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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2023 15:15:49 GMT
Of those who started on Tuesday who would most of us want to see starting regularly next season? Pearson Maybe Sterling? Not sure people are enamored with the new keeper either. I like him and would but not sure that's a view in line with most. So I think there'd be one unanimous choice. But we don't need big changes  can't really say re the keeper yet, he's not had much to do Yes Pearson & Sterling, I think Wilmot is fine (if we can better then great), I wants to see if Laurent &/or Baker can play better now Pearson is here, suspect they can if so keep them Brown,Cambpell keepers for sure at the end of the day those under contract are likely to stay They are I agree. I'd happily get rid of Laurent still. He leaves a lot to be desired. Would love to see Gayle go. But no one is daft enough to take him. We need a massive summer. 1 GK 2 CB 2 RBs (if we're binning Edwards) 2 LBs 2/3 CM 1/2 AMs 2/3 Wingers 2 strikers And I think that's being fairly conservative. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2023 15:19:39 GMT
Why is it? We are where we are because very few of them are to the standard required. We've had 4 seasons in this hell hole and the play offs have never looked like being remotely close and look further away than ever. The whole club needs a reset nevermind the players. Keeping the same old shit is dangerous. We need a revolution at this club. I don't disagree that many of them aren't good enough. The results speak for themselves. But you're not adressing any of the concerns I raise, you're only continuing the "they're all shit, get rid" mindless crap. Simple solutions are wrong more often than not. I'm not saying we keep them all. Don't be so black and white. I'm saying we need to keep some of them, maybe half the squad. And you know, revolutions are really dangerous. How many are successful in getting something better? Be careful what you wish for. Because I don't think they are concerns that outweigh the concern that this squad is absolutely fucking shit that's why! I'd keep 5 players. We are likely to keep most of the contracted players but that's not many and is less than half of the squad I think. I don't think anyone out of contract will get a new one and rightly so. Be careful what I wish for? Oh please spare me. 6 years of absolute shite with no hope at the end of the tunnel epitomised by people hoping things will change whilst having no evidence it will. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2023 15:22:24 GMT
Of those who started on Tuesday who would most of us want to see starting regularly next season? Pearson Maybe Sterling? Not sure people are enamored with the new keeper either. I like him and would but not sure that's a view in line with most. So I think there'd be one unanimous choice. But we don't need big changes Sarkic ? Wilmot Sterling ? Pearson Laurent Campbell Of those that didn't start Tymon Powell Tuanzebe? Celina? Baker Happy to keep as squad players Taylor Thompson Brown DWP? It's over half a squad. ? not convinced we've seen enough of them to make a proper judgement. I think Wilmot and Laurent will stay but neither are better than bench options. I really don't like Laurent. Wilmot started promisingly but has fallen off a cliff this season. The only 4 players we own that I'd keep are Taylor, Campbell, Powell and DWP. I said 5 above, I forget the 5th was Souttar  |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 17, 2023 15:26:57 GMT
Sarkic ? Wilmot Sterling ? Pearson Laurent Campbell Of those that didn't start Tymon Powell Tuanzebe? Celina? Baker Happy to keep as squad players Taylor Thompson Brown DWP? It's over half a squad. ? not convinced we've seen enough of them to make a proper judgement. I think Wilmot and Laurent will stay but neither are better than bench options. I really don't like Laurent. Wilmot started promisingly but has fallen off a cliff this season. The only 4 players we own that I'd keep are Taylor, Campbell, Powell and DWP. I said 5 above, I forget the 5th was Souttar Yeah well I'm not quite sure what goes on in your head. Once you've critisised a player it's like you are not humble enough to alter your opinion. In short you have a very high opinion of your opinion in other words you're up your own arse. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2023 15:49:16 GMT
