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Post by stokiejoe on Jul 1, 2024 17:34:31 GMT
I was there with my dad on the Stoke End Same for me. The real Boothen End for me, happy days. |
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Post by ihaveadream on Jul 2, 2024 12:21:45 GMT
In 2 days time we reach the 50th anniversary of the appointment of Don Revie as England manager. He has been manager of Leeds since 1961 and has just won the league pretty comprehensively. He will be paid £200,000 a year. This leaves a problem for Leeds who are manager-less with pre-season looming. The local courts are still dealing with the backlog of cases from the visit of Manchester United and their hooligans. One such case involved a young man from Weston Coyney who was discovered by police in Stoke with a carving knife and axe secreted in a plastic bag. At first he claimed the bag contained his 'snappin', but then admitted he took the weapons to protect himself. The court heard he had appeared before them 2 weeks earlier for taking a brick into a game. He was remanded on bail of £10 for 3 weeks. Waddo has been extolling the virtues of the Dutch team at the World Cup. He hopes their attacking intent will be copied by English football but doubts it because of the negative impact of the 3 up 3 down system. Meanwhile, at the World Cup, the aforementioned Holland have won all 3 of their games in Group A (4-0 vs Argentina, 2-0 vs East Germany and 2-0 vs Brazil) to book their place in the final. They will play the winners of Group B who are West Germany. They also won all 3 of their games (2-0 vs Yugoslavia, 4-2 vs Sweden and in appalling conditions 1-0 vs Poland). The game against Poland was a close run affair and most commentators agreed that the better team lost. I wonder if Waddo will soon have a first hand view of Dutch football! When the sentinel announced the fixture I thought our opponents' name was pronounced like the washing powder. |
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Post by ihaveadream on Jul 2, 2024 12:22:59 GMT
In 2 days time we reach the 50th anniversary of the appointment of Don Revie as England manager. He has been manager of Leeds since 1961 and has just won the league pretty comprehensively. He will be paid £200,000 a year. This leaves a problem for Leeds who are manager-less with pre-season looming. The local courts are still dealing with the backlog of cases from the visit of Manchester United and their hooligans. One such case involved a young man from Weston Coyney who was discovered by police in Stoke with a carving knife and axe secreted in a plastic bag. At first he claimed the bag contained his 'snappin', but then admitted he took the weapons to protect himself. The court heard he had appeared before them 2 weeks earlier for taking a brick into a game. He was remanded on bail of £10 for 3 weeks.
Waddo has been extolling the virtues of the Dutch team at the World Cup. He hopes their attacking intent will be copied by English football but doubts it because of the negative impact of the 3 up 3 down system. Meanwhile, at the World Cup, the aforementioned Holland have won all 3 of their games in Group A (4-0 vs Argentina, 2-0 vs East Germany and 2-0 vs Brazil) to book their place in the final. They will play the winners of Group B who are West Germany. They also won all 3 of their games (2-0 vs Yugoslavia, 4-2 vs Sweden and in appalling conditions 1-0 vs Poland). The game against Poland was a close run affair and most commentators agreed that the better team lost. I wonder if Waddo will soon have a first hand view of Dutch football! Brilliant  It's me snappin' your honour |
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Post by march4 on Jul 7, 2024 20:29:33 GMT
Tuesday marks the 50th anniversary of the signing of Geoff Salmons from Sheffield Utd for a fee of £160,000. Waddo had agreed a fee with Sheffield but the news broke before he had even met Salmons. He drove to Sheffield to quickly finalise the arrangements with the lure of European football leading to no hesitation from the Yorkshireman. Arsenal and Spurs were also interested in Salmons' signature. Sheffield were forced to sell as they are reconfiguring the historic Bramall Lane from a multipurpose football/athletics/cricket ground into one just for football and the cost was proving tricky to manage. Waddo heard about their difficulties during our tour to Cyprus with Sheffield and made his initial approach. The Cyprus tour also cemented our commitment to 433 next season and TC's injury free performances convinced Waddo that we don't need to sign another striker.
