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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 25, 2024 11:38:44 GMT
great news , now get him out on loan Looking at the Brum game he was one of the better strikers on show. I'm not sure about that loan thing  . |
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Post by jokker on Jan 25, 2024 11:41:24 GMT
I wonder if Tezgel is in discussions. He will be when he's fully fit, as in completely in the clear. Don't play him till he reaches that. When he reaches that, don't waste another minute but play him. Forget about spare minutes when a game is practically over. Give him enough to be able to influence a game. |
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 25, 2024 11:49:57 GMT
I wonder if Tezgel is in discussions. He will be when he's fully fit, as in completely in the clear. Don't play him till he reaches that. When he reaches that, don't waste another minute but play him. Forget about spare minutes when a game is practically over. Give him enough to be able to influence a game. agree with that, I think i would like us to be a bit more safe first although I don't think we will be anywhere near the drop zone |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 12:09:42 GMT
great news , now get him out on loan Looking at the Brum game he was one of the better strikers on show. I'm not sure about that loan thing . If we are going to use him, there’s no need to loan him. We’re not going to develop both Lowe and Tezgel at the same time though in our current set up with only one striker. One of them should be looking to get real minutes elsewhere. That Lowe has signed until he’s 23/24 highlights that we believe in him, which is great news. |
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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 25, 2024 12:40:55 GMT
Looking at the Brum game he was one of the better strikers on show. I'm not sure about that loan thing . If we are going to use him, there’s no need to loan him. We’re not going to develop both Lowe and Tezgel at the same time though in our current set up with only one striker. One of them should be looking to get real minutes elsewhere. That Lowe has signed until he’s 23/24 highlights that we believe in him, which is great news. With 3 strikers potentially just walking out of the club in June, Lowe needs time here. When fit, Tezgel needs time at a League 1 club at least. Lowe already has 9 appearances for us, he's good enough to kick on IMO. |
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Post by southcoaststokie on Jan 25, 2024 12:46:30 GMT
Great news
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 25, 2024 13:23:35 GMT
Nowhere near ready for the first team.
Needs a league 2 loan this year and a league 1 loan next year.
I know he's only young but I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll make it here.
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Post by jokker on Jan 25, 2024 13:24:53 GMT
He will be when he's fully fit, as in completely in the clear. Don't play him till he reaches that. When he reaches that, don't waste another minute but play him. Forget about spare minutes when a game is practically over. Give him enough to be able to influence a game. agree with that, I think i would like us to be a bit more safe first although I don't think we will be anywhere near the drop zone Have you considered that he might actually win us games which at the moment we lose or draw because Mamae et all can't hit the goal. If we were not safe he could make us safe by winning games for us. I know there's another scenario, which could arise, even if it looks unlikely at the moment. Tezgel fails to score a sitter in the last game of the season and we are relegated, and he would have to bear the guilt for a long time. I probably wouldn't pick him for that last game, but I would pick him in the team or squad for the ten before that or whichever number of games applies. |
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Post by jokker on Jan 25, 2024 13:31:56 GMT
Looking at the Brum game he was one of the better strikers on show. I'm not sure about that loan thing . If we are going to use him, there’s no need to loan him. We’re not going to develop both Lowe and Tezgel at the same time though in our current set up with only one striker. And if one of them is injured and we don't have the right to recall the other what then? We can develop both at the same time by "swopping seats". One plays, the other comes off the bench for the last 20-30 minutes. Then when the one is injured, the other is settled within the team that knows how to play him, because he's trained and played with them. What we have to stop doing is playing forwards who are not scoring goals for us. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 25, 2024 13:33:01 GMT
Nowhere near ready for the first team. Needs a league 2 loan this year and a league 1 loan next year. I know he's only young but I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll make it here. But you think he'll get a League Two loan at 18 and a League one loan at 19? You really are clueless. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 13:42:53 GMT
