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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 8, 2023 13:47:33 GMT
Including a multi ball system at every ground🤔
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Post by skip on Jun 8, 2023 13:49:51 GMT
Multiball makes me think of pinball machines when you've managed to shoot the ball through a tricky feature three times on the spin. Ding-a-ding-ding a clack-a-clack... smash those flippers!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 8, 2023 13:52:09 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 8, 2023 13:54:23 GMT
What a waste of legislation 😂 Maybe put a clock on the game and any club found to spend more than a certain % of time with the ball out of play can be fined. Or maybe, just maybe, have the referees enforce existing laws on timewasting. 6 seconds for a goalkeeper. Make it 6 seconds for a throw in from the time the player has the ball. Finally: “ That prohibits owners from countries which are sanctioned or have convictions for violent offences or fraud of any kind, among a series of other updates.” Hard to imagine a good reason for why this took so long! |
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Post by Northy on Jun 8, 2023 13:57:40 GMT
With Wigan, Reading etc in mind? - HMRC REPORTING
The EFL has updated Regulation 17.1 to include all debts due to HMRC and now requires Clubs to report any defaults within two working days.
30-DAY RULE
The non-payment of HMRC debt has been added as a trigger of Regulation 52.6, so Clubs who accumulate 30 days of late payments in a 12-month period will be unable to sign a player for a fee or any consideration for three full transfer windows. The amendment to the 30-Day Rule also provides for Clubs to self-report late payment of any debt covered by Regulation 52.6, plus a right of appeal for Clubs triggering the 30-Day Rule.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 8, 2023 15:35:13 GMT
Nothing wrong with the rules,it just needs Refs to endorse them,like time wasting,Keepers holding to ball longer than 6 seconds,one change I would make,if a player gets fouled then has to leave the pitch after receiving treatment,the player who committed the foul has to leave the pitch also.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jun 8, 2023 16:47:43 GMT
The OADT has also been updated to treat anybody who is currently undergoing an investigation which may lead to a disqualifying condition, as being subject to a disqualifying condition until such time as they clear the allegations.
That's guilty until proven innocent and contrary to English law isn't it?
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 8, 2023 17:02:35 GMT
The OADT has also been updated to treat anybody who is currently undergoing an investigation which may lead to a disqualifying condition, as being subject to a disqualifying condition until such time as they clear the allegations.
That's guilty until proven innocent and contrary to English law isn't it? Not sure. Is someone under investigation for child sex offences allowed to take a job at a day care or in teaching? I thought that businesses usually suspended current staff. In both cases, they aren’t saying you are guilty, they are just saying we will wait and see. |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jun 8, 2023 18:34:44 GMT
The OADT has also been updated to treat anybody who is currently undergoing an investigation which may lead to a disqualifying condition, as being subject to a disqualifying condition until such time as they clear the allegations.
That's guilty until proven innocent and contrary to English law isn't it? Not sure. Is someone under investigation for child sex offences allowed to take a job at a day care or in teaching? I thought that businesses usually suspended current staff. In both cases, they aren’t saying you are guilty, they are just saying we will wait and see. Article 6 2 of the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law. Most likely would be challenged under the above. If it's HMRC that is claiming against the club then that's definitely a potential criminal offence. A petition brought by an unsecured 3rd party creditor is a civil matter. The grey bit in the middle is where this will get tested I imagine. Be a few quid to be made out of this for the legal boys whatever. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 8, 2023 19:09:57 GMT
Instead of this multi-ball and no towels bollox to save time how about an official time keeper who stops the clock when the ball isn’t in play.
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Jun 8, 2023 19:14:06 GMT
Instead of this multi-ball and no towels bollox to save time how about an official time keeper who stops the clock when the ball isn’t in play. most sensible post on the subject |
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 8, 2023 19:42:08 GMT
Nothing wrong with the rules,it just needs Refs to endorse them,like time wasting,Keepers holding to ball longer than 6 seconds,one change I would make,if a player gets fouled then has to leave the pitch after receiving treatment,the player who committed the foul has to leave the pitch also. Be funny watching some cunt keeper lying on the ball get caught out on this. |
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Post by jaybee on Jun 8, 2023 21:40:11 GMT
Instead of this multi-ball and no towels bollox to save time how about an official time keeper who stops the clock when the ball isn’t in play. Because that would just be too simple! |
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Post by spiderpuss on Jun 8, 2023 21:52:11 GMT
Multiball is all very well, but I just cast my mind back to this season, where the ball boy/girl didn't see the ball go out and just sat around doing nothing. More agile and active ball people might be an idea.
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Post by hotterpotter on Jun 8, 2023 22:03:34 GMT
Instead of this multi-ball and no towels bollox to save time how about an official time keeper who stops the clock when the ball isn’t in play. They'd need to experiment with the amount of time allowed for the match but surely it's time to give it a go! |
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Post by hotterpotter on Jun 8, 2023 22:07:28 GMT
Rory didn't use a towel - he just had a rather unusual shirt design.
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Post by hotterpotter on Jun 8, 2023 22:12:15 GMT
"Match balls will be placed on cones in designated areas at pitch side to help increase the time of the ball being in play"
Presumably the balls will be removable...
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Post by nottsover60 on Jun 8, 2023 22:55:42 GMT
"Match balls will be placed on cones in designated areas at pitch side to help increase the time of the ball being in play" Presumably the balls will be removable... From what I've seen, time isn't wasted because the ball isn't available but because the players can't be bothered to pick it up, can't decide who is taking the throw or try to take a throw in five yards forward of where it should be taken. These things will still happen in the multi ball system. Stronger referees is the answer. |
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Post by jeycov on Jun 9, 2023 6:04:18 GMT
Not to mention the potential advantages from taking the throw ins nowhere near where the ball goes out of play
Towelling team shirts on the way?
