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Post by redditchstokiepete on Apr 3, 2023 9:57:26 GMT
Have you ever seen so many people in yellow hi viz jackets around and in ground as was at Coventry on Saturday.
All little Hitlers š”
The worst one was at HT after going to Loo we was not allowed to go back up to our seats!! Asked why and they said H & S reasons.
So I had to go up side stairs as I was sat in the middle and make my way across all the people happily sat down at HT to get back to my seat.
After we had to walk half a mile the wrong way to get back to our car, again as Stewards blocked our way š¤¬
Great result for us 0-4 but
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2023 10:08:21 GMT
The one way system they were operating where you could only go up a certain set of steps and down others was absurd, borderline dangerous.
There was a poor row infront of us in block 6 that was constantly being interrupted by streams of people coming in and trying to get to the next block.
Thankfully the hordes of pissed up Stokies brought some sense to the occasion at 2.55 and broke through the blocked entrance.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2023 10:12:34 GMT
I worked at a school once and the school dinner ladies were told that from now on they have to wear yellow hi Viz vests ( health and safety!)
And it was a primary school!
Apparently being 3 foot taller than everybody else in the dining room wasn't distinguishing enough. They clearly needed to wear hi Viz vests as well .
Shame on the teachers and head to not realise this and need a health and safety exec from the council, to point out the urgency of rectifying their wild disregard to the safety of the children.
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Post by iglugluk on Apr 3, 2023 10:24:37 GMT
We live in a hyper regulated society nowadays and it's sickening both in it's effect and also the power it's application gives to the high viz wearing 'jumped up little Hitler' type mentalities that psychologically thrive as a result of it's effects.
There are numerous examples of this modern sickness everywhere one chooses to go.
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Post by westlandstokie on Apr 3, 2023 10:34:15 GMT
We live in a hyper regulated society nowadays and it's sickening both in it's effect and also the power it's application gives to the high viz wearing 'jumped up little Hitler' type mentalities that psychologically thrive as a result of it's effects. There are numerous examples of this mentality everywhere one chooses to go. 100% agreeā¦Iāve always had a problem with authority ( although Iāve never been in trouble with the Police) and I see it as a challenge when Iām told I canāt do something by someoneā¦usually in a hi viz jacket. I listen to what they have to sayā¦usually nod to them and say ok then do exactly what I like not what Iām toldā¦I canāt help it as Iāve always been the same. The looks on their faces when you ignore them is pricelessā¦and 90% of the time it confuses them so much they donāt know/arenāt trained how to reactā¦so they do nothing. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2023 10:37:35 GMT
Was interesting when hundreds of people, including a fair few hooligans turned up for the euros final v Italy without tickets.
The hi Viz wearing stewards, dropped their little Hitler thing like a hot potato, ditched their hi Viz vests, blended into the crowd and fxcked off .
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Post by spiderpuss on Apr 3, 2023 10:50:19 GMT
It was ridiculous and meant fans had to go miles out of their way, funnelling everyone down a narrow corridor. H&E where it has dangerous side effects, completely idiotic and should be stopped.
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 3, 2023 11:00:02 GMT
Speaking as a health and safety manager (a realistic one) the base guideline should always be so far as is reasonably practicable. Therefore if it creates more danger or has no general benefits then carry on as before. Obviously somebody has done a risk assessment and looked into it way too much.
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Post by flea79 on Apr 3, 2023 14:18:22 GMT
The one way system they were operating where you could only go up a certain set of steps and down others was absurd, borderline dangerous. There was a poor row infront of us in block 6 that was constantly being interrupted by streams of people coming in and trying to get to the next block. Thankfully the hordes of pissed up Stokies brought some sense to the occasion at 2.55 and broke through the blocked entrance. a poor row? were they in raggedy clothes? |
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Post by marylandstoke on Apr 3, 2023 19:11:22 GMT
We live in a hyper regulated society nowadays and it's sickening both in it's effect and also the power it's application gives to the high viz wearing 'jumped up little Hitler' type mentalities that psychologically thrive as a result of it's effects. There are numerous examples of this mentality everywhere one chooses to go. 100% agreeā¦Iāve always had a problem with authority ( although Iāve never been in trouble with the Police) and I see it as a challenge when Iām told I canāt do something by someoneā¦usually in a hi viz jacket. I listen to what they have to sayā¦usually nod to them and say ok then do exactly what I like not what Iām toldā¦I canāt help it as Iāve always been the same. The looks on their faces when you ignore them is pricelessā¦and 90% of the time it confuses them so much they donāt know/arenāt trained how to reactā¦so they do nothing. |
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Post by ashleyscfc on Apr 3, 2023 21:28:46 GMT
It was appalling, how on earth it could be allowed given they were intentionally crushing fans together. That wasnāt how the stadium was designed to be used and the single at the top of the stairs was really struggling
Another shambles
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Post by GarySCFC on Apr 3, 2023 21:40:34 GMT
It was bloody dreadful. How dare we use a gangway for the purpose it was designed for. Absolutely no reason for people to use a one way system. Mine and my boy's seat was right next to a gangway but was told to go all the way around.
How's about carrying hot drinks all along a row and potentially spilling onto some poor soul.
H and S gone mad.
