thing about Vidigal is he doesn’t stop running and will always keep defenders on the backfoot. Something that just didn’t happen today. He’s going to be a while yet What you heard then Benji? Didn’t think his injury was that bad.
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Post by metalhead on Sept 2, 2023 22:43:39 GMT
We did miss him but to say we didn't put their defence on the back foot is just wrong. We did attack. We made chances. Personally, the only concern I have from today is Wesley. He's a lump. But he ain't a goal scorer. I'm not entirely convinced he's even a footballer. Everyone else left with enough credit for me. We weren’t dreadful and they defended well but I genuinly can’t remember much being created from open play other than Campbells shot in the second half and the cross across the box at the start of the first half. Looking at the stats we had one shot on target all game. It felt like every time we got near there box we either hit a cross that was either blocked or went nowhere or passed it around without really ever threatening. Put Vidigal in there and he’d either create something for himself or put pressure on the defence a bit like their sub did. We had a wonderful chance that Wesley didn't seem to get close to. I'm not ready to bash anyone but yeah, Wesley looked absolutely shite. I agree. Vidigal adds something else.
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Post by Han Solo on Sept 2, 2023 22:57:06 GMT
We weren’t dreadful and they defended well but I genuinly can’t remember much being created from open play other than Campbells shot in the second half and the cross across the box at the start of the first half. Looking at the stats we had one shot on target all game. It felt like every time we got near there box we either hit a cross that was either blocked or went nowhere or passed it around without really ever threatening. Put Vidigal in there and he’d either create something for himself or put pressure on the defence a bit like their sub did. We had a wonderful chance that Wesley didn't seem to get close to. I'm not ready to bash anyone but yeah, Wesley looked absolutely shite. I agree. Vidigal adds something else. Wesley’s a strange one. Thought he held the ball up well when it was played to him with his back to goal but from what I’ve seen I don’t think we can hang our hats on him getting many goals. He might work in certain games but I don’t see him as being part of our strongest side. Today the biggest issue was lack of creativity whether it was from out wide or through the middle. They defended well but we made it too easy for them by our slow ponderous build up. Neal had it spot on when he said that Bae and Gooch added some much needed urgency when they came on. The CM fell short today because the balance was all wrong mainly because Laurent isn’t creative enough for the role he was asked to play. It should have been Burger with Pearson / Laurent and either Bae or Johnson advanced. The CM we had was way too predictable and slow.
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Post by pushon on Sept 2, 2023 23:13:26 GMT
Both he and to a lesser extent Ryan were missed today. The good thing about Vidigal is he doesn’t stop running and will always keep defenders on the backfoot. Something that just didn’t happen today. We did miss him but to say we didn't put their defence on the back foot is just wrong. We did attack. We made chances. Personally, the only concern I have from today is Wesley. He's a lump. But he ain't a goal scorer. I'm not entirely convinced he's even a footballer. Everyone else left with enough credit for me. Agreed he's a lump but he's a willing one. Today he was shamefully under-supported. For most of the game their big defenders just swamped him. He had little,if any, support from Campbell or Laurent. He did stick at the job though, he doesn’t look like a goalscorer, but can hold onto the ball well. It doesn't look as though Campbell or Laurent have the nous to make the most of his hold-up play. If we continue with his role then both Campbell and Laurent need replacing.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 2, 2023 23:48:34 GMT
We weren’t dreadful and they defended well but I genuinly can’t remember much being created from open play other than Campbells shot in the second half and the cross across the box at the start of the first half. Looking at the stats we had one shot on target all game. It felt like every time we got near there box we either hit a cross that was either blocked or went nowhere or passed it around without really ever threatening. Put Vidigal in there and he’d either create something for himself or put pressure on the defence a bit like their sub did. We had a wonderful chance that Wesley didn't seem to get close to. I'm not ready to bash anyone but yeah, Wesley looked absolutely shite. I agree. Vidigal adds something else. I thought Wesley held a lot of the balls played up to him today. For me, certainly wasn't shite
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 3, 2023 2:51:42 GMT
We had a wonderful chance that Wesley didn't seem to get close to. I'm not ready to bash anyone but yeah, Wesley looked absolutely shite. I agree. Vidigal adds something else. I thought Wesley held a lot of the balls played up to him today. For me, certainly wasn't shite Definitely. It does stick to him and he buys time for other players to get up around him. It’s not eye-catching or glamorous but it’s an element we've been missing for a long while.
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Post by metalhead on Sept 3, 2023 7:45:18 GMT
We had a wonderful chance that Wesley didn't seem to get close to. I'm not ready to bash anyone but yeah, Wesley looked absolutely shite. I agree. Vidigal adds something else. I thought Wesley held a lot of the balls played up to him today. For me, certainly wasn't shite Opinions eh? For me, he needed to take that chance.
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Post by Bojangles on Sept 3, 2023 7:58:50 GMT
Missed vidigal yesterday.
Wesley's not going get you loads of goals but he can hold the ball up. The problem is Campbell and leris were playing to wide of him. You need to play him with someone alongside.
At least vidigal will look to get his head down and run at goal taking players on. We lacked that yesterday.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 3, 2023 8:03:26 GMT
Missed vidigal yesterday. Wesley's not going get you loads of goals but he can hold the ball up. The problem is Campbell and leris were playing to wide of him. You need to play him with someone alongside. At least vidigal will look to get his head down and run at goal taking players on. We lacked that yesterday. Until Bae went more central. Then we actually looked a threat. All too late though.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 3, 2023 8:09:55 GMT
We had a wonderful chance that Wesley didn't seem to get close to. I'm not ready to bash anyone but yeah, Wesley looked absolutely shite. I agree. Vidigal adds something else. I thought Wesley held a lot of the balls played up to him today. For me, certainly wasn't shite He is a decent hold up man and a lot did stick (apart from the one that bounced off him that lead directly to the penalty) but the trouble is playing him up top on his own means having held the ball up and laid it off he’s not mobile enough to get in the box to get on the end of any of the crosses that subsequently come in. Gooch put some absolute peaches into the box in the last half hour yesterday and Wesley was nowhere near a single one of them. Wes needs to be partnered with a more mobile striker or used as an impact sub late in the game.
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Post by desman2 on Sept 3, 2023 8:19:27 GMT
I think that when you play against a team that plays as defensive as Preston did then a target man is wasted. He was never going to get anywhere with getting crowded out every time. Both Videgal and Ryan can drag defenders all over the place and leave space to build, but having one guy roughly in the same place all the time doesn't seem effective. I was quite pleased with our overall play but playing that system didn't seem to work. Just an opinion mind.
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Post by Fred Merger on Sept 3, 2023 8:30:02 GMT
Does anyone know how long Vidigal is out for?
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 3, 2023 8:38:34 GMT
Wes was badly let down by our powder puffs aka Campbell and Laurent who did nothing to support him. Give him players who can help him rather than ambling around the pitch and he will do more.
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Post by stokefanone on Sept 3, 2023 10:11:09 GMT
Missed vidigal yesterday, no one else in the squad has his predatory instinct. Wesley was strong today, held the ball up well, had we had vidigal and mmaee, instead of Campbell and Leris( not a striker) would not have lost yesterday.
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