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Post by Milkie on Apr 20, 2023 11:02:14 GMT
With it widely reported that the FFP shackles are coming off, what is your expectation of spending over the next 2 windows:
Summer window - 10 million a couple of key note signings from the loanees and hopefully an up and coming star or 2
Free transfers - 5 million spent on signing on fees and wages for some more established freebies, hopefully those with a point to prove not last pay check journeymen
Loans- 3-5 million - hopefully we will demonstrate our ambition with having some of the loans with an obligation to buy on promotion or at least an option to buy.
Summer spend £18-20 million
Winter - 5-10 million subject to where we are in the league, hopefully turn a loan or 2 into permanent deals and enough in the coffers for a morale boosting signing
Free transfers - nil
Loans - 1-2 million - an opportunity to freshen up and bolster the squad if we have turned a couple permanent
Winter spend 6-12 million
Total spend £ 24 to 32 million
Big question is that level realistic ? would much less make us competitive?
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Apr 20, 2023 11:04:09 GMT
Think I saw Expectation of the Dong supporting World of Twist back in '87.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 20, 2023 11:13:28 GMT
We'll spend £14.6 million
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Post by citynickscfc on Apr 20, 2023 11:14:45 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't sign any of our current loanees and started next season behind 'schedule'. I've not known a team with 10+ new players gel instantly ever and do really well. So yeah.... Let's see
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 20, 2023 11:15:13 GMT
We could and should spend as much or as little as it takes to get exactly what we need.
No more trolley dashes please.
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Post by northstaffycher on Apr 20, 2023 11:44:20 GMT
Would that be Long Dong Silver?! Haha, anyone remember him? Also, King Dong.  |
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 20, 2023 11:44:26 GMT
Spot on the last poster, just because we have potentially more money this window, it should not stop us from spending wisely and not paying over the odds for very average players. Recruitment must be spot on this window.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 20, 2023 11:53:00 GMT
With it widely reported that the FFP shackles are coming off, what is your expectation of spending over the next 2 windows: Summer window - 10 million a couple of key note signings from the loanees and hopefully an up and coming star or 2 Free transfers - 5 million spent on signing on fees and wages for some more established freebies, hopefully those with a point to prove not last pay check journeymen Loans- 3-5 million - hopefully we will demonstrate our ambition with having some of the loans with an obligation to buy on promotion or at least an option to buy. Summer spend £18-20 million Winter - 5-10 million subject to where we are in the league, hopefully turn a loan or 2 into permanent deals and enough in the coffers for a morale boosting signing Free transfers - nil Loans - 1-2 million - an opportunity to freshen up and bolster the squad if we have turned a couple permanent Winter spend 6-12 million Total spend £ 24 to 32 million Big question is that level realistic ? would much less make us competitive? I think we’ll be in for about 10-15 million total. The majority will be spent on 3-4 key players (DM, GK, Target Man), everything else will be signing on fees and loans. We will likely lose a lot more money than we generate and have to factor that in to the sale of Souttar. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Apr 20, 2023 11:57:50 GMT
Cognisant of the fact the shackles are coming off only in the sense we are out of the woods regarding a point deduction and until the regulations chase we can still only lose a maximum of 39 million over 3 years (down from 61 when we came down) I think a lot of people are going to be underwhelmed at the money we spend. I can't see anything over a figure like £12 million net. Which is obviously substantially more than in recent year but in the context of how many we need in the squad it's actually not that much.
If we spend 32 million in a year then boy we better make good use of it because we'd be playing with fire without a promotion. No ground sale to bail us out this time and only a couple of real assets left to sell.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 20, 2023 12:02:42 GMT
I read these figures and it worries me that people don't seem to have learned any lessons.
My overriding thought reading the OP is "points deduction".
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Post by werrington on Apr 20, 2023 12:14:01 GMT
It’s about buying the right player not the expensive one
Give me a winger from accrington costing £100k over a out of favour premiership winger costing £8m
We need to avoid the same mistakes
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Post by cheadlepotter on Apr 20, 2023 12:22:08 GMT
We’ll sign Sterling permanently and make a massive deal out of it, then late August spend most of our budget on Ashley Barnes and scrape a few loanees together.
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 20, 2023 12:23:47 GMT
It’s about buying the right player not the expensive one Give me a winger from accrington costing £100k over a out of favour premiership winger hosting £8m We need to avoid the same mistakes You mean the likes of Alfie Doughty and Rabbi Montando? |
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Post by march4 on Apr 20, 2023 12:24:54 GMT
Whatever we spend, we know with confidence we have a manager who knows what he’s doing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 20, 2023 13:26:53 GMT
Whatever we spend, we know with confidence we have a manager who knows what he’s doing. Do we? Why's that then? It's one of the many unknowns. He's shown a glimpse that he knows what he's doing. But so far there's more negatives than positives. Ultimately everything is up in the air. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2023 13:49:27 GMT
We need to decide what sort of player we are trying to bring in first.
There will be exceptions , goal keeper obviously and I would say CDM . I wouldn't describe Ben Pearson as being quick across the deck, but he is quick thinking, alert, determined and good on the ball . He's been excellent for us.
Nevertheless in general we need players who are quick thinking, good on the ball and good athletes ... Hoever and wilmot at Stoke , Akpom at Boro , adebayo at Luton , Benson at Burnley and surprisingly jack Clarke at Sunderland ( didn't see that one coming!) . That kind of player.
