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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 8:43:50 GMT
Unfortunately the BBC won't learn The irony is that is not what people from ethnic minorities, the transgender community and disabled people want. They would just like to see a decent programme the same as we all would. Interesting that you think you speak for all of those people despite (assumingly) not being any of them. Also worth remembering is that there's a lot of people who aren't of those persuasions that also think equal representation and diversity is not a bad thing Looking forward to Raul Paul hosting MOTD....forget the fact of having the best person for the job doing it, let's make sure we tick those diversity boxes first...
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Post by citynickscfc on Mar 12, 2023 8:45:40 GMT
Interesting that you think you speak for all of those people despite (assumingly) not being any of them. Also worth remembering is that there's a lot of people who aren't of those persuasions that also think equal representation and diversity is not a bad thing Looking forward to Raul Paul hosting MOTD....forget the fact of having the best person for the job doing it, let's make sure we tick those diversity boxes first... Wait.... So now you want linekar to do it??? I'm confused
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 8:58:17 GMT
This storm is all about an ex footballer who thinks the world need to hear his political views.. I don't watch MOTD now mainly because I can't stand the smug, arrogant, self righteous and over paid Mr Linekar So I sure as hell have no more interest in listening to his political views than he has of mine.. The sooner these celebs just get on with their jobs and not lecture everybody else the better... Here's hoping for a new modern style of MOTD without a 30 yrs retired ex player. Just out of interest what is wrong with sharing views? Additionally how is it different to posting on a forum on the internet? I thought it was considered a basic human right to have a voice? Deeply worried by the confused ideologies even within the microcosm of this thread. It's my human right that I dont want to listen to multi millionaire ex footballers telling me their political views. I can post on the Internet as I don't have a contract requesting I remain impartial on sensitive issues. Personally I don't actually believe Mr linekar gives a damn about the chaos on our South Coast towns due to illegal immigrants...it would of been refreshing if Mr linekar had remembered to local people living in South Coast towns whose lives and livelihoods are being affected by the influx of illegal immigrants..or even how hotels have been taken over to house these people free of charge because we have nowhere else to house them...bit those views don't meet the new woke views were having forced on us. It's funny that despite giving his views on qatar during the world cup...it didn't stop him remembering and carrying out his contract with the BBC to spend 5 weeks in a 5star Qatar Hotel while filling his inst page with snaps of him and shearer enjoying the sightseeing.. .. shame he didn't remember his contract before his latest outburst. He's just another overpaid celeb who thinks he has to be hip with his leftie views...
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 9:00:50 GMT
Looking forward to Raul Paul hosting MOTD....forget the fact of having the best person for the job doing it, let's make sure we tick those diversity boxes first... Wait.... So now you want linekar to do it??? I'm confused Don't be confused....if you've read my earlier threads you'll see I don't watch MOTD mainly due to Mr Linekar.. you'll see I think MOTD needs modernising a With a host that didn't retire from playing over 30 yrs ago.. So no I don't think Mr linekar is the best for the job.
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Post by hotterpotter on Mar 12, 2023 9:13:14 GMT
Unfortunately the BBC won't learn They want the programme presented by ethnic minorities, transgender people, disabled people etc and they won't stop until they have done that . The irony is that is not what people from ethnic minorities, the transgender community and disabled people want. They would just like to see a decent programme the same as we all would. But unfortunately the champagne socialist woke brigade at the BBC will just carry on banging out the same tune on their drum . Until everyone is bored senseless of it and have stopped buying a TV licence and stopped watching the BBC. Just a matter of time before some internet / TV company realises you can do a Netflix with sports and produce a package showing this afternoons/ yesterday's football, golf , cricket etc and everyone can watch it without a TV licence. The BBC will ultimately succeed in putting themselves out of business.That will be a massive achievement given that everything is rigged in their favour. But as the years go bye , they will do it. It's impossible to succeed in the entertainment industry by refusing to entertain people and just relentlessly lecturing them. You know for a fact do you - that people from ethnic minorities, transgender and disabled people don’t want to see people like themselves on the telly and certainly wouldn’t want to present a sports programme ? I'm a disabled person and I don't give two hoots if presenters are disabled or not. As long as disabled people who want to be presenters are treated fairly in the application/interview process I'm happy.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 12, 2023 9:18:30 GMT
Wait.... So now you want linekar to do it??? I'm confused Don't be confused....if you've read my earlier threads you'll see I don't watch MOTD mainly due to Mr Linekar.. you'll see I think MOTD needs modernising a With a host that didn't retire from playing over 30 yrs ago.. So no I don't think Mr linekar is the best for the job. The host doesn’t provide any analysis himself so I don’t see why his having retired from football is relevant? Had Des Lynam recently packed in a career as an uncompromising centre half when he presented it?
