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Post by thebet365 on Aug 21, 2023 12:36:56 GMT
Vidigal looks like a million dollars, and his finishing technique is superb, but am I the only one thinking he looked offside and we got lucky? I don't think Wesley touched it, he wasn't offside from the initial cross.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2023 12:40:58 GMT
Vidigal looks like a million dollars, and his finishing technique is superb, but am I the only one thinking he looked offside and we got lucky? Nowhere near offside, when the ball was pinged in. If Wesley touched it on, then maybe. I don't think he did.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 21, 2023 12:41:17 GMT
It will be interesting to see where things stand with him by the end of the season. He’s been excellent in front of goal but hasn’t really done much else. His habit of being able to score when being out of the game for a long time is awesome but I wonder how the crowd will feel about him when the goals inevitably dry up. He’s decent off the ball and had his full back on toast in the Rotherham game. I’m not sure there’s any truth in any of that and just needlessly negative. Seems a needlessly pointless thing to say after 3 games too. He might stop scoring but start creating instead, so how does anyone decide that once the goals dry up he'll add nothing?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2023 12:45:39 GMT
There seems to be some expectation that our forwards should be ripping teams to shreds, week-in-week-out.
It doesn't happen that way. Vidigal's looked more threatening than any of the opposing forwards we've come up against, so far.
Mmaee seems to have had a little bad press, but I think he's just finding his feet, still.
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Post by stokiemac on Aug 21, 2023 12:48:43 GMT
[/quote] I think he means at this rate. As he’s scored a goal a game so 20 isn’t beyond his reach.
I’m sure as a forward he is aiming for 20 plus himself.
Odds on him being top scorer in the league? 🤔😂[/quote]
20/1 I think that's come in ALOT from the start of the season and is now the same as Tella at Saints who looks a future Premier League player so people are starting to notice
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 21, 2023 12:50:13 GMT
There seems to be some expectation that our forwards should be ripping teams to shreds, week-in-week-out. It doesn't happen that way. Vidigal's looked more threatening than any of the opposing forwards we've come up against, so far. Mmaee seems to have had a little bad press, but I think he's just finding his feet, still. Ipswich aside, we've done really well overall for a not-so-easy start to the season. If this is how we play whilst everybody is still settling in, then it's really promising. Can't believe there's much negativity towards anybody at the moment.
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Post by idle on Aug 21, 2023 12:53:26 GMT
Vidigal looks like a million dollars, and his finishing technique is superb, but am I the only one thinking he looked offside and we got lucky? I don't think Wesley touched it, he wasn't offside from the initial cross. If that was the case I agree. I was sure Wes flicked it on though. And the commentator even says "a lovely little flick-on" in the highlights... Doesn't matter in the end, it was still a great finish.
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Post by lordb on Aug 21, 2023 12:53:52 GMT
I don't think Wesley touched it, he wasn't offside from the initial cross. If that was the case I agree. I was sure Wes flicked it on though. And the commentator even says "a lovely little flick-on" in the highlights... Doesn't matter in the end, it was still a great finish. Wes didn't touch it
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Post by skip on Aug 21, 2023 23:05:37 GMT
AN ..,“He said to me at half time just before we went out, ‘Don't worry, I'm going to score,’ and then he does.” I think I love him.
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 22, 2023 0:15:25 GMT
If that was the case I agree. I was sure Wes flicked it on though. And the commentator even says "a lovely little flick-on" in the highlights... Doesn't matter in the end, it was still a great finish. Wes didn't touch it He didn’t, and he also occupied the defender enough to prevent him from getting a leg on it too. It was an intelligent leave just as good as a flick-on imo - well better, considering Vidi might have been offside from a flick
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Post by chrispk on Aug 22, 2023 1:06:33 GMT
AN ..,“He said to me at half time just before we went out, ‘Don't worry, I'm going to score,’ and then he does.” I think I love him. That’s the attitude Fuller used to give Pulis. That’s good enough for me ⭐️👍🏻
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Post by independent on Aug 22, 2023 1:43:38 GMT
All very strange. This 25yr. old is making goalscoring look as easy as having a piss. Yet he never stays anywhere and still a had year left on his contract when we signed him for an undisclosed fee. If he is half as prolific as he looks,why do clubs keep letting him go? Mustn't look a gift horse in the mouth, but still very odd.