Everyone wants these players so not easy getting them in , but we need more than two.
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Apr 20, 2023 13:52:51 GMT
With it widely reported that the FFP shackles are coming off, what is your expectation of spending over the next 2 windows: Summer window - 10 million a couple of key note signings from the loanees and hopefully an up and coming star or 2 Free transfers - 5 million spent on signing on fees and wages for some more established freebies, hopefully those with a point to prove not last pay check journeymen Loans- 3-5 million - hopefully we will demonstrate our ambition with having some of the loans with an obligation to buy on promotion or at least an option to buy. Summer spend £18-20 million Winter - 5-10 million subject to where we are in the league, hopefully turn a loan or 2 into permanent deals and enough in the coffers for a morale boosting signing Free transfers - nil Loans - 1-2 million - an opportunity to freshen up and bolster the squad if we have turned a couple permanent Winter spend 6-12 million Total spend £ 24 to 32 million Big question is that level realistic ? would much less make us competitive? I'd have look at what Luton and to a lesser extent, Millwall have done. They've put competitive squads together, without having to blow wads of cash. My worry with a huge warchest is that we get it wrong again, and end up spending £20m to finish below teams who have found another way to operate. I'm also not sure who people think we're going to be buying with all this cash - I think some are hoping for PL-quality players. I just don't see why they'd come to a beige, middling, Championship club who have been in the doldrums for 6 years. We're hardly a 'project' are we?? |
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Post by wakeypotter on Apr 20, 2023 14:47:14 GMT
I always look at what Luton have done
I mean it’s incredible to where they are on a shoestring.
So I can be done without throwing the money about.
It’s a matter of getting the right character
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Post by withnall on Apr 20, 2023 14:49:02 GMT
When the chastity belt is finally unlocked, I expect that the thud of the dong hitting the floor will be reported as a magnitude 7 earthquake in Indonesia.
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Post by Milkie on Apr 20, 2023 14:51:49 GMT
I read these figures and it worries me that people don't seem to have learned any lessons. My overriding thought reading the OP is "points deduction". Hence, the question is it realistic? is is realistic to spend that much, and if we spend much less is it realistic to expect a dramatic turn around in fortunes. The general consensus on the thread thus far, is low spending, high quality recruitment something we have struggled with for a long time, we havn’t picked up an Ollie Watkins or Ivan Toney since Ricardo , something we need to do consistently to have any chance with a low spending model |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Apr 20, 2023 14:54:54 GMT
I always look at what Luton have done I mean it’s incredible to where they are on a shoestring. So I can be done without throwing the money about. It’s a matter of getting the right character I wanted us to go after Morris when he was leaving Barnsley but even I'm surprised by what he's done. Is it 19 or 20 goals he's scored. We could have picked him up for a song. And they brought in Woodrow too. Along with Adebayo, those three knock our front three into a cocked hat! But...it proves it can be done. Come on down Paul Mullin! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 20, 2023 15:03:03 GMT
I read these figures and it worries me that people don't seem to have learned any lessons. My overriding thought reading the OP is "points deduction". Hence, the question is it realistic? is is realistic to spend that much, and if we spend much less is it realistic to expect a dramatic turn around in fortunes. The general consensus on the thread thus far, is low spending, high quality recruitment something we have struggled with for a long time, we havn’t picked up an Ollie Watkins or Ivan Toney since Ricardo , something we need to do consistently to have any chance with a low spending model I don't think it is but I have a suspicion it will happen. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 20, 2023 15:38:44 GMT
We'll probably spend more on agents fees than on players!
Is it really wise to go around shouting we have a more than competitive budget. I bet Daniel Levy has already alerted his transfer team.... 😬
I really hope we do well but.....
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 20, 2023 15:43:35 GMT
Think I saw Expectation of the Dong supporting World of Twist back in '87. It’s an early Genesis album I think |
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Post by robrigo on Apr 20, 2023 15:53:38 GMT
Whilst I can’t wait for this season to end and excited about the summer, I’m also extremely apprehensive. This is a major reset and there’s an awful lot of work to do in rebuilding this squad.
We are talking ten new players at the minimum and that is extensive rebuilding at 10. We’ll probably sign more than that.
Getting the recruitment right is imperative to the future of the club. Getting that amount of players to gel into a cohesive team to mount a promotion challenge is some ask. But, a promotion challenge is what we should expect. I’m sick of finishing in the bottom half and at my wits end following the last six seasons.
Excited yes. Apprehensive definitely. Bring it on!
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 20, 2023 16:07:13 GMT
I think we all love a signing and the expectation and anticipation it brings, yet that is tempered with the worry we get it all wrong again. I don't think we will, but you never know..It will be a very interesting summer ahead.
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Post by mr on Apr 20, 2023 16:16:23 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't sign any of our current loanees and started next season behind 'schedule'. I've not known a team with 10+ new players gel instantly ever and do really well. So yeah.... Let's see Burnley have done alright |
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Post by nott1 on Apr 20, 2023 16:46:14 GMT
The shackles might be off but is the wallet loaded and ready?
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Post by dirtclod on Apr 20, 2023 16:56:22 GMT
Unshackled Dong
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Post by franklin on Apr 20, 2023 16:57:40 GMT
The best way to spend some of the money is to hire a Barrister and challenge FFP in the courts just like Bosman did in his case to make the required changes.
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