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Post by hotterpotter on Mar 12, 2023 9:18:47 GMT
Now become bargain hunt..... Is that the docco about Stoke and FFP?
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Post by pushon on Mar 12, 2023 9:24:46 GMT
Just out of interest what is wrong with sharing views? Additionally how is it different to posting on a forum on the internet? I thought it was considered a basic human right to have a voice? Deeply worried by the confused ideologies even within the microcosm of this thread. It's my human right that I dont want to listen to multi millionaire ex footballers telling me their political views. I can post on the Internet as I don't have a contract requesting I remain impartial on sensitive issues. Personally I don't actually believe Mr linekar gives a damn about the chaos on our South Coast towns due to illegal immigrants...it would of been refreshing if Mr linekar had remembered to local people living in South Coast towns whose lives and livelihoods are being affected by the influx of illegal immigrants..or even how hotels have been taken over to house these people free of charge because we have nowhere else to house them...bit those views don't meet the new woke views were having forced on us. It's funny that despite giving his views on qatar during the world cup...it didn't stop him remembering and carrying out his contract with the BBC to spend 5 weeks in a 5star Qatar Hotel while filling his inst page with snaps of him and shearer enjoying the sightseeing.. .. shame he didn't remember his contract before his latest outburst. He's just another overpaid celeb who thinks he has to be hip with his leftie views... Excellent post👏
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Mar 12, 2023 10:27:56 GMT
Let's bring you some viewing figures which we've just been made aware of from our entertainment correspondent Lizo Mzimba.
He tweets: "Last night's Match of the Day was watched by 2.58m TV viewers on BBC One.
"Up nearly half a million on last Saturday's figure of 2.09 million according to BARB overnights.
"It's the show's biggest audience since 5 November 2022 when 2.63m watched."
Looks like a lot more people watched it without presenters.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 10:56:28 GMT
Don't be confused....if you've read my earlier threads you'll see I don't watch MOTD mainly due to Mr Linekar.. you'll see I think MOTD needs modernising a With a host that didn't retire from playing over 30 yrs ago.. So no I don't think Mr linekar is the best for the job. The host doesn’t provide any analysis himself so I don’t see why his having retired from football is relevant? Had Des Lynam recently packed in a career as an uncompromising centre half when he presented it? Showing modern day tolerance I greatly respect your view although I ask you show me tolerance and respect in my view I think MOTD Should be modernised with a more relevant younger presenter.... Don't think des was a professional player...but to be honest that's going even further back than what the modern game is now.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 12, 2023 11:01:15 GMT
The host doesn’t provide any analysis himself so I don’t see why his having retired from football is relevant? Had Des Lynam recently packed in a career as an uncompromising centre half when he presented it? Showing modern day tolerance I greatly respect your view although I ask you show me tolerance and respect in my view I think MOTD Should be modernised with a more relevant younger presenter.... Don't think des was a professional player...but to be honest that's going even further back than what the modern game is now. Sorry, if you’re going to post on a messageboard then your view might be challenged. Them’s the breaks. Who do you have in mind as a more relevant presenter? Would, say, Jermaine Jenas really add more to the show?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 12, 2023 11:04:46 GMT
Let's bring you some viewing figures which we've just been made aware of from our entertainment correspondent Lizo Mzimba. He tweets: "Last night's Match of the Day was watched by 2.58m TV viewers on BBC One. "Up nearly half a million on last Saturday's figure of 2.09 million according to BARB overnights. "It's the show's biggest audience since 5 November 2022 when 2.63m watched." Looks like a lot more people watched it without presenters. Well of course they did? It was the most talked about programme in the country. There was bound to be a curiosity factor.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 12, 2023 11:04:52 GMT
