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Post by meggeth on Apr 6, 2023 19:16:07 GMT
6 games left, 5 of the teams we have to play are below us, the other is west brom!
Will our good form continue to the end, or will we run out of steam? Surely we must expect a decent haul from the remaining games?
I'm going for 10th!
EDIT! Oops, missed Watford (above us at the moment), 7 games then.
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Post by banksy1art on Apr 6, 2023 19:40:07 GMT
6th
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 20:04:04 GMT
6 games left, 5 of the teams we have to play are below us, the other is west brom! Will our good form continue to the end, or will we run out of steam? Surely we must expect a decent haul from the remaining games? I'm going for 10th! 7 games left but I'm also saying 10th.
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Post by scfc75 on Apr 6, 2023 20:17:49 GMT
11th
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Post by rushy on Apr 6, 2023 20:20:30 GMT
8th
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Post by st3mark on Apr 6, 2023 20:33:04 GMT
There are 7 games left, Watford are also above us as well as wba.
4 months ago I looked at the fixtures and expected to lose most games.
I look at the remaining 7 fixtures now and could see us winning all 7.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 21:00:15 GMT
There are 7 games left, Watford are also above us as well as wba. 4 months ago I looked at the fixtures and expected to lose most games. I look at the remaining 7 fixtures now and could see us winning all 7. We won't win all 7, it's not going to happen.
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Post by st3mark on Apr 6, 2023 21:03:51 GMT
There are 7 games left, Watford are also above us as well as wba. 4 months ago I looked at the fixtures and expected to lose most games. I look at the remaining 7 fixtures now and could see us winning all 7. We won't win all 7, it's not going to happen. Its highly unlikely. But I don't fear any of the fixtures.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 6, 2023 22:13:36 GMT
12th on 62
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Post by dirtclod on Apr 7, 2023 0:28:38 GMT
Sticking with 11th.
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Post by Sfance on Apr 7, 2023 1:10:08 GMT
No idea, but just a tiny bit excited! If we beat Bristol convincingly this board is going to go into hyper drive.
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Post by jokker on Apr 7, 2023 1:57:45 GMT
The most we can hope for is not losing the last seven. On current form I'd say 5 wins, 2 draws. On Stoke's traditional bent for shooting themselves in the foot I'd say 2 eins, 5 draws-. Still if we stay unbeaten that'll be 13 matches unbeaten in a row. That's quite a momentum to build on. What if we went 13 games unbeaten in next season? Won't matter of course if we then lose the next 13.
If we finish 12th we can always say we've progressed and did the right thing getting rid of O'Neill.
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Post by hotterpotter on Apr 7, 2023 5:31:28 GMT
Ninth
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Apr 7, 2023 6:41:41 GMT
Somewhere between 10th and 12th - so 11th.
Because of the timing of the appointment and the fact that Neil is so different to O'Neil in terms of how he sets up his teams I always felt we'd written off this season as a promotion challenge and given how much a challenge converting the team to Neil's preferred way of playing proved to be that's not a bad outcome.
It's good that we are finishing the season so well but given the size of the overhaul in the summer I'm not sure it's a given we will take this form into next season - it very much depends on how quickly the new squad gels. I'm not as optimistic as most seem to be about retaining the services of the loanees - I think we might get one and two would be a bonus. The more tangible reason for being optimistic is that it's clear Neil has an eye for a player and if given the right material he can put together a side capable of a genuine promotion challenge. He just needs time.
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Post by Silkystoke on Apr 7, 2023 6:49:04 GMT
Gonna say 9th.. no 10thโฆ.. fuck it 8th..!!! No 9th.. 9th
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 7, 2023 7:13:39 GMT
10th
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Post by stokecitytalke on Apr 7, 2023 7:42:12 GMT
9th
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Post by apb1 on Apr 7, 2023 8:01:54 GMT
9th unless we beat WBA in which case 8th
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Post by deeside2 on Apr 7, 2023 8:03:03 GMT
10th
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 7, 2023 8:05:13 GMT
10th
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Apr 7, 2023 8:20:35 GMT
I think we'll get a good few wins but we won't win every game as some think, this is Stoke we are talking about. I reckon we will finish the season quite strongly though and finish in ninth place.
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Post by lordb on Apr 7, 2023 8:22:53 GMT
Vicarage Road
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Post by raythesailor on Apr 7, 2023 8:26:33 GMT
Climbing up the table could be quite laborious with the clubs above us playing steadily as well. However this is the Championship and all sorts of results can happen and hopefully some of them will be playing each other. Our final position is difficult to predict, stating the obvious, we just need to carry on getting results and hope. I would say between 8 & 10.
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Apr 7, 2023 8:27:35 GMT
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 7, 2023 8:29:15 GMT
Somewhere between 10th and 12th - so 11th. Because of the timing of the appointment and the fact that Neil is so different to O'Neil in terms of how he sets up his teams I always felt we'd written off this season as a promotion challenge and given how much a challenge converting the team to Neil's preferred way of playing proved to be that's not a bad outcome. It's good that we are finishing the season so well but given the size of the overhaul in the summer I'm not sure it's a given we will take this form into next season - it very much depends on how quickly the new squad gels. I'm not as optimistic as most seem to be about retaining the services of the loanees - I think we might get one and two would be a bonus. The more tangible reason for being optimistic is that it's clear Neil has an eye for a player and if given the right material he can put together a side capable of a genuine promotion challenge. He just needs time. Pretty much where I am. As enjoyable as this all is, it could prove entirely pointless in the grand scheme of things. Very happy to see us finally doing well and producing, but I think itโs very much a here and now type run of form based heavily on the loan signings. We just have to hope we recruit as well as did in January over the summer, but it wonโt be easy to replace what weโll lose. 10th on 66 points starting with another 3 today.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Apr 7, 2023 9:14:04 GMT
The most we can hope for is not losing the last seven. On current form I'd say 5 wins, 2 draws. On Stoke's traditional bent for shooting themselves in the foot I'd say 2 eins, 5 draws-. Still if we stay unbeaten that'll be 13 matches unbeaten in a row. That's quite a momentum to build on. What if we went 13 games unbeaten in next season? Won't matter of course if we then lose the next 13. If we finish 12th we can always say we've progressed and did the right thing getting rid of O'Neill. We can say we did the right thing anyway. It's clear as day that it's a million times better than when O'Neill was in charge. We actually go out to win every game which is sort of the idea of football. We have a system and the players know their roles in the team which for quite a long time under O'Neill they did not. So I'd say we definitely did the right thing wether we finish higher than last year or not.
