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Post by yellowsnowman on Jul 13, 2024 14:17:44 GMT
Yes it’s amazing what playing with better footballers can do for a player's development. Will be interesting to see. The perfect example of that is Joselu. Shambolic Tez and sidibe need be around the first team. Lowe id send out on loan for the year.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 13, 2024 16:24:42 GMT
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Post by nonameface on Jul 13, 2024 16:31:56 GMT
Little bit unfair that. Under MON he got the best out of the players we had, only Schumacher in recent years has done similar. If we’d kept MON we’d have finished top half last season, he was gradually building something with limited finances. Hopeful Schumacher can build us up how he did Plymouth.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 14, 2024 0:03:46 GMT
Little bit unfair that. Under MON he got the best out of the players we had, only Schumacher in recent years has done similar. If we’d kept MON we’d have finished top half last season, he was gradually building something with limited finances. Hopeful Schumacher can build us up how he did Plymouth. Why would we have finished top half? 🤣He never did anything to suggest we’d do well under him.
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Post by bangorstokie on Jul 15, 2024 6:36:31 GMT
Liam Delano to Ipswich, £20 million. Is he really worth that much?
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Post by delilahwhy on Jul 15, 2024 6:38:37 GMT
Liam Delano to Ipswich, £20 million. Is he really worth that much? No. Hes probably worth 2mill.
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Post by bangorstokie on Jul 15, 2024 6:41:21 GMT
Liam Delano to Ipswich, £20 million. Is he really worth that much? No. Hes probably worth 2mill. Predictive text😡………..Delap.
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Post by callas12 on Jul 15, 2024 8:33:27 GMT
I'd doubt he's Premier League ready now, or infact perhaps ever. After a couple of very steady, modest stints in the Championship at 3x Clubs scoring 12 gls in 68 apps, may be wrong but I think he'll struggle in the Premier League.
£20 Mil does seem alot for such below average stats I'd suggest, but I suppose there's something in there for Man City to have rated him so highly.
It's a big gamble but I suppose one that Ipswich are having to make. They're never going to be in with a chance of attracting or recruiting good quality ready Premier League players & so a chance on players who are highly rated in the Championship with future potential is where recruitment model will be taking them.
Considering the Funds Ipswich had any way & especially now a Premier League club, they can afford to take these type of chances on players.
Ipswich are clearly doing something right on and off the pitch right now, after years of turmoil & there's every chance Delap could well be turned into a success story at Portman Road and flourish. They've obviously seen something in him from his Championship spells and Mckenna will no doubt get the best out of him & it could be a good guide as to where Delaps ceiling of ability can reach.
Whilst fearing for Ipswichs Premier League status based on other recent promotion teams sliding straight back down, I do actually think that they could suprise a few and earn enough points to stay up this season. I'd predicted them as a wild card to gain promotion last season & think they'll manage to scrape survival this season.
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Post by wonderwall on Jul 15, 2024 8:55:12 GMT
Liam Delano to Ipswich, £20 million. Is he really worth that much? British and young. Crazy price Current market price prob £4mil but paying on potential Harwood-bellis £20mil, equally crazy.
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Post by stokienorthants on Jul 15, 2024 9:32:58 GMT
Liam Delano to Ipswich, £20 million. Is he really worth that much? British and young. Crazy price Current market price prob £4mil but paying on potential Harwood-bellis £20mil, equally crazy. Who TF is Liam Delano?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 15, 2024 10:08:29 GMT
Think Liam will be a lower Prem,upper Championship goal scorer.
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Post by st3mark on Jul 15, 2024 10:20:23 GMT
If you told me we were signing him for say £6million, I'd be concerned that we could have got better for cheaper.
Good luck to the lad though.
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Post by lordb on Jul 15, 2024 10:45:22 GMT
its almost pointless now looking at the English market for strikers < loans apart > as they costs far more than we can pay
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Post by bangorstokie on Jul 15, 2024 12:47:37 GMT
Absolutely crazy valuation for an unproven P/L player. Just because he was on Man City’s book doesn’t mean he’s going to grow into some sort of world beater, if he was that good they would have kept him. He’s also coming back from a serious knee injury that kept him out of a large part of the season. We all know what can happen to a player (Bojan) when this happens. If Delap is worth 20 million then what price Bae? Having watched him in his first season in this country, the guy just oozes talent and if he progression coincides with the talent which he undoubtedly has, then P/L clubs will be queuing up to sign him.
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Post by baystokie on Jul 15, 2024 13:32:52 GMT
Liam Delano to Ipswich, £20 million. Is he really worth that much? What one players is 'worth' to one club may not necessarily be the same for another club. A player's 'worth' is only what someone is willing to pay for him - which is why most discussions on 'worth' are pointless as there isn't a right or wrong answer. It keeps this forum going of course when there's nowt else to report!!
