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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 18:37:49 GMT
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Post by gawa on Jul 31, 2024 18:37:49 GMT
Were you? Did you think you’d signed up to play marbles? Were you on the sofa cheer leading in your camo shorts? You think sending British troops to follow the US into battle to prop up a clearly mad Isreali govt is a good idea? The Isreali's have fired at Lebanon and now Iran against western advice. They are on their own for me. Let's see who else is mad enough to march behind them. Think BaconBurger is going to be on the front line by the sounds of things. Or is he all talk no action
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 18:58:06 GMT
Post by baconburger on Jul 31, 2024 18:58:06 GMT
Israeli is a terrorist, apartheid state. It’s leaders are guilty of war crimes. The Israeli state is committing genocide. Our government’s continued support of Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine and failure to condemn the war criminals inside the Israeli government is a matter of national shame. Siege mentality. I would have though Stokies would be into it.
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 19:03:28 GMT
Post by baconburger on Jul 31, 2024 19:03:28 GMT
Were you on the sofa cheer leading in your camo shorts? You think sending British troops to follow the US into battle to prop up a clearly mad Isreali govt is a good idea? The Isreali's have fired at Lebanon and now Iran against western advice. They are on their own for me. Let's see who else is mad enough to march behind them. Think BaconBurger is going to be on the front line by the sounds of things. Or is he all talk no action Too old fella. Maybe you sympathise. Same shit different neck of the woods? Left to me there wouldn't be a frontline. I'd ask you to behave and leave you in a smoking hole in the ground if you didn't. No boots on the ground.
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 19:06:54 GMT
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Post by musik on Jul 31, 2024 19:06:54 GMT
According to Swe text tv news just now Ismail Haniya, Hama's highest political leader, has been killed during an aircraft raid above Teheran, Iran.
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Post by gawa on Jul 31, 2024 19:20:17 GMT
Think BaconBurger is going to be on the front line by the sounds of things. Or is he all talk no action Too old fella. Maybe you sympathise. Same shit different neck of the woods? Left to me there wouldn't be a frontline. I'd ask you to behave and leave you in a smoking hole in the ground if you didn't. No boots on the ground. We'd be here all night if I got into my views. Oppression breeds terrorism. I don't think British lives should be lost over Israels actions. Israel is no ally of mine. Where were Israel in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Falklands and many other wars? Nowhere to be seen.
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 19:26:25 GMT
Post by baconburger on Jul 31, 2024 19:26:25 GMT
Too old fella. Maybe you sympathise. Same shit different neck of the woods? Left to me there wouldn't be a frontline. I'd ask you to behave and leave you in a smoking hole in the ground if you didn't. No boots on the ground. We'd be here all night if I got into my views. Oppression breeds terrorism. I don't think British lives should be lost over Israels actions. Israel is no ally of mine. Where were Israel in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Falklands and many other wars? Nowhere to be seen. Tolerance and complicity within a general population enables terrorism. There are consequences. Sound familiar?
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Post by gawa on Jul 31, 2024 19:29:40 GMT
We'd be here all night if I got into my views. Oppression breeds terrorism. I don't think British lives should be lost over Israels actions. Israel is no ally of mine. Where were Israel in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Falklands and many other wars? Nowhere to be seen. Tolerance and complicity within a general population enables terrorism. There are consequences. Sound familiar? Not at all. Irish catholics were oppressed by the British state and did many peaceful protests and demonstrations where they were the victims of state brutality. That is what breed terrorism. Why do you think it started? Doesn't mean I like or support the IRA. But I can recognise that the British state certainly contributed to the formation of their terrorist activities through their treatment of people. I say this as a protestant from a loyalist estate with alot of paramilitary activity. So I've certainly not been brainwashed growing up- if anything I was brainwashed to hate catholics. I now have many catholic friends and colleagues.
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 19:51:03 GMT
Post by baconburger on Jul 31, 2024 19:51:03 GMT
Tolerance and complicity within a general population enables terrorism. There are consequences. Sound familiar? Not at all. Irish catholics were oppressed by the British state and did many peaceful protests and demonstrations where they were the victims of state brutality. That is what breed terrorism. Why do you think it started? Doesn't mean I like or support the IRA. But I can recognise that the British state certainly contributed to the formation of their terrorist activities through their treatment of people. I say this as a protestant from a loyalist estate with alot of paramilitary activity. So I've certainly not been brainwashed growing up- if anything I was brainwashed to hate catholics. I now have many catholic friends and colleagues. Why it started isn't really the point is it. There can be isolated terrorist incidents anywhere. It only becomes a way of life where the general population tolerate it and are therefore complicit. The children are the only innocent victims and they're the victims of their parents and neighbours.