The Sentinel say; "Cash crises that restrict most of the country at the moment do not seem to affect football spending. Stoke City, determined to rate with the elite of the Football League and to succeed in European competition have spent around £400,000 in the past 12 months to this end, clearing their kitty in the process". They go on to say that this "is a double gamble. They are banking on having a winning team and gates of more than 30,000 to pay for it."
The national papers suggest that Stoke are now ready to cash in on Ritchie, Hurst and Haslegrave should any decent offers be made.
Meanwhile Alfie Conn is due to leave Glasgow Rangers for Spurs for £140,000 and the trauma at Chelsea continues with Peter Bonetti making a transfer request. The football world is left stunned by the sudden retirement of Bill Shankly at Liverpool. He went on to say; "I wasn't feeling ill or anything like that, but I felt though that if I was away from the pressures of Anfield for a while, and rested, it would make me fitter and rejuvenate me. I felt I could contribute more later on. I would never leave the city of Liverpool, and still wanted to be involved in football."
It is 50 years today since West Germany beat Holland 2-1 in the World Cup final refereed by Wolverhampton butcher Jack Taylor. German efficiency overcame the flair of Holland's total football. A penalty straight from the kick off put Holland ahead but a penalty to Germany 20 minutes later levelled things. It was left to the master goalscorer Gerd Muller to score the winner just before half-time. Poland finished 3rd beating Brazil 1-0.
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Post by a on Jul 9, 2024 16:28:13 GMT
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Post by deeside2 on Jul 9, 2024 16:44:38 GMT
I was in that end when Jimmy scored. Terrible pitch but superb back heel from Hudson and a great volley by Jimmy. |
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Post by a on Jul 9, 2024 16:46:26 GMT
I was in that end when Jimmy scored. Terrible pitch but superb back heel from Hudson and a great volley by Jimmy. Liquid football 😂 but yea great goal and what an abomination of a pitch! |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 12:01:11 GMT
45,000 pottery jobs in 1979. 20,000 by 1991. Fuck me. Go back another couple of decades and it was 70,000. [/quote] Plus steel and coal jobs.[/quote] In those days,you could leave your job on Friday,then start another one on the monday. |
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Post by AlliG on Jul 10, 2024 13:30:19 GMT
Go back another couple of decades and it was 70,000. Plus steel and coal jobs.[/quote] In those days,you could leave your job on Friday,then start another one on the monday. [/quote] I finished my A-Levels on the Wednesday and went to sign-on on the Thursday before Potters Fortnight, expecting to get a couple of weeks "holiday money" and then a summer job after Potters finished. I was given a job at the Royal Albert Works on King Street on the day I signed-on and started the first Monday of Potters. In the end I had 2 days off between finishing my A-Levels and starting University. I have never been very good at organisation! |
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Post by march4 on Jul 15, 2024 14:23:59 GMT
The players return for pre-season training with a fortnight of stamina work on Trentham Hills the order of the day. Waddo has arranged 4 pre-season games in Europe (2 in France and 2 in Holland) to help us prepare for our UEFA Cup adventure. John Ritchie has been given 2 weeks leave to travel to the USA where his sister is sadly ill.
Season ticket sales are looking good. This time last year, the club had taken in £5,000 of sales, but this summer sales have already passed £80,000, just a couple of thousand behind the club's record sales in 1972. It is hoped the total sales for this season will be in excess of £100,000. This should help offset some of the outlay of £400,000 on Hudson and Salmons. The national papers continue to suggest Stoke are ready to offload Hurst, Ritchie and Haslegrave should a suitable offer be made. The Sentinel suggest we might be prepared to accept offers of around £200,000 for Mahoney.
The Sentinel comment section is getting a little carried away, claiming "Stoke are poised for a breakthrough to join the elite group of leading English clubs", such as "Leeds and Liverpool". The break even figure of an average attendance of 30,000 mentioned previously by the Sentinel seems a difficult ask as the club have only managed it twice since WW2; in 1947 when nearly winning the league and in 1964 following promotion.