If we are going to use him, there’s no need to loan him. We’re not going to develop both Lowe and Tezgel at the same time though in our current set up with only one striker. And if one of them is injured and we don't have the right to recall the other what then? We can develop both at the same time by "swopping seats". One plays, the other comes off the bench for the last 20-30 minutes. Then when the one is injured, the other is settled within the team that knows how to play him, because he's trained and played with them. What we have to stop doing is playing forwards who are not scoring goals for us. Which we won’t do because we have Mmaee and Campbell. We could do a lot of things, but we won’t. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 25, 2024 13:46:19 GMT
Nowhere near ready for the first team. Needs a league 2 loan this year and a league 1 loan next year. I know he's only young but I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll make it here. But you think he'll get a League Two loan at 18 and a League one loan at 19? You really are clueless. Why wouldn't he get a league two loan? That has to be the level we'd be looking at. |
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Post by a on Jan 25, 2024 14:03:10 GMT
But you think he'll get a League Two loan at 18 and a League one loan at 19? You really are clueless. Why wouldn't he get a league two loan? That has to be the level we'd be looking at. I think maybe he’s suggesting that he won’t go from league 2 to league 1 over 2 seasons? Which if he can’t then he won’t be ready for this league anyway! |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jan 25, 2024 14:07:26 GMT
Nowhere near ready for the first team. Needs a league 2 loan this year and a league 1 loan next year. I know he's only young but I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll make it here. Ask Leicester and Norwich fans if they thought Kane had enough to succeed, Can't write him off on the basis of 9 games in his first year of mens football hahaha |
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Post by biddulphchav on Jan 25, 2024 14:11:44 GMT
Nowhere near ready for the first team. Needs a league 2 loan this year and a league 1 loan next year. I know he's only young but I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll make it here. Ask Leicester and Norwich fans if they thought Kane had enough to succeed, Can't write him off on the basis of 9 games in his first year of mens football hahaha Very true, so it’s a good sign we’ve got him on a longer term deal. He needs games though, and he needs them in men’s football, not at academy level. I am not sure we can provide him with enough game time to help him develop and learn to deal with the physical stuff, so he should really go out for 6 months to league 2 where he’ll get more minutes. Will be good for him. He sounds like he has the right character to continue to progress and make a good career for himself |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 25, 2024 14:24:32 GMT
Nowhere near ready for the first team. Needs a league 2 loan this year and a league 1 loan next year. I know he's only young but I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll make it here. But you think he'll get a League Two loan at 18 and a League one loan at 19? You really are clueless. It happens quite often, there's plenty of 18 year old players on loan in leagues One and Two. Do some research. |
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Post by questionable on Jan 25, 2024 14:26:02 GMT
Nowhere near ready for the first team. Needs a league 2 loan this year and a league 1 loan next year. I know he's only young but I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll make it here. Gayle/Wesley aren’t mate and I’ve seen enough to see they 100% won’t make it here 👍 |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jan 25, 2024 15:17:17 GMT
great news , now get him out on loan Looking at the Brum game he was one of the better strikers on show. I'm not sure about that loan thing . Not sure lowe looked that impressive against brum. Think he a way to go yet to be champ standard. |
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Post by george2again on Jan 25, 2024 15:21:06 GMT
Nowhere near ready for the first team. Needs a league 2 loan this year and a league 1 loan next year. I know he's only young but I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll make it here. You normally see something in a player even at a young age but don’t see it in Lowe myself. Perhaps the sale of Goodwin to Oxford has provoked some thought he has some value at some point so sign him up. If we had any decent forwards I would say loan immediately but as we don’t he’ll have to stay. |
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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 25, 2024 16:17:56 GMT
If we are going to use him, there’s no need to loan him. We’re not going to develop both Lowe and Tezgel at the same time though in our current set up with only one striker. And if one of them is injured and we don't have the right to recall the other what then? We can develop both at the same time by "swopping seats". One plays, the other comes off the bench for the last 20-30 minutes. Then when the one is injured, the other is settled within the team that knows how to play him, because he's trained and played with them. What we have to stop doing is playing forwards who are not scoring goals for us. That pretty much rules out all our strikers right now. Him and Campbell looked far more dangerous when they came on. |
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Post by pmjh on Jan 25, 2024 16:33:04 GMT
we are allowed 9 players on the bench. I think we should always have 1 or 2 of the most promising youngsters on the bench and use them as required.