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Post by callas12 on Jul 15, 2024 18:18:32 GMT
Absolutely crazy valuation for an unproven P/L player. Just because he was on Man City’s book doesn’t mean he’s going to grow into some sort of world beater, if he was that good they would have kept him. He’s also coming back from a serious knee injury that kept him out of a large part of the season. We all know what can happen to a player (Bojan) when this happens. If Delap is worth 20 million then what price Bae? Having watched him in his first season in this country, the guy just oozes talent and if he progression coincides with the talent which he undoubtedly has, then P/L clubs will be queuing up to sign him. Agree with majority of that apart from the 'if he was that good Man City would have kept him' mention. Man City have proved with Cole Palmer who oozes star quality that they weren't afraid to let players go who they think or suspect will make it elsewhere & even improve rival clubs in the process. Jesus & Zinchenko to Arsenal another couple of examples as well. Clearly great players that Man City know they can replace or already have better. Delap & Harwood Bellis clearly fall into the category of 'showed good early promise' but never going to be Manchester City instant 1st teamers so after periods of loans away have been sold off, for what is still quite good money! £40mil roughly for Harwood Bellis and Delap is great/crazy business for The Citizens..
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Post by thepottypotter on Aug 31, 2024 16:52:03 GMT
Great goal for him today against Fulham. Always knew he was prem quality.
Such a shame he came to us too early. Imagine how many he would score under Schumacher with our current midfield!
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Post by st3mark on Sept 3, 2024 6:59:17 GMT
Only just seen his goal. I rate Delap as a Target man and a presser, didn't realise he had a goal like that in his locker.
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Post by Gods on Sept 3, 2024 7:13:21 GMT
Peach of a goal.
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Post by pretzel on Sept 3, 2024 7:29:47 GMT
Looked like Erling Haaland as he brushed that defender aside and leathered it into the net.
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Post by bertiestan on Sept 3, 2024 8:04:25 GMT
Only just seen his goal. I rate Delap as a Target man and a presser, didn't realise he had a goal like that in his locker. Why cos of his stint on loan here when he was about 2 years undercooked🤷♂️ He was rated highly by City n Pep🔴⚪️
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Post by st3mark on Sept 3, 2024 8:52:49 GMT
Only just seen his goal. I rate Delap as a Target man and a presser, didn't realise he had a goal like that in his locker. Why cos of his stint on loan here when he was about 2 years undercooked🤷♂️ He was rated highly by City n Pep🔴⚪️ No, not because of that. Because it's not usually the kind of goal he scores.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 3, 2024 9:01:10 GMT
Personally I wish him all the very best for his career. To what heights he will hit will become clearer in time.
Humble pie may be on the menu for his vocal detractors who were (in my opinion) continually being critical of his time with us without recognising (or willing to recognise) his age, some of the players who played alongside him and the role he was being asked to play in a poor/struggling team.
If the jigsaw pieces of age, confidence, injury, coaching and service fit he could be a snip at £15M with Ipswich benefitting from a shrewd bit of risk taking in the transfer market.
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 3, 2024 9:16:36 GMT
I felt he was a bit unlucky here, I felt that the keeper always seemed to have a blinder when he was on the pitch and there's no doubt that Leno should have stopped that at the weekend
You need a bit of luck though and good luck to him
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 3, 2024 9:26:19 GMT
I think the Champ a real learning curve for a young striker. Delap tried to grapple with every centre back and they simply had years of experience over him and holding etc is far easier to get away with at our level.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 3, 2024 9:29:42 GMT
I hope he develops into one on England's best ever strikers. He obviously cared, maybe too much, and tried desperately hard in our colours. The fact it didn't come off for him here happens.
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Post by lordb on Sept 3, 2024 9:41:38 GMT
Only just seen his goal. I rate Delap as a Target man and a presser, didn't realise he had a goal like that in his locker. Sure does,we just didn't get to see it
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Post by lordb on Sept 3, 2024 9:42:23 GMT
I hope he develops into one on England's best ever strikers. He obviously cared, maybe too much, and tried desperately hard in our colours. The fact it didn't come off for him here happens. He needs to work on his first touch
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 3, 2024 11:35:31 GMT
He was too young and inexperienced when he came to us. Fingers crossed that he develops into a very good player as he continues to learn the ropes. I wish Rory had had a word in his ear and told him to go elsewhere. It would have been better for everyone and wouldn't have upset his dad who was a legend here. No winners methinks.
OS.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 3, 2024 11:50:37 GMT
Harry Kane was similar in his early loans. Struggled to make an impact and I doubt a single Norwich fan saw remotely what was coming
Not going overboard with Delap due to a good goal but looks likes he's really come on as players either do or don't at that age quite often
How many times have we read on here that certain young player will rip that league apart I think the cliche is and instead have drifted away ?
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