In Sheffield, some supporters have gone on season ticket strike in protest at the sale of Salmons to Stoke. Meanwhile Peter Shilton has put in a transfer request at Leicester, but the asking price of £300,000+ has put everyone off a bid.
An article in the Mirror discusses football's spending. Revie is being paid £20,000 a year to manage England. Chelsea have paid £250,000 for David Hay from Celtic, Alfie Conn cost Spurs £150,000 from Rangers, Newcastle spent £125,000 on Blackpool's Micky Burns and Brian Kidd went from Man Utd to Arsenal for £110,000. Chelsea's exodus continues with Dave Webb joining QPR for £100,000. The strangest transfer was Ray Kennedy going from Arsenal to Liverpool for £200,000. These were the days when clubs had fairly small squads and only signed players if gaps had appeared in the squad (Hudson and Salmons replaced Eastham and Dobing in our squad), but Liverpool had a full squad with an excellent midfield. It wasn't the done thing for a club to "overload" their squad in this way. For those of you looking at why English football is now so different from how it was 50+ years ago, this transfer was in my opinion the starting point of the big clubs pulling away from the rest.
And if our opening fixture against league champions Leeds wasn't already tasty enough, Leeds have just appointed Brian Clough as their new manager.
Waddo will soon be going to Zurich to find out our UEFA Cup opponents.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 15, 2024 14:32:21 GMT
The players return for pre-season training with a fortnight of stamina work on Trentham Hills the order of the day. Waddo has arranged 4 pre-season games in Europe (2 in France and 2 in Holland) to help us prepare for our UEFA Cup adventure. John Ritchie has been given 2 weeks leave to travel to the USA where his sister is sadly ill. Season ticket sales are looking good. This time last year, the club had taken in £5,000 of sales, but this summer sales have already passed £80,000, just a couple of thousand behind the club's record sales in 1972. It is hoped the total sales for this season will be in excess of £100,000. This should help offset some of the outlay of £400,000 on Hudson and Salmons. The national papers continue to suggest Stoke are ready to offload Hurst, Ritchie and Haslegrave should a suitable offer be made. The Sentinel suggest we might be prepared to accept offers of around £200,000 for Mahoney. The Sentinel comment section is getting a little carried away, claiming "Stoke are poised for a breakthrough to join the elite group of leading English clubs", such as "Leeds and Liverpool". The break even figure of an average attendance of 30,000 mentioned previously by the Sentinel seems a difficult ask as the club have only managed it twice since WW2; in 1947 when nearly winning the league and in 1964 following promotion. In Sheffield, some supporters have gone on season ticket strike in protest at the sale of Salmons to Stoke. Meanwhile Peter Shilton has put in a transfer request at Leicester, but the asking price of £300,000+ has put everyone off a bid. An article in the Mirror discusses football's spending. Revie is being paid £20,000 a year to manage England. Chelsea have paid £250,000 for David Hay from Celtic, Alfie Conn cost Spurs £150,000 from Rangers, Newcastle spent £125,000 on Blackpool's Micky Burns and Brian Kidd went from Man Utd to Arsenal for £110,000. Chelsea's exodus continues with Dave Webb joining QPR for £100,000. The strangest transfer was Ray Kennedy going from Arsenal to Liverpool for £200,000. These were the days when clubs had fairly small squads and only signed players if gaps had appeared in the squad (Hudson and Salmons replaced Eastham and Dobing in our squad), but Liverpool had a full squad with an excellent midfield. It wasn't the done thing for a club to "overload" their squad in this way. For those of you looking at why English football is now so different from how it was 50+ years ago, this transfer was in my opinion the starting point of the big clubs pulling away from the rest. And if our opening fixture against league champions Leeds wasn't already tasty enough, Leeds have just appointed Brian Clough as their new manager. Waddo will soon be going to Zurich to find out our UEFA Cup opponents. Wonderful memories thank you for posting . |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 15, 2024 15:58:33 GMT
In 2 days time we reach the 50th anniversary of the appointment of Don Revie as England manager. He has been manager of Leeds since 1961 and has just won the league pretty comprehensively. He will be paid £200,000 a year. This leaves a problem for Leeds who are manager-less with pre-season looming. The local courts are still dealing with the backlog of cases from the visit of Manchester United and their hooligans. One such case involved a young man from Weston Coyney who was discovered by police in Stoke with a carving knife and axe secreted in a plastic bag. At first he claimed the bag contained his 'snappin', but then admitted he took the weapons to protect himself. The court heard he had appeared before them 2 weeks earlier for taking a brick into a game. He was remanded on bail of £10 for 3 weeks.