I think Wilmot and Laurent will stay but neither are better than bench options. I really don't like Laurent. Wilmot started promisingly but has fallen off a cliff this season. The only 4 players we own that I'd keep are Taylor, Campbell, Powell and DWP. I said 5 above, I forget the 5th was Souttar Yeah well I'm not quite sure what goes on in your head. Once you've critisised a player it's like you are not humble enough to alter your opinion. In short you have a very high opinion of your opinion in other words you're up your own arse. Of course I am, a player I don't like in Smallbone I have given MOM twice in a row. A player I did like in Wilmot, I think has fallen off a cliff. Just two examples to show you're chatting shit. |
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Post by lordb on Feb 17, 2023 15:55:04 GMT
Yeah well I'm not quite sure what goes on in your head. Once you've critisised a player it's like you are not humble enough to alter your opinion. In short you have a very high opinion of your opinion in other words you're up your own arse. Of course I am, a player I don't like in Smallbone I have given MOM twice in a row. A player I did like in Wilmot, I think has fallen off a cliff. Just two examples to show you're chatting shit. I think Wilmott has been pretty similar to last season only he give the ball away less often |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2023 15:57:16 GMT
Of course I am, a player I don't like in Smallbone I have given MOM twice in a row. A player I did like in Wilmot, I think has fallen off a cliff. Just two examples to show you're chatting shit. I think Wilmott has been pretty similar to last season only he give the ball away less often He's been way worse with the ball this season. And added being positionally naive to his repertoire. I think we'll keep him but he needs to be back up. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 17, 2023 16:02:36 GMT
I really think Fox is a better defender than Tymon and should be our left back in a back four. Tymon is unbelievable bad one on one defensively, and we really need an upgrade for next season at left back. Tymon is a good attacking wingback at this level, but he isn't a fullback in my opinion. If we can get £1M + for him in the summer I'd sell him. I'd also give Fox a two-year-extension, but just as our back up option.  |
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Post by idle on Feb 17, 2023 16:11:34 GMT
6 years of absolute shite with no hope at the end of the tunnel epitomised by people hoping things will change whilst having no evidence it will. You think it couldn't get worse? Why don't you ask Bolton, Ipswich and Derby about that. Even Sunderland and Leeds spent years in the third tier. We've been in the third tier before. It could happen again. We don't have a divine right to be a top team. You thinking we could replace all those players with better ones is wishful thinking. We're not an attractive team to play for anymore! Look at the previous window: Porteous - no chance in hell Cresswell - opted to stay on loan at fucking Millwall instead of going to us Connolly - went to Hull Darlow - went to Hull and probably a few more that said no. So again, even with our glorious transfer team (who by the way have signed every single one of those players you want to kick) having a superb window, we still won't be nowhere near ready to challenge for the playoffs. And of those you want to keep are on loan. If Bournemouth go down Pearson will stay there. Sterling is a possible signing, that's true. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2023 16:20:16 GMT
6 years of absolute shite with no hope at the end of the tunnel epitomised by people hoping things will change whilst having no evidence it will. You think it couldn't get worse? Why don't you ask Bolton, Ipswich and Derby about that. Even Sunderland and Leeds spent years in the third tier. We've been in the third tier before. It could happen again. We don't have a divine right to be a top team. You thinking we could replace all those players with better ones is wishful thinking. We're not an attractive team to play for anymore! Look at the previous window: Porteous - no chance in hell Cresswell - opted to stay on loan at fucking Millwall instead of going to us Connolly - went to Hull Darlow - went to Hull and probably a few more that said no. So again, even with our glorious transfer team (who by the way have signed every single one of those players you want to kick) having a superb window, we still won't be nowhere near ready to challenge for the playoffs. And of those you want to keep are on loan. If Bournemouth go down Pearson will stay there. Sterling is a possible signing, that's true. 10 years earning PL money backed by billionaire owners should give you as bigger right as any though. Squandered. We signed two players on loan in Tuanzebe and Pearson who are of far more stature and quality than all of the above combined really. So that really doesn't fly with me. This squad needs a massive overhaul and I fully believe it will happen. |
