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Post by emretezzy on Aug 16, 2024 8:44:48 GMT
Is this a genuine post? Really? Fair play if that’s what you think. Personally I don’t think he’s good enough for a championship team that wants to be in the playoff mix and ‘no nonsense’ can also be viewed as ‘limited ability’ We win more when he plays. Bosun might be the upgrade we've been looking for. From his videos though he seems to be a ball carrier. I personally think we might see Burger leave. Thompson Moran Bosun Or if Bosun can play 6 Bosun Moran Burger Thompson, Laurent and Sidibe on the bench. Pearson, Johnson, Baker all gone. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 16, 2024 8:45:51 GMT
Thompson should be the first midfielder on the team sheet and the rest picked around him Hes been pivotal to our upturn in form at the and of last season and last Saturday….problem on here is he’s not a flashy name with a flashy price tag Every good and successful team has a no frills/nonsense Thompson Can’t see how he keeps the place for long. Player in his final year vs a player you’ve signed for £2M on a 4 year contract. Can’t see Laurent getting picked for long ahead of Burger for similar reasons. Everything on absolute merit sounds great but you still have to keep an eye on what effect your decisions have on asset values. |
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Post by BuzzB on Aug 16, 2024 8:48:01 GMT
Thompson should be the first midfielder on the team sheet and the rest picked around him Hes been pivotal to our upturn in form at the and of last season and last Saturday….problem on here is he’s not a flashy name with a flashy price tag Every good and successful team has a no frills/nonsense Thompson Agreed. I was one, hold my hands up, it was his negativity on the ball (constantly going backwards) that drove me nuts! However, he has come on leaps and bounds, a definate first name on the team sheet. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 16, 2024 8:51:07 GMT
Thompson should be the first midfielder on the team sheet and the rest picked around him Hes been pivotal to our upturn in form at the and of last season and last Saturday….problem on here is he’s not a flashy name with a flashy price tag Every good and successful team has a no frills/nonsense Thompson Can’t see how he keeps the place for long. Player in his final year vs a player you’ve signed for £2M on a 4 year contract. Can’t see Laurent getting picked for long ahead of Burger for similar reasons. Everything on absolute merit sounds great but you still have to keep an eye on what effect your decisions have on asset values. Seriously? No coach is going to consult the club's accountant before deciding on their match day squad - they pick players based on their ability to affect the game, not the balance sheet. |
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Post by jay1610 on Aug 16, 2024 8:52:53 GMT
Thompson should be the first midfielder on the team sheet and the rest picked around him Hes been pivotal to our upturn in form at the and of last season and last Saturday….problem on here is he’s not a flashy name with a flashy price tag Every good and successful team has a no frills/nonsense Thompson It also sends a really shit message if Thompson earns his starting place only to be dropped/replaced when somebody new comes along. Until he’s displaced, he should start. Think it helps that he’s a bit nuts, too. Every team needs someone who’s gunning for the opposition, it raises everyone’s level. |
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Post by werrington on Aug 16, 2024 8:53:00 GMT
Is this a genuine post? Really? Fair play if that’s what you think. Personally I don’t think he’s good enough for a championship team that wants to be in the playoff mix and ‘no nonsense’ can also be viewed as ‘limited ability’ Like jordan Henderson at Liverpool yeah? They could of purchased any midfielder they wanted but he was pivotal |
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 16, 2024 8:53:53 GMT
Quote: apb1.
I'm not suggesting Thompson is brilliant, just that he played well on Saturday, is an in form player and is currently the best player to do that role at the moment in most games. I'm happy for him and I'm happy that we're finally winning games and keeping clean sheets.
[/quote]That's a pretty reasonable assessment. If you'd shown me it three years ago I would have laughed out loud, he was so poor. But he's stuck to the basics and been ok, and if we have to have a player who does nothing exciting but somehow we keep winning games when he plays, then I'll take it. Clearly we hope Lawal or one of the 7352 midfielders we are linked with is an upgrade though, and we shall see.[/quote]
Maybe SS just likes to collect midfielders in the same way that TP liked to find centre halves.