Waddo has been extolling the virtues of the Dutch team at the World Cup. He hopes their attacking intent will be copied by English football but doubts it because of the negative impact of the 3 up 3 down system. Meanwhile, at the World Cup, the aforementioned Holland have won all 3 of their games in Group A (4-0 vs Argentina, 2-0 vs East Germany and 2-0 vs Brazil) to book their place in the final. They will play the winners of Group B who are West Germany. They also won all 3 of their games (2-0 vs Yugoslavia, 4-2 vs Sweden and in appalling conditions 1-0 vs Poland). The game against Poland was a close run affair and most commentators agreed that the better team lost. I wonder if Waddo will soon have a first hand view of Dutch football! Brilliant Waddo would have made a great England manager. Having them playing the way Stoke did in the middle 70s but with a squad full of England's best at that time. |
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 15, 2024 20:49:40 GMT
The players return for pre-season training with a fortnight of stamina work on Trentham Hills the order of the day. Waddo has arranged 4 pre-season games in Europe (2 in France and 2 in Holland) to help us prepare for our UEFA Cup adventure. John Ritchie has been given 2 weeks leave to travel to the USA where his sister is sadly ill. Season ticket sales are looking good. This time last year, the club had taken in £5,000 of sales, but this summer sales have already passed £80,000, just a couple of thousand behind the club's record sales in 1972. It is hoped the total sales for this season will be in excess of £100,000. This should help offset some of the outlay of £400,000 on Hudson and Salmons. The national papers continue to suggest Stoke are ready to offload Hurst, Ritchie and Haslegrave should a suitable offer be made. The Sentinel suggest we might be prepared to accept offers of around £200,000 for Mahoney. The Sentinel comment section is getting a little carried away, claiming "Stoke are poised for a breakthrough to join the elite group of leading English clubs", such as "Leeds and Liverpool". The break even figure of an average attendance of 30,000 mentioned previously by the Sentinel seems a difficult ask as the club have only managed it twice since WW2; in 1947 when nearly winning the league and in 1964 following promotion. In Sheffield, some supporters have gone on season ticket strike in protest at the sale of Salmons to Stoke. Meanwhile Peter Shilton has put in a transfer request at Leicester, but the asking price of £300,000+ has put everyone off a bid. An article in the Mirror discusses football's spending. Revie is being paid £20,000 a year to manage England. Chelsea have paid £250,000 for David Hay from Celtic, Alfie Conn cost Spurs £150,000 from Rangers, Newcastle spent £125,000 on Blackpool's Micky Burns and Brian Kidd went from Man Utd to Arsenal for £110,000. Chelsea's exodus continues with Dave Webb joining QPR for £100,000. The strangest transfer was Ray Kennedy going from Arsenal to Liverpool for £200,000. These were the days when clubs had fairly small squads and only signed players if gaps had appeared in the squad (Hudson and Salmons replaced Eastham and Dobing in our squad), but Liverpool had a full squad with an excellent midfield. It wasn't the done thing for a club to "overload" their squad in this way. For those of you looking at why English football is now so different from how it was 50+ years ago, this transfer was in my opinion the starting point of the big clubs pulling away from the rest. And if our opening fixture against league champions Leeds wasn't already tasty enough, Leeds have just appointed Brian Clough as their new manager. Waddo will soon be going to Zurich to find out our UEFA Cup opponents. Great read. I noticed there was a post on the Sheffield United fan forum about Geoff Salmons the other day, reminiscing about his qualities, he still lives in Sheffield. They are still not happy about selling him even now!!! Hay and Conn were both big money flops if I remember correctly? Kennedy was a real classy player, released by Sir Stan at Vale when he was 16 because he said he was too slow. |
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Post by Bagwash on Jul 16, 2024 4:27:49 GMT
Brilliant Waddo would have made a great England manager. Having them playing the way Stoke did in the middle 70s but with a squad full of England's best at that time. Hudson would have been captain and him and Greenhoff would have been regulars in the England squad. |
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Post by march4 on Jul 16, 2024 10:09:06 GMT
