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Post by musik on May 23, 2024 5:50:26 GMT
I think they got a further 14.000 police men, but I'd say they need 100.000-200.000 for a start. They haven't co-operated that much with our military yet, but it will come. They're taking it step by step. However, as it is a struggle and they realistically won't get 100.000 to 200.000 police men, a civil war here isn't an unlikely outcome in 30 to 50 years. The C party and the rest of the opponents might win the next National Election, and since they can think of waving another 25 million people in, it's like ordering a civil war. Not everyone as in 100%, but 95-99% I would say are against drugs and say the drug use is the reason for the fights. Most of them think the drug use among the shooters is in fact causing the shootings. The Police have succeeded with several operations and have found and destroyed many tons of drugs. They have also arrested lots of people. However, we haven't any room for them in prison. The newest suggestion I heard to solve this is to no longer give any financial support to the countries which refuse to take back the criminals. It might work. The visitation zones have just started in practice around here. Even though they are obliged to warn the public in advance about where and when it will happen, they manage to arrest 14 people and capture weapons and stuff in broad daylight. What drugs are prompting people to randomly shoot and bomb each other? Almost anything. The latest is fags. That's why they just have decided not to sell any cigarettes at Pressbyrån and 7-eleven, our two largest chains of that kind (called kiosks here). They see them in the same range as energy drinks. People go beserck. It's silly, I know. What surprises me the most is that the Liberal Party go in the front for this.
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Post by elystokie on May 23, 2024 5:56:20 GMT
What drugs are prompting people to randomly shoot and bomb each other? Almost anything. The latest is fags. That's why they just have decided not to sell any cigarettes at Pressbyrån and 7-eleven, our two largest chains of that kind (called kiosks here). They see them in the same range as energy drinks. People go beserck. It's silly, I know. What surprises me the most is that the Liberal Party go in the front for this. I've never heard of smoking fags and/or drinking energy drinks having the effect on it's users of giving them the urge to go out and shoot or bomb people before. Has someone seriously suggested this? 🤔
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Post by elystokie on May 24, 2024 8:57:17 GMT
It seems the international media see it differently, are they wrong? theweek.com/crime/gangs-guns-and-bombs-swedens-crisis-of-violence'This mayhem is the product of "turf wars for control of the drug trade, driven by an influx of guns, personal vendettas and a pool of available youths, many from marginalised migrant communities", said Sune Engel Rasmussen in The Wall Street Journal (New York).' Strangely reminiscent of Italian immigrants in the USA during alcohol prohibition that spawned the Mafia activities 🤔
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Post by musik on May 24, 2024 11:54:42 GMT
It seems the international media see it differently, are they wrong? theweek.com/crime/gangs-guns-and-bombs-swedens-crisis-of-violence'This mayhem is the product of "turf wars for control of the drug trade, driven by an influx of guns, personal vendettas and a pool of available youths, many from marginalised migrant communities", said Sune Engel Rasmussen in The Wall Street Journal (New York).' Strangely reminiscent of Italian immigrants in the USA during alcohol prohibition that spawned the Mafia activities 🤔 That's a description of what is going on. The solution differs. And most of all, what the cause is.
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Post by elystokie on May 24, 2024 12:40:33 GMT
It seems the international media see it differently, are they wrong? theweek.com/crime/gangs-guns-and-bombs-swedens-crisis-of-violence'This mayhem is the product of "turf wars for control of the drug trade, driven by an influx of guns, personal vendettas and a pool of available youths, many from marginalised migrant communities", said Sune Engel Rasmussen in The Wall Street Journal (New York).' Strangely reminiscent of Italian immigrants in the USA during alcohol prohibition that spawned the Mafia activities 🤔 That's a description of what is going on. The solution differs. And most of all, what the cause is. It seems quite clear that it's not the psychoactive effects of various drugs, even tobacco and energy drinks (which tbf is a ridiculous notion) but more a dispute about who's going to supply the illegal drugs that there's evidently a substantial market for. Just like it was in prohibitionist America. Literally the only difference is the product the fighting is over, then it was alcohol now its something different. The solution now is the same as it was then, as they eventually realised. Nowadays various countries, including the one that foisted the ridiculous idea on the world inthe first place, are realising it all over again.