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Post by jokker on Apr 7, 2023 9:38:14 GMT
The most we can hope for is not losing the last seven. On current form I'd say 5 wins, 2 draws. On Stoke's traditional bent for shooting themselves in the foot I'd say 2 eins, 5 draws-. Still if we stay unbeaten that'll be 13 matches unbeaten in a row. That's quite a momentum to build on. What if we went 13 games unbeaten in next season? Won't matter of course if we then lose the next 13. If we finish 12th we can always say we've progressed and did the right thing getting rid of O'Neill. We can say we did the right thing anyway. It's clear as day that it's a million times better than when O'Neill was in charge. We actually go out to win every game which is sort of the idea of football. We have a system and the players know their roles in the team which for quite a long time under O'Neill they did not. So I'd say we definitely did the right thing wether we finish higher than last year or not. I was being slightly sarcastic by pointing at 12th. It doesn't really matter whether we finish 7th or 17th, what matters is that we're not courting trouble by being in the relegation zone and we're also not courting trouble by chasing a promotion spot that we're simply not ready for. Neil is having his late bounce period now. Before he was having a lot of his near namesake's inconsistency: not very bad, not very good, just plain ordinary stuff. We're still to see what happens if we go through a bad patch. I don't think it's "clear as day that it's a million times better". You only have to go back a few pages in the Neil thread and there was a great deal of despondency and resignation, and the words "nothing's changed since O'Neill" were uttered on a frequent bassis. Now we've not lost for six games, and that's great, but viewed over over a season of 41 games that's not a lot.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 7, 2023 9:45:11 GMT
10th.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 7, 2023 9:57:42 GMT
We can say we did the right thing anyway. It's clear as day that it's a million times better than when O'Neill was in charge. We actually go out to win every game which is sort of the idea of football. We have a system and the players know their roles in the team which for quite a long time under O'Neill they did not. So I'd say we definitely did the right thing wether we finish higher than last year or not. I was being slightly sarcastic by pointing at 12th. It doesn't really matter whether we finish 7th or 17th, what matters is that we're not courting trouble by being in the relegation zone and we're also not courting trouble by chasing a promotion spot that we're simply not ready for. Neil is having his late bounce period now. Before he was having a lot of his near namesake's inconsistency: not very bad, not very good, just plain ordinary stuff. We're still to see what happens if we go through a bad patch. I don't think it's "clear as day that it's a million times better". You only have to go back a few pages in the Neil thread and there was a great deal of despondency and resignation, and the words "nothing's changed since O'Neill" were uttered on a frequent bassis. Now we've not lost for six games, and that's great, but viewed over over a season of 41 games that's not a lot. It clearly does matter where we finish and how we finish. Neil has admitted as much in a recent interview/presser. If we can continue the current form with the players (and fans) in a happy place a 7th place finish will make ST4 a much more inviting place over the summer with the real prospect of a promotion push next season. If we take our foot of the gas and limp to the end of the season in 17th the last 6 games are meaningless and that feelgood factor dissipates and players are likely to look elsewhere for next season. Keep the pedal to the metal and finish as high as possible.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Apr 7, 2023 10:39:51 GMT
We can say we did the right thing anyway. It's clear as day that it's a million times better than when O'Neill was in charge. We actually go out to win every game which is sort of the idea of football. We have a system and the players know their roles in the team which for quite a long time under O'Neill they did not. So I'd say we definitely did the right thing wether we finish higher than last year or not. I was being slightly sarcastic by pointing at 12th. It doesn't really matter whether we finish 7th or 17th, what matters is that we're not courting trouble by being in the relegation zone and we're also not courting trouble by chasing a promotion spot that we're simply not ready for. Neil is having his late bounce period now. Before he was having a lot of his near namesake's inconsistency: not very bad, not very good, just plain ordinary stuff. We're still to see what happens if we go through a bad patch. I don't think it's "clear as day that it's a million times better". You only have to go back a few pages in the Neil thread and there was a great deal of despondency and resignation, and the words "nothing's changed since O'Neill" were uttered on a frequent bassis. Now we've not lost for six games, and that's great, but viewed over over a season of 41 games that's not a lot. Oh it is a million times better than under O'Neill. The comments you refer to are from people who wanted us to win every game straight away which was never going to happen with the way MON left the team. As soon as Neil got some of his players in during the January window and got them settled into how he wanted the team to play things have improved dramatically. We had zero plan of how we wanted to play or setup with MON in charge and most games a draw was about all we could expect to get. Contrast that to now where every game we go out there I can see us really hammering the opposition. That in my eyes is a million times better and I'd rather see us try to win every game even if we don't than to watch that boring shite we had to suffer with MON.
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