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 22, 2023 2:55:01 GMT
All very strange. This 25yr. old is making goalscoring look as easy as having a piss. Yet he never stays anywhere and still a had year left on his contract when we signed him for an undisclosed fee. If he is half as prolific as he looks,why do clubs keep letting him go? Mustn't look a gift horse in the mouth, but still very odd. Not sure that’s quite fair. He had two loans at 21 and 22, then two years at Marítimo and then to us at 24 - and without wanting to disrespect a middling Portuguese club, once the Coates wage schlong was offered onto the negotiating table there wasn’t going to be much they were ever going to do about it. I don’t think there’s any indication of anything strange about his development.
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Post by idle on Aug 22, 2023 6:27:13 GMT
All very strange. This 25yr. old is making goalscoring look as easy as having a piss. Yet he never stays anywhere and still a had year left on his contract when we signed him for an undisclosed fee. If he is half as prolific as he looks,why do clubs keep letting him go? Mustn't look a gift horse in the mouth, but still very odd. He may fit the english style of football better than the portuguese. He looks very direct and "counter-attacky", something which is nearly frowned upon on the Iberian peninsula. They mostly play possession based short passing and low tempo.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 22, 2023 7:16:22 GMT
All very strange. This 25yr. old is making goalscoring look as easy as having a piss. Yet he never stays anywhere and still a had year left on his contract when we signed him for an undisclosed fee. If he is half as prolific as he looks,why do clubs keep letting him go? Mustn't look a gift horse in the mouth, but still very odd. N’Golo Kante was bumming around the French second division when Leicester picked him up. Look how that one turned out.
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Post by rowbeartoe on Aug 22, 2023 7:22:16 GMT
It is almost as if some players take longer to come into their prime than others and find their rhythm at some clubs more than others
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 22, 2023 7:39:16 GMT
It is almost as if some players take longer to come into their prime than others and find their rhythm at some clubs more than others Definitely the case. Many "boy wonders" don't make it as professional footballers and some others don't really develop their full potential until well into the second half of their career. Most though advance season by season till their mid 20s. Crouch said it took him season at each level before he was good enough to move up to the next level then struggled for a season against better defenders till he developed further. There is also the "best fit" issue. Some players pay well in some circumstances alongside some team mates and others just don't "fit in" to the side. Vidigal is possibly benefiting play who he is playing with and finding space. The tip past a defender that Mmaee did past a defender, then had his shot blocked by the GK created the opening for Vidigal to score against Rotherham. What a joy it is to see a player taking his chances.
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 22, 2023 7:55:12 GMT
Only 15? At the present rate he should top 20 this season (hopefully) I disagree that he 'should' get 20. Getting 20 isn't an easy thing to do, we haven't had a player do it for 23 years. 15 would be an amazing season, and the best 500k we have spent in years. I hope he does get 20 obviously. Let’s calm down. Have we had a ‘wide’ player get more then 15? Arnie was maybe the last who got close, before that maybe Cresswell or Lawrence? So 12 years. And the last player to get 20+ is 23 years ago as you’ve said. If he gets 10 in his first season in the league that will be class frankly. If he’s on 10 by Christmas let aim for 15 etc. no point putting these massive targets and expectations on him.
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 22, 2023 7:59:09 GMT
It is almost as if some players take longer to come into their prime than others and find their rhythm at some clubs more than others Definitely the case. Many "boy wonders" don't make it as professional footballers and some others don't really develop their full potential until well into the second half of their career. Most though advance season by season till their mid 20s. Crouch said it took him season at each level before he was good enough to move up to the next level then struggled for a season against better defenders till he developed further. There is also the "best fit" issue. Some players pay well in some circumstances alongside some team mates and others just don't "fit in" to the side. Vidigal is possibly benefiting play who he is playing with and finding space. The tip past a defender that Mmaee did past a defender, then had his shot blocked by the GK created the opening for Vidigal to score against Rotherham. What a joy it is to see a player taking his chances. Vardy is the biggest example of this, and it’s as daft as some managers rate players higher then others. I think you can tell AN really rates Vidigal and is almost setting the team up to get the best out of him and get him into scoring positions (hence playing him in a free role behind Wes centrally). All of this contributes to better performances from Vidigal as well as him continuing to develop.