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Post by musik on May 24, 2024 16:20:42 GMT
That's a description of what is going on. The solution differs. And most of all, what the cause is. It seems quite clear that it's not the psychoactive effects of various drugs, even tobacco and energy drinks (which tbf is a ridiculous notion) but more a dispute about who's going to supply the illegal drugs that there's evidently a substantial market for. Just like it was in prohibitionist America. Literally the only difference is the product the fighting is over, then it was alcohol now its something different. The solution now is the same as it was then, as they eventually realised. Nowadays various countries, including the one that foisted the ridiculous idea on the world inthe first place, are realising it all over again. You're talking about the reality, how it works in practice, but our politicians have visions and these are guiding them. And the one they're working with is this: Drugs are never a solution in any case for anybody, so therefore the problem is the drug use in itself. If noone used drugs we wouldn't have any shooting caused by them. Frankly, I think they have already taken a step further towards this war against drugs now, since they will be selling alcohol in more places soon. Their argument here is that narcotics have no place in the Swedish flora, on the other hand alcohol has. Hmm.🤔 So they want us to drink more alcohol, and coffee of course ... But drugs, nah. The most common phrase kids are told at school is "drugs is poo". 🤠
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Post by musik on May 24, 2024 16:40:23 GMT
I miss the old tv programs where many small political parties were asked and interviewed.
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Post by elystokie on May 24, 2024 18:04:59 GMT
It seems quite clear that it's not the psychoactive effects of various drugs, even tobacco and energy drinks (which tbf is a ridiculous notion) but more a dispute about who's going to supply the illegal drugs that there's evidently a substantial market for. Just like it was in prohibitionist America. Literally the only difference is the product the fighting is over, then it was alcohol now its something different. The solution now is the same as it was then, as they eventually realised. Nowadays various countries, including the one that foisted the ridiculous idea on the world inthe first place, are realising it all over again. You're talking about the reality, how it works in practice, but our politicians have visions and these are guiding them. And the one they're working with is this: Drugs are never a solution in any case for anybody, so therefore the problem is the drug use in itself. If noone used drugs we wouldn't have any shooting caused by them. Frankly, I think they have already taken a step further towards this war against drugs now, since they will be selling alcohol in more places soon. Their argument here is that narcotics have no place in the Swedish flora, on the other hand alcohol has. Hmm.🤔 So they want us to drink more alcohol, and coffee of course ... But drugs, nah. The most common phrase kids are told at school is "drugs is poo". 🤠 Driving people away from safer drugs towards alcohol is tantamount to social genocide 🤷 They did the same misinformation project in this country and even more so in the USA, society is still suffering now because of it.
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Post by musik on May 25, 2024 8:31:43 GMT
You're talking about the reality, how it works in practice, but our politicians have visions and these are guiding them. And the one they're working with is this: Drugs are never a solution in any case for anybody, so therefore the problem is the drug use in itself. If noone used drugs we wouldn't have any shooting caused by them. Frankly, I think they have already taken a step further towards this war against drugs now, since they will be selling alcohol in more places soon. Their argument here is that narcotics have no place in the Swedish flora, on the other hand alcohol has. Hmm.🤔 So they want us to drink more alcohol, and coffee of course ... But drugs, nah. The most common phrase kids are told at school is "drugs is poo". 🤠 Driving people away from safer drugs towards alcohol is tantamount to social genocide 🤷 They did the same misinformation project in this country and even more so in the USA, society is still suffering now because of it. Alcohol is more dangerous than they (and most people) seem to know. But it's all a tradition and cultural thing. Energy drinks. You can stop any random person above 40 on the streets here and you will hear them blame energy drinks for a lot of stuff. The lack of discipline at school, the bad school results, development of adhd and other mental diagnoses, hyperactivity and unfocused brain damage, fertility problems, bad vision. The pressure from the grown up masses have led to finding them in shops is a bit trickier these days. Not on display. Tobacco. Apart from different cancer types, depending on the product sold, lung problems caused by inhalation. No news actually.
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Post by elystokie on May 25, 2024 9:01:03 GMT
They're either ignorant or have an ulterior motive. Numerous studies have been done. Look at figure 3 on the link and notice how far in front alcohol is of all other drugs when it comes to 'harm to others'. Isn't that the purpose of the law? To prevent harm to others? That's why prohibition is so very misguided not to mention highly hypocritical. www.ias.org.uk/uploads/pdf/News%20stories/dnutt-lancet-011110.pdf'The ISCD scores lend support to the widely accepted view that alcohol is an extremely harmful drug, both to users and society; it scored fourth on harms to users and top for harms to society, making it the most harmful drug overall. Even interms of toxic effects alone, Gable12 has shown that, on the basis of a safety ratio, alcohol is more lethal than many illicit drugs such as cannabis, LSD and mushrooms' And yet it's the illicit drugs that get stigmatised, often by the pissheads! 🤦😂
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Post by musik on May 26, 2024 9:53:04 GMT
I wonder if an ulterior motive exists, I would be surprised.