Waddo would have made a great England manager. Having them playing the way Stoke did in the middle 70s but with a squad full of England's best at that time. Hudson would have been captain and him and Greenhoff would have been regulars in the England squad. I suspect Pej and Denis would have been in the squad too. |
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Post by march4 on Aug 3, 2024 19:29:32 GMT
And so the UEFA Cup draw has pitted us with Ajax. Although remembered for their recent European Cup wins, this is a weaker side without Cruyff and Neeskens and they could only finish second to Feyenoord in the Dutch league. An excellent opportunity to advance to the next round. As Alan Hudson said to the Sentinel; "they are over rated".
It has been announced that our mouth watering season opener against Leeds will be the first game to be sponsored by an outside company. Fodens of Sandbach will be the first sponsors. Commercial manager, Dudley Kernick also has sponsors lined up for future games at a rate of around £1000 per match.
Dutch referee and businessman, Mr Franz de Leuw has claimed the Victoria Ground should become the new national stadium replacing Wembley. His vision has the ground largely rebuilt with a complex including hotel, ice rink and leisure centre.
Stoke have completed the required anti-hooligan moats at both ends of the ground. This has been a costly enterprise completed at speed in order to be ready for the start of the season.
We have beaten Monaco 2-0 during our European tour. Our team was; Farmer, Marsh, Pejic, Bloor, Smith, Mahoney, Haslegrave, Hudson, Hurst, Greenhoff, Salmons. At half-time, TC replaced Hurst and Dodd replaced Marsh. Robertson replaced Salmons on the hour. Our first goal was scored by a Monaco defender and TC added a second. We will play two further pre-season friendlies in Belgium on August 11th and 12th. Huddy returned home in the midst of these fixtures and was taken to hospital following a road traffic accident. He injured his back after a car in which he was a passenger hit a wall.
Waddo, Eastham, Banksie and Pej represented the club at a Cafe Royal dinner held in honour of Sir Alf.
And Liverpool have announced the promotion of Bob Paisley to the manager's position.
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Post by lordb on Aug 3, 2024 19:39:08 GMT
And so the UEFA Cup draw has pitted us with Ajax. Although remembered for their recent European Cup wins, this is a weaker side without Cruyff and Neeskens and they could only finish second to Feyenoord in the Dutch league. An excellent opportunity to advance to the next round. As Alan Hudson said to the Sentinel; "they are over rated". It has been announced that our mouth watering season opener against Leeds will be the first game to be sponsored by an outside company. Fodens of Sandbach will be the first sponsors. Commercial manager, Dudley Kernick also has sponsors lined up for future games at a rate of around £1000 per match. Dutch referee and businessman, Mr Franz de Leuw has claimed the Victoria Ground should become the new national stadium replacing Wembley. His vision has the ground largely rebuilt with a complex including hotel, ice rink and leisure centre. Stoke have completed the required anti-hooligan moats at both ends of the ground. This has been a costly enterprise completed at speed in order to be ready for the start of the season. We have beaten Monaco 2-0 during our European tour. Our team was; Farmer, Marsh, Pejic, Bloor, Smith, Mahoney, Haslegrave, Hudson, Hurst, Greenhoff, Salmons. At half-time, TC replaced Hurst and Dodd replaced Marsh. Robertson replaced Salmons on the hour. Our first goal was scored by a Monaco defender and TC added a second. We will play two further pre-season friendlies in Belgium on August 11th and 12th. Huddy returned home in the midst of these fixtures and was taken to hospital following a road traffic accident. He injured his back after a car in which he was a passenger hit a wall. Waddo, Eastham, Banksie and Pej represented the club at a Cafe Royal dinner held in honour of Sir Alf. And Liverpool have announced the promotion of Bob Paisley to the manager's position. Never knew that re the Dutch development idea Bizarre! |
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Post by march4 on Aug 10, 2024 10:25:41 GMT