Adding on more minutes for time wasting seems to be the most sensible option
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 9, 2023 6:54:23 GMT
Instead of this multi-ball and no towels bollox to save time how about an official time keeper who stops the clock when the ball isn’t in play. They'd need to experiment with the amount of time allowed for the match but surely it's time to give it a go! I agree mate. A quick google reveals that across professional football last season the ball was in play for an average of 51 minutes 23 seconds which is the lowest since recording began 11 seasons ago. So last season a game would have lasted around 1 hour 30 minutes to achieve 90 minutes in play time.But players would speed up their time wasting and out of play antics when it dawned on the brighter ones that they were having to work 45% longer for no extra pay.  |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jun 9, 2023 7:28:54 GMT
"Match balls will be placed on cones in designated areas at pitch side to help increase the time of the ball being in play" Presumably the balls will be removable... Not on days like when Bego scored from his own area. They will be Blutacked down otherwise we'll have half a dozen balls blowing into the Boothen End goal. |
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Post by femark on Jun 9, 2023 7:38:56 GMT
Instead of this multi-ball and no towels bollox to save time how about an official time keeper who stops the clock when the ball isn’t in play. Because that would just be too simple! Sure I read a statistic that said the ball is only in play for an average of 55 minutes per game. That'd make matches very long! |
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 9, 2023 8:10:02 GMT
They'd need to experiment with the amount of time allowed for the match but surely it's time to give it a go! I agree mate. A quick google reveals that across professional football last season the ball was in play for an average of 51 minutes 23 seconds which is the lowest since recording began 11 seasons ago. So last season a game would have lasted around 1 hour 30 minutes to achieve 90 minutes in play time.But players would speed up their time wasting and out of play antics when it dawned on the brighter ones that they were having to work 45% longer for no extra pay. Did you mean around 2 hours 30 minutes game time to achieve 90 minutes play time? |
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Post by nottsover60 on Jun 9, 2023 8:24:39 GMT
Because that would just be too simple! Sure I read a statistic that said the ball is only in play for an average of 55 minutes per game. That'd make matches very long! Absolutely true. One of our home matches last year, can't remember who against but it was someone who scored early, the ball was in play for less than 45 minutes. |
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Post by Robo10 on Jun 9, 2023 8:44:02 GMT
Multi ball is fine for the first 80 mins of the game
However....in a tight game it encourages players/ball people/coaches to chuck the other ball back on the pitch (with a gallic shrug of 'whaaaatt??') to stop any quick throw ins - we see it all the time
Second, I've noticed in the Prem and in most of the play off games, this ridiculous goal kick situation where they setup for the short one Man City style, opponents press, they fart about looking for a pass for 2 mins, then give up, reset, and the goalie does that waving forward action and we have to wait another 2 mins while they all move forward for the longer kick - its a frustrating waste of playing time
I'd like to see keepers booked if they do it a lot (not that they do, they only get booked in added time for time wasting....)
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 9, 2023 12:09:49 GMT
I agree mate. A quick google reveals that across professional football last season the ball was in play for an average of 51 minutes 23 seconds which is the lowest since recording began 11 seasons ago. So last season a game would have lasted around 1 hour 30 minutes to achieve 90 minutes in play time.But players would speed up their time wasting and out of play antics when it dawned on the brighter ones that they were having to work 45% longer for no extra pay. Did you mean around 2 hours 30 minutes game time to achieve 90 minutes play time? Oops my bad maths. An additional 40 minutes would mean 130 minutes to get the 90 minutes in-play time. 2 hours 10 minutes. |
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Post by skemstokie on Jun 12, 2023 11:04:34 GMT
Not to mention the potential advantages from taking the throw ins nowhere near where the ball goes out of play Towelling team shirts on the way? Adding on more minutes for time wasting seems to be the most sensible option Maybe 5 minutes in sin bin for waste time? |
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 12, 2023 11:33:48 GMT
Multi ball is fine for the first 80 mins of the game However....in a tight game it encourages players/ball people/coaches to chuck the other ball back on the pitch (with a gallic shrug of 'whaaaatt??') to stop any quick throw ins - we see it all the time Second, I've noticed in the Prem and in most of the play off games, this ridiculous goal kick situation where they setup for the short one Man City style, opponents press, they fart about looking for a pass for 2 mins, then give up, reset, and the goalie does that waving forward action and we have to wait another 2 mins while they all move forward for the longer kick - its a frustrating waste of playing time I'd like to see keepers booked if they do it a lot (not that they do, they only get booked in added time for time wasting....) The last part is just so true. There are already laws in place to tackle this. What you need are a set of refs that will uphold them. The FA can pretend to earn their ridiculous salaries by making more and more ineffective laws or they could simply ask the refs to uphold the ones that they have in place. |
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Post by leicspotter on Jun 12, 2023 16:51:05 GMT
Funny how football mirrors society (or vice versa). The laws are there, but don't get implemented...solution, change the laws or bring in new ones = more confusion, more laws that don't get enforced, more loopholes to be searched for Why not JUST ENFORCE the laws we already have  It would, of course, mean that the FA would need to fully back the officials and not shit out at the first hint of a moan from one of the 'big' clubs  My current pet hate is shirt pulling, it's wrong, it's snide and it's (as we have seen) potentially dangerous...should be a yellow card every time yet most of the time it doesn't even warrant a free kick |
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