Just out of interest what is wrong with sharing views? Additionally how is it different to posting on a forum on the internet? I thought it was considered a basic human right to have a voice? Deeply worried by the confused ideologies even within the microcosm of this thread. It's my human right that I dont want to listen to multi millionaire ex footballers telling me their political views. I can post on the Internet as I don't have a contract requesting I remain impartial on sensitive issues. Personally I don't actually believe Mr linekar gives a damn about the chaos on our South Coast towns due to illegal immigrants...it would of been refreshing if Mr linekar had remembered to local people living in South Coast towns whose lives and livelihoods are being affected by the influx of illegal immigrants..or even how hotels have been taken over to house these people free of charge because we have nowhere else to house them...bit those views don't meet the new woke views were having forced on us. It's funny that despite giving his views on qatar during the world cup...it didn't stop him remembering and carrying out his contract with the BBC to spend 5 weeks in a 5star Qatar Hotel while filling his inst page with snaps of him and shearer enjoying the sightseeing.. .. shame he didn't remember his contract before his latest outburst. He's just another overpaid celeb who thinks he has to be hip with his leftie views... The small boats are happening because the Tory govt cut legal routes to gain asylum. It has been created because of Tory government policy. It is now being used to distract people from food prices soaring, mortgages soaring, energy prices soaring. Well done, you’ve been conned!
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Post by werrington on Mar 12, 2023 11:04:55 GMT
Showing modern day tolerance I greatly respect your view although I ask you show me tolerance and respect in my view I think MOTD Should be modernised with a more relevant younger presenter.... Don't think des was a professional player...but to be honest that's going even further back than what the modern game is now. Sorry, if you’re going to post on a messageboard then your view might be challenged. Them’s the breaks. Who do you have in mind as a more relevant presenter? Would, say, Jermaine Jenas really add more to the show? Let’s cut to the chase mate They hide behind the fact he’s too old when what they really mean us they don’t like him due to his his views They aren’t appearing on the apprentice thread or any old top gear threads to voice their disapproval Leave them too it
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 12, 2023 11:07:24 GMT
Sorry, if you’re going to post on a messageboard then your view might be challenged. Them’s the breaks. Who do you have in mind as a more relevant presenter? Would, say, Jermaine Jenas really add more to the show? Let’s cut to the chase mate They hide behind the fact he’s too old when what they really mean us they don’t like him due to his his views They aren’t appearing on the apprentice thread or any old top gear threads to voice their disapproval Leave them too it We’ve let them to for it for far too long. The Tory party and its followers are more akin to UKIP and probably a bit more right than that now. It’s terrifying and gone unchecked. They need to be start being called out for what it is. Hence why Linenker was spot on.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 11:22:10 GMT
Let’s cut to the chase mate They hide behind the fact he’s too old when what they really mean us they don’t like him due to his his views They aren’t appearing on the apprentice thread or any old top gear threads to voice their disapproval Leave them too it We’ve let them to for it for far too long. The Tory party and its followers are more akin to UKIP and probably a bit more right than that now. It’s terrifying and gone unchecked. They need to be start being called out for what it is. Hence why Linenker was spot on. That's the beauty...to some Lineker was spot on ...but to others he wasn't... The tory party under sunak and hunt are more central/left of the tory party than to the right of the tory party...bit let's not let facts get in the way of accusing anybody who doesn't agree with the left as a far right supporter..