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Post by wakeypotter on Apr 5, 2023 5:38:58 GMT
Have you ever seen so many people in yellow hi viz jackets around and in ground as was at Coventry on Saturday. All little Hitlers š” The worst one was at HT after going to Loo we was not allowed to go back up to our seats!! Asked why and they said H & S reasons. So I had to go up side stairs as I was sat in the middle and make my way across all the people happily sat down at HT to get back to my seat. After we had to walk half a mile the wrong way to get back to our car, again as Stewards blocked our way š¤¬ Great result for us 0-4 but Yeh my son said same at half time. Also when we went to get our seat before start of game we couldnāt use our entrance think it was block 8 and had to go to 7, then when passing where we should have come in there was nothing stopping us using block 8 apart from 2 little hitlers. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 5, 2023 7:07:40 GMT
On a ship I served in RN we had a sign on the engineering tech office door that readā¦ā¦"Health & Safety are those types who turn up, after the battle is won and warriors exhausted, to stab them in the back!ā
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Post by Brist_AL on Apr 5, 2023 7:26:05 GMT
H&S in the UK is bonkers at times.
I went to so a job on an RAF base and the soldiers guarding the entrance were armed and in full camouflage gear. On top of it they wore hi-vis waistcoat. On being stopped I was laughing at them asking if they wanted to be aeen or not?
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Post by nott1 on Apr 5, 2023 8:13:38 GMT
The one way system they were operating where you could only go up a certain set of steps and down others was absurd, borderline dangerous. There was a poor row infront of us in block 6 that was constantly being interrupted by streams of people coming in and trying to get to the next block. Thankfully the hordes of pissed up Stokies brought some sense to the occasion at 2.55 and broke through the blocked entrance. What a sad statement "hordes of pissed up Stokies" is! Just pathetic they are. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 8:57:25 GMT
The one way system they were operating where you could only go up a certain set of steps and down others was absurd, borderline dangerous. There was a poor row infront of us in block 6 that was constantly being interrupted by streams of people coming in and trying to get to the next block. Thankfully the hordes of pissed up Stokies brought some sense to the occasion at 2.55 and broke through the blocked entrance. What a sad statement "hordes of pissed up Stokies" is! Just pathetic they are. What's sad is that it needed them to make an unsafe situation more safe! |
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Post by nott1 on Apr 5, 2023 9:01:55 GMT
What a sad statement "hordes of pissed up Stokies" is! Just pathetic they are. What's sad is that it needed them to make an unsafe situation more safe! Getting pissed does not help theirs or anyone elses safety either! |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 5, 2023 9:26:41 GMT
For certain if you want to look important and never be challenged just wear a high viz jacket, white bump hat and carry a clip board. Youāre safe.
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Apr 5, 2023 10:17:34 GMT
Have you ever seen so many people in yellow hi viz jackets around and in ground as was at Coventry on Saturday. All little Hitlers š” The worst one was at HT after going to Loo we was not allowed to go back up to our seats!! Asked why and they said H & S reasons. So I had to go up side stairs as I was sat in the middle and make my way across all the people happily sat down at HT to get back to my seat. After we had to walk half a mile the wrong way to get back to our car, again as Stewards blocked our way š¤¬ Great result for us 0-4 but Yeh my son said same at half time. Also when we went to get our seat before start of game we couldnāt use our entrance think it was block 8 and had to go to 7, then when passing where we should have come in there was nothing stopping us using block 8 apart from 2 little hitlers. Same at bet 365 in the south stand, i sit block 36 but it is easier to go up block 37 steps as my seat is about 4 seats in from the steps of block 37 but they will not let you as your ticket says 36 so have to disturb the whole row to get to my seat tried explaining this but they won't have it, so i just go in now along one of the empty front rows and walk up block 37 steps just no need for it . |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Apr 5, 2023 10:26:18 GMT
What's sad is that it needed them to make an unsafe situation more safe! Getting pissed does not help theirs or anyone elses safety either! Oh dear we have an angel amongst us. |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Apr 6, 2023 13:03:18 GMT
Good afternoon Jodie
I attended the above game last Saturday with my daughter. We had seats in T8.
When entering the seating deck we, along with many other supporters, were prevented by stewards from going up the stairway closest to our seats, and required to go up the stairway at the end of the stand. On arrival at the seating deck, there was no lateral gangway ( because obviously the stadium was not designed with the intention that our seats should be accessed via that stairway), with the consequence that we had to walk along a whole row of seats, requiring the spectators already in those seats to repeatedly stand up. This was inconvenient both for them and for us. It also increased the risk of spectators who were carrying hot drinks spilling them.
There seemed no obvious reason for this, particularly since the stairway had a rail down the middle, so that it would be easy to operate a "keep left" system to separate those going up from those going down. Stewards simply said "that's our instructions" and in some cases made it clear that they sympathised with spectators who were angry with them about this. If there is a good reason which wasn't apparent, then at the very least the stewards should be briefed by the person giving them this instruction, so that they can explain it to the spectators.
As kick-off approached and the number of spectators coming up increased, the system was abandoned, which made its earlier rigorous imposition even more inexplicable. But I have been told that it was re-imposed at half time, causing further inconvenience and annoyance.
After the match, Stoke City supporters' social media was full of very critical comments about this bizarre crowd management, in my opinion understandably so. I would be grateful to receive your comments, including an explanation of why and by whom this system was imposed.
Regards
Malcolm
Malcolm Clarke, Chair, Stoke City Supporters Club; Chair, Football Supporters' Association.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Apr 6, 2023 16:12:58 GMT
To be fair the steward I spoke to said it was crazy and he was just doing as he was told.
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