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Post by george2again on Aug 16, 2024 8:54:25 GMT
Can’t see how he keeps the place for long. Player in his final year vs a player you’ve signed for £2M on a 4 year contract. Can’t see Laurent getting picked for long ahead of Burger for similar reasons. Everything on absolute merit sounds great but you still have to keep an eye on what effect your decisions have on asset values. Seriously? No coach is going to consult the club's accountant before deciding on their match day squad - they pick players based on their ability to affect the game, not the balance sheet. Have to disagree. Thompson is neat and tidy but has little effect on a game for me. Almost nothing going forwards. He’s really cheap which will be half the attraction and can fill in at left back. Essential squad player. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2024 9:00:31 GMT
Seriously? No coach is going to consult the club's accountant before deciding on their match day squad - they pick players based on their ability to affect the game, not the balance sheet. Have to disagree. Thompson is neat and tidy but has little effect on a game for me. Almost nothing going forwards. He’s really cheap which will be half the attraction and can fill in at left back. Essential squad player. He was atrocious as a left back which culminated in himself getting sent off. He can play good forward passes but too few and very far between for me. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 16, 2024 9:00:38 GMT
Can’t see how he keeps the place for long. Player in his final year vs a player you’ve signed for £2M on a 4 year contract. Can’t see Laurent getting picked for long ahead of Burger for similar reasons. Everything on absolute merit sounds great but you still have to keep an eye on what effect your decisions have on asset values. Seriously? No coach is going to consult the club's accountant before deciding on their match day squad - they pick players based on their ability to affect the game, not the balance sheet. Selection is influenced by financial matters all the time. Clubs stop playing players who are entitled to an extension triggered by a certain number of appearances, stop playing them to avoid triggering additional fees, stop playing them due to large appearance bonuses, stop playing them in order to encourage them to move on. Actually thinking finance plays no part in selection is extremely naive. |
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Post by apb1 on Aug 16, 2024 9:34:50 GMT
Anyway when's this geezer getting announced? Will be good to have him available even if on bench tomorrow.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 16, 2024 9:36:24 GMT
Seriously? No coach is going to consult the club's accountant before deciding on their match day squad - they pick players based on their ability to affect the game, not the balance sheet. Selection is influenced by financial matters all the time. Clubs stop playing players who are entitled to an extension triggered by a certain number of appearances, stop playing them to avoid triggering additional fees, stop playing them due to large appearance bonuses, stop playing them in order to encourage them to move on. Actually thinking finance plays no part in selection is extremely naive. If a club can't play a player because they can't afford them ( which is what your examples illustrate) then they have fucked up their accounts - a club which has a grip on its finances really shouldn't get itself in that situation in the first place. That is completely different to your original point where you said a coach would pick a player because they are deemed to be an asset on the balance sheet rather than the best player available. If a club did behave like that they have lost the plot and any self respecting manager should walk. To be fair I can think of a recent situation where that actually happened - Ronaldo at Man Utd under Solskear and the first thing Ten Hag did was get rid. You appear to think it is a natural feature of the game - it isn't, its an aberration. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 16, 2024 9:50:13 GMT
Thompson should be the first midfielder on the team sheet and the rest picked around him Hes been pivotal to our upturn in form at the and of last season and last Saturday….problem on here is he’s not a flashy name with a flashy price tag Every good and successful team has a no frills/nonsense Thompson Can’t quite put my finger on it myself but we’re just a better team with him in aren’t we. Mark Hughes kept trying to drop Whelan but ended up coming back to him until he actually sold him so he didn't have the option. We got relegated. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 16, 2024 9:53:51 GMT
Have to disagree. Thompson is neat and tidy but has little effect on a game for me. Almost nothing going forwards. He’s really cheap which will be half the attraction and can fill in at left back. Essential squad player. He was atrocious as a left back which culminated in himself getting sent off. He can play good forward passes but too few and very far between for me. He's a midfielder not a left back. We continually excuse other players for being poor because they are playing out of position. Junior even gets exonerated because he's asked to play a different fullback role to the one to which. he is accustomed. When Thompson plays out of position and makes mistakes it's proof of what a poor player he is? |
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Post by werrington on Aug 16, 2024 10:16:04 GMT
Can’t quite put my finger on it myself but we’re just a better team with him in aren’t we. Mark Hughes kept trying to drop Whelan but ended up coming back to him until he actually sold him so he didn't have the option. We got relegated. No he didn’t It was under Mark Hughes when he really excelled |
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 16, 2024 10:54:22 GMT
Mark Hughes kept trying to drop Whelan but ended up coming back to him until he actually sold him so he didn't have the option. We got relegated. No he didn’t It was under Mark Hughes when he really excelled The last season Hughes definitely tried to play without him as first choice but he always worked his way back into the team. |
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 16, 2024 10:54:45 GMT
How's a thread about an attacking midfielder signing on loan descended in to a lengthy discussion about Thompson haha
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Aug 16, 2024 10:58:57 GMT
Has Moran turned up yet for his medical?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 16, 2024 11:04:27 GMT
Has Moran turned up yet for his medical? Frase says so, but would've thought it would have had to start earlier than that if we wanted to get it sorted to get him involved tomorrow? |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Aug 16, 2024 11:08:11 GMT
Has Moran turned up yet for his medical? Frase says so, but would've thought it would have had to start earlier than that if we wanted to get it sorted to get him involved tomorrow? Not sure how long they’d usually take. I’d imagine if the paperwork’s done it doesn’t matter if medicals after. |
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Post by kickfortouch on Aug 16, 2024 11:14:22 GMT
Schumacher mentioned him (not by name) hopefully being in the squad for tomorrow in his interview so I’d imagine it’ll be almost sorted.