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Post by paulkoz on Aug 22, 2023 17:49:06 GMT
Reading some of the older comments on this thread gave me a laugh or two. In terms of writing a player off before he’s kicked a ball? Exactly that,
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Post by thepottypotter on Aug 22, 2023 18:09:48 GMT
Vidigal looks like a million dollars, and his finishing technique is superb, but am I the only one thinking he looked offside and we got lucky? Million dollars way too little for him. He looked much better than that!
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Post by idle on Aug 22, 2023 20:06:32 GMT
Vidigal looks like a million dollars, and his finishing technique is superb, but am I the only one thinking he looked offside and we got lucky? Million dollars way too little for him. He looked much better than that! true, I'm showing my age!
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Post by bertiestan on Aug 22, 2023 21:00:10 GMT
In Vidigals interview after the match you can hear Neil shout "what a player" it's obvious Neil loves him.
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 22, 2023 22:30:34 GMT
He’s decent off the ball and had his full back on toast in the Rotherham game. I’m not sure there’s any truth in any of that and just needlessly negative. Seems a needlessly pointless thing to say after 3 games too. He might stop scoring but start creating instead, so how does anyone decide that once the goals dry up he'll add nothing? His fantastic goals have got us spaffing all over the place but TBF Vs both Ipswich and Watford our forwards didn't create much. There could be a dry spell, and history suggests some fans could turn on him then. I think he's shown enough good stuff that we should def persevere with him and support him through a dry spell 👍
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 23, 2023 8:13:06 GMT
I still think the best chant would be to 'Let's get physical...' as a few have said Andre Vidigal, Vidigal Andre Vidigaaaaal, Andre Vidigal, He came from Portugal to Stoke, The fact he cost just half a million pounds is a joke* Andre Vidigaaal *not sure this line scans fully so may need some work 😂 It would be good to sing something no one else does. Every fucker sings KC and the Sunshine Band
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 23, 2023 8:19:23 GMT
Vidigal looks like a million dollars, and his finishing technique is superb, but am I the only one thinking he looked offside and we got lucky? Nowhere near offside, when the ball was pinged in. If Wesley touched it on, then maybe. I don't think he did. Good decision by Wesley not to touch it but just lean on the centre half😉😉
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Post by Roy Cropper on Aug 23, 2023 8:39:35 GMT
All very strange. This 25yr. old is making goalscoring look as easy as having a piss. Yet he never stays anywhere and still a had year left on his contract when we signed him for an undisclosed fee. If he is half as prolific as he looks,why do clubs keep letting him go? Mustn't look a gift horse in the mouth, but still very odd. N’Golo Kante was bumming around the French second division when Leicester picked him up. Look how that one turned out. And the same age when they won the league too. 👀
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Post by dobber on Aug 24, 2023 19:17:08 GMT
I still think the best chant would be to 'Let's get physical...' as a few have said Andre Vidigal, Vidigal Andre Vidigaaaaal, Andre Vidigal, He came from Portugal to Stoke, The fact he cost just half a million pounds is a joke* Andre Vidigaaal *not sure this line scans fully so may need some work 😂 It would be good to sing something no one else does. Every fucker sings KC and the Sunshine Band Ha ha agree...plus we use it for Sidibe.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2023 17:20:35 GMT
Was at the match and boy did he get battered today Shirt pulled, barged , pushed in the back , kicked , every time he went near the ball .
Millwall battered him and still he kept coming back for more.
And very nearly got us a goal in stoppage time.
It doesn't get any more physical than away to Millwall and he was excellent.
He didn't win every physical challenge and was dispossessed a few times but just kept going and looked more like scoring than anyone else in a stoke shirt .
Did very well in very tough circumstances today
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 26, 2023 17:22:44 GMT
I ended up getting the Millwall commentary on stream and the pair of inbred dullards on there who kept saying Vidigal couldn’t hack the physical side of the game after being assaulted all match nearly made me rip my TV off the wall.
Should have buried that chance but some of his play was class, we need to be playing to his strengths and I hope to fuck that’s the last we ever see of a five at the back.
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