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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 4, 2023 12:02:52 GMT
Pericard in his peak,would struggle to get in to our present squad.
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 4, 2023 12:24:29 GMT
Which to be fair he could, as his World Cup winner’s medal rather suggests. Not that line again. Some players that get a medal hardly play. He came on as a second half sub. Does the same apply to Vincent pericard who once played for Juventus? No. It doesn't. But you knew that. |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 4, 2023 12:50:34 GMT
Wasn't N'Zonzi the lad with the pushy family agents, who convinced him he could "do better"? I had no idea he was was related to Arnie. |
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Post by nonameface on Jun 4, 2023 12:52:26 GMT
The only midfielder we've had in about 15 years who can dictate the tempo of it!
He was an outstanding player.
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 4, 2023 12:58:48 GMT
Not that line again. Some players that get a medal hardly play. He came on as a second half sub. Does the same apply to Vincent pericard who once played for Juventus? He changed that game. Are you really comparing him to Pericard? It’s a silly comparison really. Nzonzi played 20 games for France national team as well as is other medals. Pericard never started a game for Juventus. Nzonzi was a top player and that ship sailed sometime ago. |
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 4, 2023 13:00:54 GMT
Not that line again. Some players that get a medal hardly play. He came on as a second half sub. Does the same apply to Vincent pericard who once played for Juventus? He changed that game. Are you really comparing him to Pericard? It’s a silly comparison really. Nzonzi played 20 games for France national team as well as his other medals. Pericard never started a game for Juventus. Nzonzi was a top player and that ship sailed sometime ago. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 4, 2023 13:29:31 GMT
Successful re-signings would include Alan Hudson, who at 32 inspired us on an incredible run of 33 points from 17 games, to avoid relegation on the last day of the season. And also Mickey Thomas at 35, who went on to win our Player of the Season award the next year. After the Thomas signing announcement, I can still remember my family debating before the next kickoff, who we had actually signed. It seemed impossible it could be the same Mickey Thomas as before, who seemed to belong to a completely different era, and surely would have retired years ago. Some people offered that we might have signed Michael Thomas, the Arsenal player, whereas others thought it must be a different player altogether, who just happened to have the same name as the famous players. Our confusion wasn't helped when a little bald bloke then ran out of the tunnel, who looked like no one we'd ever seen before. When the game kicked off though, and we saw him buzzing about like a busy little bee, we knew it was good old Mickey T! Could have sworn Micky still had long hair when he re- signed 🤔 |
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Post by boscfc on Jun 4, 2023 13:33:23 GMT
He changed that game. Are you really comparing him to Pericard? It’s a silly comparison really. Nzonzi played 20 games for France national team as well as his other medals. Pericard never started a game for Juventus. Nzonzi was a top player and that ship sailed sometime ago. What you have to remember is that Sportsman’s dislike for Nzonzi goes back years on this messageboard. Totally bizarre but quite amusing at the time. Particularly in light of what he’s gone on to achieve. |
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Post by PenkPonther on Jun 4, 2023 14:13:09 GMT
Our confusion wasn't helped when a little bald bloke then ran out of the tunnel, who looked like no one we'd ever seen before. Could have sworn Micky still had long hair when he re- signed 🤔 Interesting... it's certainly possible that my memory is playing tricks on me! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 14:20:28 GMT
Successful re-signings would include Alan Hudson, who at 32 inspired us on an incredible run of 33 points from 17 games, to avoid relegation on the last day of the season. And also Mickey Thomas at 35, who went on to win our Player of the Season award the next year. After the Thomas signing announcement, I can still remember my family debating before the next kickoff, who we had actually signed. It seemed impossible it could be the same Mickey Thomas as before, who seemed to belong to a completely different era, and surely would have retired years ago. Some people offered that we might have signed Michael Thomas, the Arsenal player, whereas others thought it must be a different player altogether, who just happened to have the same name as the famous players. Our confusion wasn't helped when a little bald bloke then ran out of the tunnel, who looked like no one we'd ever seen before. When the game kicked off though, and we saw him buzzing about like a busy little bee, we knew it was good old Mickey T! Could have sworn Micky still had long hair when he re- signed 🤔 He definitely did. A bald Mickey Thomas never played for us as far as I can remember? |
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Post by PenkPonther on Jun 4, 2023 14:32:50 GMT
Ok cool;
I'm guessing it was a huge fuzzball haircut then?!?
(I have a memory of it being completely different to his first spell with us, and this causing confusion as to whether it was him or not.)