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 20:16:36 GMT
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 31, 2024 20:16:36 GMT
Not at all. Irish catholics were oppressed by the British state and did many peaceful protests and demonstrations where they were the victims of state brutality. That is what breed terrorism. Why do you think it started? Doesn't mean I like or support the IRA. But I can recognise that the British state certainly contributed to the formation of their terrorist activities through their treatment of people. I say this as a protestant from a loyalist estate with alot of paramilitary activity. So I've certainly not been brainwashed growing up- if anything I was brainwashed to hate catholics. I now have many catholic friends and colleagues. Why it started isn't really the point is it. There can be isolated terrorist incidents anywhere. It only becomes a way of life where the general population tolerate it and are therefore complicit. The children are the only innocent victims and they're the victims of their parents and neighbours. Terrorism has become a way of life for many Palestinians. Palestinians committed to peaceful ways of finding a better life have been crushed by the apartheid system that denies them equality. In the occupied West Bank they are repeatedly forced to move from they land they legally own. Faced with oppression and subjugation some see violence as their only option and move into a terrorist way of life. Terrorism has become a way of life for Israelis. They tolerate the terrorist actions of their government, as does our own government. Terrorism breeds terrorists.
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 20:30:49 GMT
Post by baconburger on Jul 31, 2024 20:30:49 GMT
Why it started isn't really the point is it. There can be isolated terrorist incidents anywhere. It only becomes a way of life where the general population tolerate it and are therefore complicit. The children are the only innocent victims and they're the victims of their parents and neighbours. Terrorism has become a way of life for many Palestinians. Palestinians committed to peaceful ways of finding a better life have been crushed by the apartheid system that denies them equality. In the occupied West Bank they are repeatedly forced to move from they land they legally own. Faced with oppression and subjugation some see violence as their only option and move into a terrorist way of life. Terrorism has become a way of life for Israelis. They tolerate the terrorist actions of their government, as does our own government. Terrorism breeds terrorists. So your excuse for them launching rockets, murdering and kidnapping is property dispute. Hope it doesn't catch on here.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 31, 2024 20:43:54 GMT
Terrorism has become a way of life for many Palestinians. Palestinians committed to peaceful ways of finding a better life have been crushed by the apartheid system that denies them equality. In the occupied West Bank they are repeatedly forced to move from they land they legally own. Faced with oppression and subjugation some see violence as their only option and move into a terrorist way of life. Terrorism has become a way of life for Israelis. They tolerate the terrorist actions of their government, as does our own government. Terrorism breeds terrorists. So your excuse for them launching rockets, murdering and kidnapping is property dispute. Hope it doesn't catch on here. So if me and my mates rucked up at your house tonight with guns and with the support of the police, threw you and your family out of your house and told you that you don't live here anymore, you need to fuck off, would you just accept it? And when I realised at just how weak you were at defending your property, I phoned my other mates and they all piled down with guns too and booted all your neighbours out of their houses as well and the whole lot of you ended up on the streets, with absolutely no recourse to the authorities or the police ... What would you do, just shrug your shoulders in acceptance that you've just been unlucky and trudge off to Wales and start a commune? Or would you do something else?
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 20:49:05 GMT
Post by baconburger on Jul 31, 2024 20:49:05 GMT
So your excuse for them launching rockets, murdering and kidnapping is property dispute. Hope it doesn't catch on here. So if me and my mates rucked up at your house tonight with guns and with the support of the police, threw you and your family out of your house and told you that you don't live here anymore, you need to fuck off, would you just accept it? And when I realised at just how weak you were at defending your property, I phoned my other mates and they all piled down too and booted all your neighbours out of their houses as well and the whole lot of you ended up on the streets, with absolutely no recourse to the authorities or the police ... What would you do, just shrug your shoulders in acceptance that that you've just been unlucky and trudge off to Wales and start a commune? Or would you do something else? Might think of at least consulting a lawyer before I murdered anyone but at the end of the day that isn't really the reason they do these things is it?? I bet if they stopped doing that Iran would stop sending them drones, rockets and weapons and they'd gather all of those they have already together and melt them down to make shovels.
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 20:50:21 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 31, 2024 20:50:21 GMT
So if me and my mates rucked up at your house tonight with guns and with the support of the police, threw you and your family out of your house and told you that you don't live here anymore, you need to fuck off, would you just accept it? And when I realised at just how weak you were at defending your property, I phoned my other mates and they all piled down too and booted all your neighbours out of their houses as well and the whole lot of you ended up on the streets, with absolutely no recourse to the authorities or the police ... What would you do, just shrug your shoulders in acceptance that that you've just been unlucky and trudge off to Wales and start a commune? Or would you do something else? Might think of at least consulting a lawyer before I murdered anyone but at the end of the day that isn't really the reason they do these things is it?? Consult a lawyer? What the fuck is a lawyer going to do?
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 20:55:47 GMT
Post by baconburger on Jul 31, 2024 20:55:47 GMT
Might think of at least consulting a lawyer before I murdered anyone but at the end of the day that isn't really the reason they do these things is it?? Consult a lawyer? What the fuck is a lawyer going to do? Establish my property rights in law?