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 11:24:20 GMT
Sorry, if you’re going to post on a messageboard then your view might be challenged. Them’s the breaks. Who do you have in mind as a more relevant presenter? Would, say, Jermaine Jenas really add more to the show? Let’s cut to the chase mate They hide behind the fact he’s too old when what they really mean us they don’t like him due to his his views They aren’t appearing on the apprentice thread or any old top gear threads to voice their disapproval Leave them too it Probably because I couldn't care less about the apprentice or a car show.. I'm interested in football and don't like football presenters mis using their privilege to push their personal views. Also if you read my earlier posts youll see I don't like Lineker because of his smug arrogant attitude presenting MOTD.. bit yes I do believe the show needs updating with fresh presenters..
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 12, 2023 11:25:02 GMT
We’ve let them to for it for far too long. The Tory party and its followers are more akin to UKIP and probably a bit more right than that now. It’s terrifying and gone unchecked. They need to be start being called out for what it is. Hence why Linenker was spot on. That's the beauty...to some Lineker was spot on ...but to others he wasn't... The tory party under sunak and hunt are more central/left of the tory party than to the right of the tory party...bit let's not let facts get in the way of accusing anybody who doesn't agree with the left as a far right supporter.. 😂 Sunak is a man of the people
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 11:27:32 GMT
That's the beauty...to some Lineker was spot on ...but to others he wasn't... The tory party under sunak and hunt are more central/left of the tory party than to the right of the tory party...bit let's not let facts get in the way of accusing anybody who doesn't agree with the left as a far right supporter.. 😂 Sunak is a man of the people Has anybody on this thread claimed to be a sunak fan or that he is a man of the people....or are you putting words in people's mouths. Anyway that's me done.. as I'm just leaving a swanky 5 star london hotel travelling first class train to be met by my chauffer driven mecedes after watching the abba voyage show from my VIP box.... just the same as every other right wing nutter.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 12, 2023 11:28:25 GMT
😂 Sunak is a man of the people Has anybody on this thread claimed to be a sunak fan or that he is a man of the people....or are you putting words in people's mouths. I’m just highlighting what he is
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Post by hotterpotter on Mar 12, 2023 11:32:07 GMT
Has anybody on this thread claimed to be a sunak fan or that he is a man of the people....or are you putting words in people's mouths. I’m just highlighting what he is A swimmer
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 12, 2023 11:33:13 GMT
Let’s cut to the chase mate They hide behind the fact he’s too old when what they really mean us they don’t like him due to his his views They aren’t appearing on the apprentice thread or any old top gear threads to voice their disapproval Leave them too it We’ve let them to for it for far too long. The Tory party and its followers are more akin to UKIP and probably a bit more right than that now. It’s terrifying and gone unchecked. They need to be start being called out for what it is. Hence why Linenker was spot on. Absolutely right, the current Tory party appear to have been taken over by hate fuelled extremists and their governance of the Country is reflective of their attempts to stifle all debate via collusion and ongoing encouragement of what is predominantly a reactionary rightwing media base within England. Their policy on asylum seekers is evil and inhumane and their obvious attachment to stripping the Country of all fairness to help their ongoing corruption is frankly scary. It's come to something when it requires famous sportsmen and women to stand up to their machinations to generate any sort of national reaction. Good on Lineker, Scott, Shearer et al. Terrifying is absolutely the right word.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 11:37:19 GMT
Showing modern day tolerance I greatly respect your view although I ask you show me tolerance and respect in my view I think MOTD Should be modernised with a more relevant younger presenter.... Don't think des was a professional player...but to be honest that's going even further back than what the modern game is now. Sorry, if you’re going to post on a messageboard then your view might be challenged. Them’s the breaks. Who do you have in mind as a more relevant presenter? Would, say, Jermaine Jenas really add more to the show? It's got to be suzy izzard... she's bang on street at the moment
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Post by farfromhere on Mar 12, 2023 11:57:27 GMT
We’ve let them to for it for far too long. The Tory party and its followers are more akin to UKIP and probably a bit more right than that now. It’s terrifying and gone unchecked. They need to be start being called out for what it is. Hence why Linenker was spot on. Absolutely right, the current Tory party appear to have been taken over by hate fuelled extremists and their governance of the Country is reflective of their attempts to stifle all debate via collusion and ongoing encouragement of what is predominantly a reactionary rightwing media base within England. Their policy on asylum seekers is evil and inhumane and their obvious attachment to stripping the Country of all fairness to help their ongoing corruption is frankly scary. It's come to something when it requires famous sportsmen and women to stand up to their machinations to generate any sort of national reaction. Good on Lineker, Scott, Shearer et al. Terrifying is absolutely the right word. Yup, I've left the UK last year because the place is being driven down the pan. The conservatives are very good at identifying polarizing issues that will get them votes "get Brexit done" and now onto "stop the boats". The main thing it'll guarantee is a boatload of votes from the rag reading voters. It works too. Which issues are labour targeting in the next election? I couldn't tell you. The people in power will continue to line their pockets without thought to the cost on the electorate and the country. They can just move on to a tax haven if the worst comes to the worst or continue to live in their elite enclaves in London if not. I do think that the UK will experience brain drain and mass emigration over the next 10 years if it keeps on going the way it is.