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 4, 2023 14:48:05 GMT
Which to be fair he could, as his World Cup winner’s medal rather suggests. Not that line again. Some players that get a medal hardly play. He came on as a second half sub. Does the same apply to Vincent pericard who once played for Juventus? His introduction was pivotal in that game |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 4, 2023 14:49:26 GMT
Which to be fair he could, as his World Cup winner’s medal rather suggests. Not that line again. Some players that get a medal hardly play. He came on as a second half sub. Does the same apply to Vincent pericard who once played for Juventus? Blimey, I'd completely forgotten that you never rated him! 😄 |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 4, 2023 14:52:17 GMT
He's probably prefer to retire than have to play in the Championship. He doesn't strike me as the type who'd be up for anything like that once his career has peaked and he's on the long downslope. He's in the making lots of money in the sun stage of semi-retirement You'd think Begovic would move into that kind of area like MLS too, but you never know. Bego has a real affection for Stoke though, found it tough to leave etc. I think he’d consider a return if the circumstances were right. Not sure there’s quite the same bond for Steven 🙂 |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 4, 2023 14:58:21 GMT
If we are looking at ex
good/ great players, then they have to be recent & still playing at a good level,with a couple of years still left in the tank.
Can't think of any who would want to return, unless they get better wages than where they are now.
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Post by nott1 on Jun 4, 2023 15:10:26 GMT
I can’t imagine he’d want to play in the Champo, especially for a bottom half team. We would not be one at the start of a new season all teams would be equal! |
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 4, 2023 15:13:25 GMT
Wasn't N'Zonzi the lad with the pushy family agents, who convinced him he could "do better"? Which to be fair he could, as his World Cup winner’s medal rather suggests. And you think that's somehow better than Stoke? Cheese 'n' Bacon oatcakes etc etc? |
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 4, 2023 15:14:00 GMT
I can’t imagine he’d want to play in the Champo, especially for a bottom half team. We would not be one at the start of a new season all teams would be equal! Alphabetically we would... |
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Post by nott1 on Jun 4, 2023 15:14:01 GMT
If we are looking at ex good/ great players, then they have to be recent & still playing at a good level,with a couple of years still left in the tank. Can't think of any who would want to return, unless they get better wages than where they are now. Nzonzi isn't anywhere, he's a free agent. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 15:14:38 GMT
Ok cool; I'm guessing it was a huge fuzzball haircut then?!? (I have a memory of it being completely different to his first spell with us, and this causing confusion as to whether it was him or not.)  |
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Post by PenkPonther on Jun 4, 2023 15:35:30 GMT
Ok cool; I'm guessing it was a huge fuzzball haircut then?!? (I have a memory of it being completely different to his first spell with us, and this causing confusion as to whether it was him or not.) Well done: I couldn't find an image anywhere of his second spell. And his hair isn't massively different from his first spell; Attachment Deleted...it was perhaps a bit more wild and straggly in his mid-30s, but still better than mine was at that age!  |
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Post by felonious on Jun 4, 2023 17:44:41 GMT
Wasn't N'Zonzi the lad with the pushy family agents, who convinced him he could "do better"? He was far too good for us. If he was my family member and taking the bias out of it, I’d be saying what the hell are you doing at Stoke. He’d of been perfect for Arsenal if he went to there from us. I think it was the 1:0 defeat away to Arsenal when he was the best player on the park. I've no idea what Wenger didn't see that day as you say he would have improved Arsenal. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2023 8:53:12 GMT
Wasn't N'Zonzi the lad with the pushy family agents, who convinced him he could "do better"? He did well to listen. |
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Post by onionman on Jun 5, 2023 13:43:43 GMT
Well done: I couldn't find an image anywhere of his second spell. And his hair isn't massively different from his first spell; View Attachment...it was perhaps a bit more wild and straggly in his mid-30s, but still better than mine was at that age! He came back with a bald head a few years later for a celebrity match - either the game before the Autoglass final, or the last match at the Victoria Ground. Maybe both? But that was the time when nobody recognised him. |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jun 5, 2023 16:16:05 GMT
Which to be fair he could, as his World Cup winner’s medal rather suggests. Not that line again. Some players that get a medal hardly play. He came on as a second half sub. Does the same apply to Vincent pericard who once played for Juventus? Possibly one of the most ludicrous comparisons in Oatcake history Take a bow fella, hilarious 😂😂 |
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Post by meirman61 on Jun 5, 2023 20:24:55 GMT
Wasn't N'Zonzi the lad with the pushy family agents, who convinced him he could "do better"? And he did. |
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Post by pieofpeter on Jun 5, 2023 21:11:55 GMT
Was a rolls Royce of a midfielder and people didn't relise how good he was until he left.
Apparently took less money to sign for the Spainish side than what we offered him.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 17, 2023 17:21:43 GMT
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jun 17, 2023 17:29:24 GMT
Market opportunity. The 34-year-old midfielder Steven Nzonzi becomes a free agent after completing his contract with Qatar's Al Rayyan 👉🏻He has experience in #LaLiga after his time at the sevillafc. He also played, among others, in AS Roma, Rennes, Galatasaray and Stoke 'Come an get me' plea if ever I saw one |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 17, 2023 17:30:31 GMT
The stripes are far too narrow on that kit👀 |
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