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Post by thornestein on Jan 25, 2024 17:08:30 GMT
we are allowed 9 players on the bench. I think we should always have 1 or 2 of the most promising youngsters on the bench and use them as required. they need be playing regular competitive football for their development not sitting warming our bench |
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Post by theoptimist on Jan 25, 2024 17:12:14 GMT
Looking at the Brum game he was one of the better strikers on show. I'm not sure about that loan thing . Not sure lowe looked that impressive against brum. Think he a way to go yet to be champ standard. To be fair, he came on in the 82nd minute! |
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 25, 2024 17:22:12 GMT
No rush with him- needs loaning to League Two or even National League. Build him up, one division at a time.
We need to think long term with these youngsters. Very few are ready for the Championship before they're 21.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 17:47:15 GMT
we are allowed 9 players on the bench. I think we should always have 1 or 2 of the most promising youngsters on the bench and use them as required. they need be playing regular competitive football for their development not sitting warming our bench Agreed. If SS is to give them good minutes (20+) in the majority of the remaining games then by all means, we should keep them here. If not, they should be sent somewhere that they can actually play football. |
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Post by Los Alfareros on Jan 25, 2024 17:56:10 GMT
Reminds me of a young, gangly Alan Shearer.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jan 25, 2024 17:57:10 GMT
No rush with him- needs loaning to League Two or even National League. Build him up, one division at a time. We need to think long term with these youngsters. Very few are ready for the Championship before they're 21. Totally agree, he needs a few years development yet. The clamour on here for him to be first choice reminds me of the clamour for delap Jr, he was nowhere near ready when on loan for us and 2 loan spells later he's only just now starting to find his feet in the Championship. Lowe is similar he needs a couple of years and loan spells yet to develop mentally, physically, to the demands of first team football. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 25, 2024 18:11:46 GMT
No rush with him- needs loaning to League Two or even National League. Build him up, one division at a time. We need to think long term with these youngsters. Very few are ready for the Championship before they're 21. Totally agree, he needs a few years development yet. The clamour on here for him to be first choice reminds me of the clamour for delap Jr, he was nowhere near ready when on loan for us and 2 loan spells later he's only just now starting to find his feet in the Championship. Lowe is similar he needs a couple of years and loan spells yet to develop mentally, physically, to the demands of first team football. Isn't the clamour because he's genuinely a better option than Wesley and Gayle though? I think most can see he needs a loan. But there's also the real need for him or Tezgel to play instead of both of the two mentioned above. |
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Post by stokeyank on Jan 25, 2024 19:14:25 GMT
Nowhere near ready for the first team. Needs a league 2 loan this year and a league 1 loan next year. I know he's only young but I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll make it here. But you think he'll get a League Two loan at 18 and a League one loan at 19? You really are clueless. Why not? Premier League teams loan their promising 18 and 19 year olds out to League one and Championship teams all the time. That's not to say it always works (see Liam Delap), but many lower league teams would be happy to have a talented youngster for a season. |
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Post by jokker on Jan 26, 2024 9:25:08 GMT
And if one of them is injured and we don't have the right to recall the other what then? We can develop both at the same time by "swopping seats". One plays, the other comes off the bench for the last 20-30 minutes. Then when the one is injured, the other is settled within the team that knows how to play him, because he's trained and played with them. What we have to stop doing is playing forwards who are not scoring goals for us. Which we won’t do because we have Mmaee and Campbell. We could do a lot of things, but we won’t. So you prefer forwards who don't score goals...guess Stoke deserves you. |
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