Today marks the 50th Anniversary of one of the most infamous games in English football - the traditional Charity Shield game at Wembley. Brian Clough led out Leeds for the first time and the recently retired Bill Shankly led out Liverpool for the final time. The game was an embarrassment from the start with players lashing out at each other regularly. Kicks and punches were being thrown off the ball all over the pitch. Eventually things completely boiled over 15 minutes into the 2nd half with Liverpool winning 1-0. A series of crude Leeds challenges on the edge of their own box was followed by Giles pole-axing Keegan with a hay maker. Incredibly Giles was only booked. The free kick was taken and Keegan was again on the floor following an incident not seen by the cameras - however, other players suggest Giles had barged into Keegan's back. Keegan was then grabbed by Hunter. The referee called over Keegan and Bremner and sent off both players. Neither were happy and took off their shirts throwing them to the ground. After the game it was claimed Keegan mistakenly blamed Bremner not Giles for his treatment and the two traded blows. Both Keegan and Bremner were suspended for 11 games and fined an unprecedented £500 each. Giles escaped further punishment. For the record the game ended 1-1 and Liverpool won on penalties. As a boy Keegan had been a Leeds supporter and had driven 500 miles to play in a previous testimonial game at Elland Road only for Norman Hunter to 'harpoon' him with an awful challenge. Keegan was mystified by the treatment he received from players he had idolised as a lad. It was the removal of their shirts that shocked football with the papers labelling them both a disgrace. With the public mood anxious over the rise in hooliganism, the actions of both players was considered to contribute to issues off the pitch. The tribunal chairman gave both players a public dressing down telling them "you earn too much money". It has also been suggested that Giles acted in the way he did because he was unhappy that he had been overlooked for the manager's job at Leeds in favour of Clough.
And Leeds' next game - away to Stoke!
Little Stoke news in the papers other than us being linked with a £300,000 bid for Spurs and England striker Martin Chivers.
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Post by djduncanjames on Aug 10, 2024 10:29:39 GMT
This is the best thread I have ever seen on here, thank you and I will be sharing with my father, he needs help with his memory and this is wonderful. Nice one lads x
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Post by ihaveadream on Aug 12, 2024 12:27:28 GMT
If there was a league for dirtiest teams in the 70s Leeds would have won the title most seasons
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 12, 2024 12:46:07 GMT
Today marks the 50th Anniversary of one of the most infamous games in English football - the traditional Charity Shield game at Wembley. Brian Clough led out Leeds for the first time and the recently retired Bill Shankly led out Liverpool for the final time. The game was an embarrassment from the start with players lashing out at each other regularly. Kicks and punches were being thrown off the ball all over the pitch. Eventually things completely boiled over 15 minutes into the 2nd half with Liverpool winning 1-0. A series of crude Leeds challenges on the edge of their own box was followed by Giles pole-axing Keegan with a hay maker. Incredibly Giles was only booked. The free kick was taken and Keegan was again on the floor following an incident not seen by the cameras - however, other players suggest Giles had barged into Keegan's back. Keegan was then grabbed by Hunter. The referee called over Keegan and Bremner and sent off both players. Neither were happy and took off their shirts throwing them to the ground. After the game it was claimed Keegan mistakenly blamed Bremner not Giles for his treatment and the two traded blows. Both Keegan and Bremner were suspended for 11 games and fined an unprecedented £500 each. Giles escaped further punishment. For the record the game ended 1-1 and Liverpool won on penalties. As a boy Keegan had been a Leeds supporter and had driven 500 miles to play in a previous testimonial game at Elland Road only for Norman Hunter to 'harpoon' him with an awful challenge. Keegan was mystified by the treatment he received from players he had idolised as a lad. It was the removal of their shirts that shocked football with the papers labelling them both a disgrace. With the public mood anxious over the rise in hooliganism, the actions of both players was considered to contribute to issues off the pitch. The tribunal chairman gave both players a public dressing down telling them "you earn too much money". It has also been suggested