Today I'm going to the graveyard on Mother's day and to visit the flea market a little bit. I wonder if some EU candidates are preaching, I'll let you know, before I go back to follow five games simultaneously.
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Post by musik on May 26, 2024 12:33:37 GMT
I wonder if an ulterior motive exists, I would be surprised. Today I'm going to the graveyard on Mother's day and to visit the flea market a little bit. I wonder if some EU candidates are preaching, I'll let you know, before I go back to follow five games simultaneously. I bought the flowers alright, one called Million Bells and the other Wallrank. But it was and is piss raining! I won't dig and put down plants again in a heavy rain, every time I have done it so far a heavy rain has been present. Besides, I just had pneumonia. Time for ginger & lemon tea. It will rain for 2-3 weeks here now more or less constantly according to the weather forecast, so I will take the trip to the graveyard after this period. Typically Swedish: RAINY SUMMER.
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Post by musik on May 29, 2024 22:23:35 GMT
Sweden have finally decided. People not with a Swedish Citizenship and those who have but also have another citizenship will be serving time in a prison in their home country instead. It might be Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Kongo, Pakistan, Bulgaria, Russia, Iran, Irak, Mexico, Algeria, Turkey, Syria, Japan or whatever - the Swedish government don't give a flying f@ck where you come from or what the situation is like there now.
20% of all criminals in Swedish prisons today haven't got a Swedish citizenship. And if you count and include all foreigners with a Swedish citizenship the number in prison is about 70%.
Thinking only 20% of the total population are immigrants, the situation is really biased.
The new rule starts 1 July 2025. The proposal came already in 2013.
The Swedes in prison are not included to be sent away. Yet. But we really need to rebuild and shorten the queues to an apartment.
Sweden can be the first prison free country in the world. They strive for it.
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Post by musik on May 30, 2024 12:47:40 GMT
Sweden's Christ Democrats have declared you don't belong to Sweden if you are a muslim and can't stand by Swedish values. But if you do, then you're welcome to stay.
People wonder if this means they have to alter the message they've learnt from their Holy book to have a chance here.
Muharrem Demirokk, or Hemorojd Semikolon as I call him, also known as the Idiot (with a big capital I) says he doesn't like the statement made by the Christ Democrats, and says it will only increase the polarization already existing.
If anything letting them dictate their own rules and laws and be living outside of the Swedish society is the safest way to maintain or increase the polarisation.
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Post by musik on Jun 5, 2024 12:08:34 GMT
It's EU debate days this week in Sweden and they invited a man to a forum panel discussion on TV.
He just said "when discussing the number of crimes in Sweden we often forget that some type of crimes actually decrease over time. One good example is the cash-in-transit robberies."
🤣 You stupid f@ck! During the digitalisation the amount of cash has diminished within the society and therefore also the need for that type of transports.
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Post by musik on Jun 8, 2024 21:16:08 GMT
Today we had this EU Election debate on TV where all our EU candidates where gathered together, well at least one person from each of the 8 political parties in the parliament (Riksdagen).
There on prime time the Left Party V leader said: "No wonder the political prisoners in Turkey escape from their over filled prisons, we must help them in."
Noone reacted as I did. Help them?
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Post by musik on Jun 9, 2024 22:21:57 GMT
They're still counting the votes, but ... It looked like the left party V have had a success in this EU Election. So had the Green party MP. All our eight political parties in our parliament (Riksdagen) got at least 1 mandate so they could send at least 1 person each to Brussels.
The left side got 57,5 and the right side only 41,5.
If this had been a Voting for our next government our current government would have been replaced. 2% voted for something else.
While the right wing or even ultra right wing have had success in many European places, in Denmark, Croatia, Finland and some other places like here, the left side or green side has been successful.
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Post by musik on Jun 10, 2024 11:06:40 GMT
The Green Party MP in Sweden were the big winners in the Swedish EU Election. While the green parties go back elsewhere, it goes forward here, which we partly have to thank Greta and the movement for.
So Sweden are sending not only 2 but 3 persons from MP to Brussels this time. Hopefully they can do a good job for the environment there. I wouldn't pick them for ruling the whole country here though, so focus on the climate and environment pls.
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Post by musik on Jun 24, 2024 22:31:22 GMT
The government ordered an investigation about the relationship between crime and punishment. It lead to new conclusions about prison time.