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 21:01:39 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 31, 2024 21:01:39 GMT
Consult a lawyer? What the fuck is a lawyer going to do? Establish my property rights in law? You have absolutely zero understanding of what's taking place in the West Bank have you? Israel is an Apartheid State, those people being booted out of their homes at gun point don't have 'property rights in law'.
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 21:02:51 GMT
Post by baconburger on Jul 31, 2024 21:02:51 GMT
Establish my property rights in law? You have absolutely zero understanding of what's taking place in the West Bank have you? Israel is an Apartheid State, those people being booted out of their homes at gun point don't have 'property rights in law'. Should have got on the land registry.
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 21:03:45 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Jul 31, 2024 21:03:45 GMT
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 21:07:22 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 31, 2024 21:07:22 GMT
You have absolutely zero understanding of what's taking place in the West Bank have you? Israel is an Apartheid State, those people being booted out of their homes at gun point don't have 'property rights in law'. Should have got on the land registry. Do you want to be taken seriously with your argument, or just look like a bit of a chump?
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 21:17:58 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Jul 31, 2024 21:17:58 GMT
Should have got on the land registry. Do you want to be taken seriously with your argument, or just look like a bit of a chump? I think he's making a joke... Albeit not a very funny one.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 31, 2024 21:23:17 GMT
Too old fella. Maybe you sympathise. Same shit different neck of the woods? Left to me there wouldn't be a frontline. I'd ask you to behave and leave you in a smoking hole in the ground if you didn't. No boots on the ground. We'd be here all night if I got into my views. Oppression breeds terrorism. I don't think British lives should be lost over Israels actions. Israel is no ally of mine. Where were Israel in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Falklands and many other wars? Nowhere to be seen. Israel were quite active in Falklands War providing Argentina,via Peru, air-to-air missiles, missile radar alert systems, and large capacity fuel tanks for the Argentine Skyhawk aircraft, giving them extra defensive capability and air time over the Falkland Islands, during the conflict.
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 21:30:31 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 31, 2024 21:30:31 GMT
Do you want to be taken seriously with your argument, or just look like a bit of a chump? I think he's making a joke... Albeit not a very funny one. Yes I know ... when he was confronted with an argument he had no answer to, that was the best he could come up with.
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Israel
Jul 31, 2024 21:45:08 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Jul 31, 2024 21:45:08 GMT
I think he's making a joke... Albeit not a very funny one. Yes I know ... when he was confronted with an argument he had no answer to, that was the best he could come up with. Because you’re over simplifying the whole Arab/Israeli issue to something caused by illegal West Bank settlements and it just isn’t.
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Jul 31, 2024 21:50:29 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 31, 2024 21:50:29 GMT
Yes I know ... when he was confronted with an argument he had no answer to, that was the best he could come up with. Because you’re over simplifying the whole Arab/Israeli issue to something caused by illegal West Bank settlements and it just isn’t. Don't be daft. We were specifically debating illegal settlements in the West Bank and then you decided to give up. If you genuinely want to debate the 'whole Arab/Israeli issue' fire away, I'll debate you all night ...
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Israel
Aug 1, 2024 7:51:29 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 1, 2024 7:51:29 GMT
Because you’re over simplifying the whole Arab/Israeli issue to something caused by illegal West Bank settlements and it just isn’t. Don't be daft. We were specifically debating illegal settlements in the West Bank and then you decided to give up. If you genuinely want to debate the 'whole Arab/Israeli issue' fire away, I'll debate you all night ... I decided to leave it. I really don’t have a lot to say about Arabs that wouldn’t lead to a world of shit. You obviously come at it from a very different perspective.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 1, 2024 10:23:49 GMT
Just a reminder that more journalists have been killed in this conflict than any other in history (111 now compared to 17 in the Ukraine/Russian conflict for example). This despite Israel forcibly denying as many journalists entry into Gaza as they can, journalists are now taking off their press jackets and helmets as they fear they are an active target of the IDF:
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Israel
Aug 1, 2024 19:53:11 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 1, 2024 19:53:11 GMT
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Israel
Aug 1, 2024 20:07:53 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 20:07:53 GMT
Remind me, who are the terrorists?
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Israel
Aug 1, 2024 20:19:30 GMT
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Post by lordb on Aug 1, 2024 20:19:30 GMT
Remind me, who are the terrorists? Everybody
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Aug 1, 2024 20:28:37 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 1, 2024 20:28:37 GMT
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Aug 1, 2024 20:30:25 GMT
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Post by themistocles on Aug 1, 2024 20:30:25 GMT
Just a reminder that more journalists have been killed in this conflict than any other in history (111 now compared to 17 in the Ukraine/Russian conflict for example). This despite Israel forcibly denying as many journalists entry into Gaza as they can, journalists are now taking off their press jackets and helmets as they fear they are an active target of the IDF: x.com/EFischberger/status/1769836495722987533?s=19You mean like this guy ? Bless them, you've just got to dig a little deeper. You missed a bit in your post. Journalists taking off their helmets and jackets to participate in Hamas operations.
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