that Giles acted in the way he did because he was unhappy that he had been overlooked for the manager's job at Leeds in favour of Clough. And Leeds' next game - away to Stoke! Little Stoke news in the papers other than us being linked with a £300,000 bid for Spurs and England striker Martin Chivers. Was there ever any truth in the Chivers rumour? He would have been 29 at the time of this bid and that was big money. He was excellent in his prime but he seems to have peaked by this time. Although 29 doesn't seem too old he was considered to be coming to the end of his prime with his career blighted by injuries from 1974-75 onwards. He scored 10 goals in the 74-75 season in a struggling Spurs team and 9 the season after and then went to play in Swiss football. |
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Post by march4 on Aug 12, 2024 16:44:24 GMT
If there was a league for dirtiest teams in the 70s Leeds would have won the title most seasons I would put Ipswich above them and Coventry close to them. |
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Post by march4 on Aug 12, 2024 16:45:20 GMT
Today marks the 50th Anniversary of one of the most infamous games in English football - the traditional Charity Shield game at Wembley. Brian Clough led out Leeds for the first time and the recently retired Bill Shankly led out Liverpool for the final time. The game was an embarrassment from the start with players lashing out at each other regularly. Kicks and punches were being thrown off the ball all over the pitch. Eventually things completely boiled over 15 minutes into the 2nd half with Liverpool winning 1-0. A series of crude Leeds challenges on the edge of their own box was followed by Giles pole-axing Keegan with a hay maker. Incredibly Giles was only booked. The free kick was taken and Keegan was again on the floor following an incident not seen by the cameras - however, other players suggest Giles had barged into Keegan's back. Keegan was then grabbed by Hunter. The referee called over Keegan and Bremner and sent off both players. Neither were happy and took off their shirts throwing them to the ground. After the game it was claimed Keegan mistakenly blamed Bremner not Giles for his treatment and the two traded blows. Both Keegan and Bremner were suspended for 11 games and fined an unprecedented £500 each. Giles escaped further punishment. For the record the game ended 1-1 and Liverpool won on penalties. As a boy Keegan had been a Leeds supporter and had driven 500 miles to play in a previous testimonial game at Elland Road only for Norman Hunter to 'harpoon' him with an awful challenge. Keegan was mystified by the treatment he received from players he had idolised as a lad. It was the removal of their shirts that shocked football with the papers labelling them both a disgrace. With the public mood anxious over the rise in hooliganism, the actions of both players was considered to contribute to issues off the pitch. The tribunal chairman gave both players a public dressing down telling them "you earn too much money". It has also been suggested that Giles acted in the way he did because he was unhappy that he had been overlooked for the manager's job at Leeds in favour of Clough. And Leeds' next game - away to Stoke! Little Stoke news in the papers other than us being linked with a £300,000 bid for Spurs and England striker Martin Chivers. Was there ever any truth in the Chivers rumour? He would have been 29 at the time of this bid and that was big money. He was excellent in his prime but he seems to have peaked by this time. Although 29 doesn't seem too old he was considered to be coming to the end of his prime with his career blighted by injuries from 1974-75 onwards. He scored 10 goals in the 74-75 season in a struggling Spurs team and 9 the season after and then went to play in Swiss football. He was probably past it by 1974. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 12, 2024 22:08:02 GMT
Was there ever any truth in the Chivers rumour? He would have been 29 at the time of this bid and that was big money. He was excellent in his prime but he seems to have peaked by this time. Although 29 doesn't seem too old he was considered to be coming to the end of his prime with his career blighted by injuries from 1974-75 onwards. He scored 10 goals in the 74-75 season in a struggling Spurs team and 9 the season after and then went to play in Swiss football. He was probably past it by 1974. Anyone 29 back then was ancient! Admittedly I was only 13! 😁 |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 12, 2024 22:13:02 GMT