Sweden will increase the time minors can be locked away from 4 to 14 years.
It also seems if the stats hold, Sweden can be the country with most minors in prison in the world, due to their large proportion on the year - crime scale.
Swe news and text tv Mon
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Post by musik on Jun 27, 2024 23:54:10 GMT
The Prime Minister promised during the Almedals week they will soon double the amount of security cameras in this country.
He also praised the success with the visitation zones, where loads of weapons and drugs have been taken.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 28, 2024 10:21:21 GMT
Hey musik, what're the "typical" Swedish stereotypes for the Finns?
On a Helsinki trip and I know neighbours often have funny ideas about each other.
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Post by musik on Jun 28, 2024 17:58:26 GMT
Hey musik, what're the "typical" Swedish stereotypes for the Finns? On a Helsinki trip and I know neighbours often have funny ideas about each other. Well, myself being a product of both worlds I don't know what to say. Finns are known for their saunas of course. When I grow up I could sometime hear they were always equipped with a knife. And perhaps they could stand more booze. I see Finland as a more proud and national country with less immigrants. We have the weekend Finnkampen once a year where the best athletes from our two countries compete. It's often amazingly even, even though they have less inhabitants. And the games vs Finland in ice hockey is always special, and skiing, even if Norway lead the way there. I guess Sweden is more into fashion, perhaps the Finns are less manipulated and less stupid to follow very trend instantly. They often want to shock Europe in the Eurovision by costumes or something crazy. Swedes are more reserved. My mom escaped the Russian invasion, but I might go there someday. I've never been there. Love them!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 28, 2024 18:22:38 GMT
I’ve been to all the Scandinavian countries and find them all fairly similar. Apart from Finland, they’re barmy and the capital itself is a very individualistic city, one of my favourites apart from the price of beer. When I went it was recommended to fly by helicopter to Tallin in Estonia, have a night out and back same evening as it would be cheaper than spending the night in Helsinki🤷🏻♂️
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 28, 2024 21:46:10 GMT
I’ve been to all the Scandinavian countries and find them all fairly similar. Apart from Finland, they’re barmy and the capital itself is a very individualistic city, one of my favourites apart from the price of beer. When I went it was recommended to fly by helicopter to Tallin in Estonia, have a night out and back same evening as it would be cheaper than spending the night in Helsinki🤷🏻♂️ Fucking hell we went to the bar and you're right. Problem solved by some long drinks from the supermarket and sitting on the grass with the locals.
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Post by musik on Jun 29, 2024 10:33:56 GMT
According to the text tv news here a couple of weeks back, a transsexual man gave birth to a baby at a hospital here. Now he is suing the hospital for not calling him father in the medical journals.
I'm confused. How about you?
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Post by musik on Jun 29, 2024 13:59:44 GMT
According to the latest polls, the right side get about 45% of the votes. The wrong side get about 53% of the votes.
How is it even possible?
The left side party want:
1) 15 million more immigrants 2) Sweden to immeditely leave and work against Nato 3) Even higher taxes (to support everyone who can't get a job, which in itself isn't possible since there aren't any jobs left, they are not growing on trees). 4) Enlarge the public sector, with even higher taxes on companies
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Post by musik on Jun 29, 2024 22:30:24 GMT
Police report
Sweden have succeeded in decreasing the shootings and bombings for the first six months of the year (January-June) compared to previous years. It hasn't been this low the first 6 months in any year since 2018. 17 death cases and 22 injured during January-June.
The improvement comes from visitation zones and more police men and the possibility to be able to listen to mobile phone traffic and to read text messages.
Happy smiles? No. Sweden still have more of this shit than Norway, Denmark, Finland and Iceland together!
But here comes the frightening part, the real frightening part. It has now been revealed the police have done so much in the background you get scared of the dark thinking about it!
More than 200 shootings and bomb explosions have been stopped by the police in just a year. It means several hundreds or including the bombs even thousands of potential new deaths.
My God! We were already somewhere at the bottom of statistics with 17 in six months. But with thousands in a year we wouldn't even have any competition.
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 20, 2024 22:44:21 GMT
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 20, 2024 22:49:09 GMT
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Post by musik on Aug 8, 2024 12:16:34 GMT
Sweden have gone from some shootings/explosions per week to 1-3 per day just now. 3 shootings in around Stockholm yesterday within just an hour.
Denmark are sending police forces to help us out.
Norway are in trouble since parts of the Swedish gang criminality spreads over to Norway. Our Swedish visiting zones have helped us.
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