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Post by farfromhere on Mar 12, 2023 12:00:47 GMT
Just out of interest what is wrong with sharing views? Additionally how is it different to posting on a forum on the internet? I thought it was considered a basic human right to have a voice? Deeply worried by the confused ideologies even within the microcosm of this thread. It's my human right that I dont want to listen to multi millionaire ex footballers telling me their political views. I can post on the Internet as I don't have a contract requesting I remain impartial on sensitive issues. Personally I don't actually believe Mr linekar gives a damn about the chaos on our South Coast towns due to illegal immigrants...it would of been refreshing if Mr linekar had remembered to local people living in South Coast towns whose lives and livelihoods are being affected by the influx of illegal immigrants..or even how hotels have been taken over to house these people free of charge because we have nowhere else to house them...bit those views don't meet the new woke views were having forced on us. It's funny that despite giving his views on qatar during the world cup...it didn't stop him remembering and carrying out his contract with the BBC to spend 5 weeks in a 5star Qatar Hotel while filling his inst page with snaps of him and shearer enjoying the sightseeing.. .. shame he didn't remember his contract before his latest outburst. He's just another overpaid celeb who thinks he has to be hip with his leftie views... Asylum applications are half what they were 6 years ago but processing of applications within 6 months has fallen from 90 percent to 4 percent. Which is why they're stuck in hotels. It's a policy problem but it's easier to put together a catchy headline and win votes rather than work to come up with a proper solution.
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Post by matelot1996 on Mar 12, 2023 12:08:52 GMT
Two things just to set you straight fella. 1. Linekar is definitely not a National Treasure, he never won any competition with England and is now a full on Bell-End. 2. The Asylum Policy is not racist. Unless you have another definition of Racism to that of the Oxford Dictionary. 1. Lineker has achieved far more in his career than these vile right-wing authoritarian Tory scum MPs like Braverman or the BBC chiefs. 2. A footy fanzine is the not best forum to argue the point on the definition of racism but I really pity people with politics like yours who are happy to ignore and dehumanise refugees fleeing war and persecution and let them drown in the Channel. In terms of the semantics, let’s just agree to disagree and move on. This is why Linkeker’s Twitter post is so important as it shines a spotlight on this appalling racist policy, the corruption of the BBC chiefs being Tory political appointees and another small step of this country going in the right-wing authoritarian direction, which is being led by an extreme right-wing faction of the Tory party. As Orwell said, ‘if liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. ' Shame that the truth is the first victim with this vile Tory government trying to smear, censor and silence critics like Lineker and many others who care about human rights. I wasn’t going to read the Guardian This Morning but that post saved me the bother. It’s clear from your ramblings that most of your brain capacity is occupied processing your irrational hatred of the Tories. Your post is full of bile and nonsense without actually answering my question. Just keep screaming hyperbole like racist, vile, scum and extreme right wing and you lose any credibility. I prefer my politics and moderate adult conversations.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 12:10:38 GMT
It's my human right that I dont want to listen to multi millionaire ex footballers telling me their political views. I can post on the Internet as I don't have a contract requesting I remain impartial on sensitive issues. Personally I don't actually believe Mr linekar gives a damn about the chaos on our South Coast towns due to illegal immigrants...it would of been refreshing if Mr linekar had remembered to local people living in South Coast towns whose lives and livelihoods are being affected by the influx of illegal immigrants..or even how hotels have been taken over to house these people free of charge because we have nowhere else to house them...bit those views