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Post by mattythestokie on Aug 16, 2024 11:18:50 GMT
Frase says so, but would've thought it would have had to start earlier than that if we wanted to get it sorted to get him involved tomorrow? Not sure how long they’d usually take. I’d imagine if the paperwork’s done it doesn’t matter if medicals after. You wouldn’t do a medical after you’ve signed the paperwork though would you? |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 16, 2024 11:21:20 GMT
Is this a genuine post? Really? Fair play if that’s what you think. Personally I don’t think he’s good enough for a championship team that wants to be in the playoff mix and ‘no nonsense’ can also be viewed as ‘limited ability’ Like jordan Henderson at Liverpool yeah? They could of purchased any midfielder they wanted but he was pivotal Henderson wasn't pivotal, Alison, Salah, Trent, Robertson, Firmino, Winaldum. Van Dijk were all more important than him. Henderson' smnain job was to fill in when Trent went forward. We have never finished in the top half of the table while Thompson has been here, the idea he has suddenly become indispensable is plain daft. He is not quick, very one footed, no long passing range, poor tackler, creates very little. Pearson miles ahead, hopefully the new lad too. Useful, cheap squad player but never a regular starter. Doesn't start for Ireland and they are awful currently. |
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Post by stantheman on Aug 16, 2024 11:25:13 GMT
Thompson should be the first midfielder on the team sheet and the rest picked around him Hes been pivotal to our upturn in form at the and of last season and last Saturday….problem on here is he’s not a flashy name with a flashy price tag Every good and successful team has a no frills/nonsense Thompson 100% correct. Cost us comparatively little, won't be on a huge wage and can play in several positions. 1st name on my teamsheet |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 16, 2024 11:28:49 GMT
Is this a genuine post? Really? Fair play if that’s what you think. Personally I don’t think he’s good enough for a championship team that wants to be in the playoff mix and ‘no nonsense’ can also be viewed as ‘limited ability’ Like jordan Henderson at Liverpool yeah? They could of purchased any midfielder they wanted but he was pivotal No not at all. Jordan Henderson is/was a top class player. |
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Aug 16, 2024 11:52:10 GMT
Like jordan Henderson at Liverpool yeah? They could of purchased any midfielder they wanted but he was pivotal Henderson wasn't pivotal, Alison, Salah, Trent, Robertson, Firmino, Winaldum. Van Dijk were all more important than him. Henderson' smnain job was to fill in when Trent went forward. We have never finished in the top half of the table while Thompson has been here, the idea he has suddenly become indispensable is plain daft. He is not quick, very one footed, no long passing range, poor tackler, creates very little. Pearson miles ahead, hopefully the new lad too. Useful, cheap squad player but never a regular starter. Doesn't start for Ireland and they are awful currently. I think you're really understating the role Henderson played in that Liverpool team. And going off that flawed logic, Pearson must be crap as well because we've never finished in the top half since he's been here either. |
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 16, 2024 11:54:41 GMT
Should be done by your lunchtime to enable him to travel to Watford.
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Post by onepara on Aug 16, 2024 11:57:58 GMT
In our system his job is to initiate the play by linking defence and midfield. First half they sat off and we were fine as soon as they squeezed we couldn’t get on the ball and they clearly targeted Thompson. His problem is he is so left footed they were able to close his options off. He isn’t great positionally, many of his yellows come from recovery tackles as he is wrong side. Useful squad player but not a starter in an ambitious team. Pearson does every facet better than him, except getting booked when they are equivalently bad. Pearson clearly played with an injury last year but is a step up Find myself agreeing with both these posts Exactly how I see it. Thompson lets the others play, by winning the ball for them. He's very under-rated on here. |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 16, 2024 12:11:14 GMT
Find myself agreeing with both these posts Exactly how I see it. Thompson lets the others play, by winning the ball for them. He's very under-rated on here. Josh Laurent has better defensive statistics. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 16, 2024 12:48:53 GMT
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