If there was a league for dirtiest teams in the 70s Leeds would have won the title most seasons I would put Ipswich above them and Coventry close to them. Arsenal, Chelsea? Thing is with Leeds was they were a great footballing side and seemed to revel (Revie) in the dark arts and could, arguably, won more if they'd stuck to football. They didn't actually win that much considering the team they had! |
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Post by Gods on Aug 12, 2024 23:26:27 GMT
I would put Ipswich above them and Coventry close to them. Arsenal, Chelsea? Thing is with Leeds was they were a great footballing side and seemed to revel (Revie) in the dark arts and could, arguably, won more if they'd stuck to football. They didn't actually win that much considering the team they had! So true. I was brought to believe that Leeds were the best team in the land. |
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 12, 2024 23:49:34 GMT
Arsenal, Chelsea? Thing is with Leeds was they were a great footballing side and seemed to revel (Revie) in the dark arts and could, arguably, won more if they'd stuck to football. They didn't actually win that much considering the team they had! So true. I was brought to believe that Leeds were the best team in the land. To be fair, during their golden period between 67 and 74 They won the League twice and finished runners up three times. They also won the FA Cup once and were runners up twice Won the League Cup Won the Fairs Cup twice, were runners up in the European Cup Winners Cup and runners up in the European Cup. I reckon that is pretty impressive because there were a few very decent teams around that period inc. Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton and Derby. I don't think there was any other side who were as consistent as that? Of course, I couldn't stand them either. |
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Post by march4 on Aug 13, 2024 8:21:53 GMT
I think with Leeds it was their perfection of the dark arts which made them so disliked.
Ipswich and Coventry were just vicious.
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Post by march4 on Aug 15, 2024 19:53:51 GMT
On Saturday, it will be 50 years since we started the new season against Brian Clough's league champions - Leeds Utd. Leeds had been involved in one of English football's most controversial games the previous weekend against Liverpool and they lined up against Stoke with a number of regulars missing; Harvey, Reaney, Cooper, Bremner, McQueen, Cherry, Lorimer, Madeley, Jordan, Giles, McKenzie. This was still a formidable outfit in spite of the rumours of unrest at the club. We started the season with; Farmer, Marsh, Pejic, Dodd, Smith, Mahoney, Haslegrave, Greenhoff, Ritchie, Hudson, Salmons. Sub; Hurst. This was one of our most memorable games of the 70s. Hudson revelled in the August sunshine. He is now a stone lighter than when he joined the club and the extra fitness saw him dominate the game from start to finish against some of the best players in British football. It was a performance that saw the Sunday papers urging new England manager Don Revie, to make Huddy a fixture in the international team. Of course, Revie (nor his assistant; Les Cocker) were actually at the game between two of English football's best teams. Leeds simply couldn't cope with Stoke although it took a 50th minute long ranger from Mahoney to break the deadlock. Leeds wilted in the heat and Stoke added two further goals in the last 5 minutes through Greenhoff and Ritchie to complete a 3-0 victory. Stoke are the team of 1974 and this victory cements their place among the favourites to win the league title this season. Thankfully, the ATV cameras and Hugh Johns were present to record this fantastic victory forever. The video also includes Brian Clough's post match interview.  |
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Post by castokie on Aug 15, 2024 22:39:25 GMT
Great job again March. As well as attending the game I have seen highlights (mostly the goals) before but never seen as much as shown here. I was fascinated by Cloughies interview with Brian Moore, having seen many of his other interviews where his arrogance came through he seemed subdued almost like he had figured out what a mistake he had made taking that job on. Looking forward to weekly updates especially the away at Carlisle in those days it was quite a feat going that far especially from London, but he new ground thingy was to hard to resist. Great days
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