don't meet the new woke views were having forced on us. It's funny that despite giving his views on qatar during the world cup...it didn't stop him remembering and carrying out his contract with the BBC to spend 5 weeks in a 5star Qatar Hotel while filling his inst page with snaps of him and shearer enjoying the sightseeing.. .. shame he didn't remember his contract before his latest outburst. He's just another overpaid celeb who thinks he has to be hip with his leftie views... Asylum applications are half what they were 6 years ago but processing of applications within 6 months has fallen from 90 percent to 4 percent. Which is why they're stuck in hotels. It's a policy problem but it's easier to put together a catchy headline and win votes rather than work to come up with a proper solution. If only we had a system which could separate the genuine asylum seekers to the illegal immigrants...as both are not the same and should be treated differently.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 12, 2023 12:17:04 GMT
1. Lineker has achieved far more in his career than these vile right-wing authoritarian Tory scum MPs like Braverman or the BBC chiefs. 2. A footy fanzine is the not best forum to argue the point on the definition of racism but I really pity people with politics like yours who are happy to ignore and dehumanise refugees fleeing war and persecution and let them drown in the Channel. In terms of the semantics, let’s just agree to disagree and move on. This is why Linkeker’s Twitter post is so important as it shines a spotlight on this appalling racist policy, the corruption of the BBC chiefs being Tory political appointees and another small step of this country going in the right-wing authoritarian direction, which is being led by an extreme right-wing faction of the Tory party. As Orwell said, ‘if liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. ' Shame that the truth is the first victim with this vile Tory government trying to smear, censor and silence critics like Lineker and many others who care about human rights. I wasn’t going to read the Guardian This Morning but that post saved me the bother. It’s clear from your ramblings that most of your brain capacity is occupied processing your irrational hatred of the Tories. Your post is full of bile and nonsense without actually answering my question. Just keep screaming hyperbole like racist, vile, scum and extreme right wing and you lose any credibility. I prefer my politics and moderate adult conversations. "irrational hatred of the Tories." Irrational? Why is it irrational? Because they've done such a sterling job of running the country? Because there haven't been numerous claims of them sticking their snouts in the trough and helping themselves to public funds? Because they didn't crash the economy and decimate people's pension funds? Because they didn't prosecute people for breaking rules they made up but broke themselves? I'm intrigued.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 12, 2023 12:27:48 GMT
Has anybody on this thread claimed to be a sunak fan or that he is a man of the people....or are you putting words in people's mouths. I’m just highlighting what he is Isn’t he also the son of parents who were migrants themselves in the 60’s?
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Post by farfromhere on Mar 12, 2023 12:35:34 GMT
Asylum applications are half what they were 6 years ago but processing of applications within 6 months has fallen from 90 percent to 4 percent. Which is why they're stuck in hotels. It's a policy problem but it's easier to put together a catchy headline and win votes rather than work to come up with a proper solution. If only we had a system which could separate the genuine asylum seekers to the illegal immigrants...as both are not the same and should be treated differently. Yes, totally agree and that I what the current system was doing. You apply for asylum, if it's a bogus application (ie. Illegal immigrant) you're deported. Six years ago, when applications were double what they are now, within a couple of months you'd be gone. Now, because only 4% of applications are approved or denied within 6 months, 96% people are sat here in hotels (at our expense) waiting around for over 6 months. Illegals wont care about the new policies put forward because they're illegal anyway so what's a change in policy going to do.
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