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Post by idle on Feb 17, 2023 16:25:20 GMT
We signed two players on loan in Tuanzebe and Pearson who are of far more stature and quality than all of the above combined really. So that really doesn't fly with me. This squad needs a massive overhaul and I fully believe it will happen. Both on loan, and IMO less than 25% chance will sign on a permanent deal. But I hope you're right and it pays off. This is ANs true test |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 17, 2023 16:53:26 GMT
I really think Fox is a better defender than Tymon and should be our left back in a back four. Tymon is unbelievable bad one on one defensively, and we really need an upgrade for next season at left back. Tymon is a good attacking wingback at this level, but he isn't a fullback in my opinion. If we can get £1M + for him in the summer I'd sell him. I'd also give Fox a two-year-extension, but just as our back up option. I think you need to lie down. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2023 17:51:19 GMT
We signed two players on loan in Tuanzebe and Pearson who are of far more stature and quality than all of the above combined really. So that really doesn't fly with me. This squad needs a massive overhaul and I fully believe it will happen. Both on loan, and IMO less than 25% chance will sign on a permanent deal. But I hope you're right and it pays off. This is ANs true test They are but loans always play a big part in this league and if you can get them right they go a long way. We've had too many for sure. 3 would be ideal and of a real quality to make a difference. I think you can tell AN hates this squad and I don't see anything but changes. We have a great opportunity for it too. This is from another thread, these are the contracted players for next season: GK ----------- RB/RWB Edwards 2024 LB/LWB Tymon, McCarron 2025 CB Wilmot, Taylor 2025 MID Thompson 2024 Baker, Laurent 2025 ATT Campbell, DWP, Gayle 2024 Brown, Tezgel 2025 Maybe Bonham will get a cheap deal, I wouldn't do that because I think he's third choice standard. Maybe Fox will but even as someone who likes Fox tbh, I wouldn't go anywhere near that. I can't see the rest getting close to a new deal. I can see Baker and Campbell being sold, which I think would be a shame but with Brown's and Gayle's contracts and Gayle's lack of value then I don't think there's much other options there to change our attack. Which is terrifying. And the talk around Laurent wanting out I think was close to the money (gut feeling) so I wouldn't be shocked to see something happen there either. The contract players list gives me hope bar the attackers tbh. I'd love it if Gayle and Brown weren't here next season but that's just me and I can't see it happening. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 17, 2023 18:33:33 GMT
I think Wilmott has been pretty similar to last season only he give the ball away less often He's been way worse with the ball this season. And added being positionally naive to his repertoire. I think we'll keep him but he needs to be back up. Way worse with the ball but still a country mile ahead of the blokes he’s playing with in the defensive line. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 17, 2023 18:34:19 GMT
I really think Fox is a better defender than Tymon and should be our left back in a back four. Tymon is unbelievable bad one on one defensively, and we really need an upgrade for next season at left back. Tymon is a good attacking wingback at this level, but he isn't a fullback in my opinion. If we can get £1M + for him in the summer I'd sell him. I'd also give Fox a two-year-extension, but just as our back up option. I think you need to lie down. I think you need to upgrade your glasses!  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2023 18:48:35 GMT
He's been way worse with the ball this season. And added being positionally naive to his repertoire. I think we'll keep him but he needs to be back up. Way worse with the ball but still a country mile ahead of the blokes he’s playing with in the defensive line. Which means they all need replacing. Glad we agree. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 17, 2023 18:57:29 GMT
Way worse with the ball but still a country mile ahead of the blokes he’s playing with in the defensive line. Which means they all need replacing. Glad we agree. We don’t. I think Wilmot will mature into one of the best very CB’s at this level. He’s made some costly mistakes but if you can’t see how much bigger part he plays in this team than the others he regularly plays with there’s something wrong with your eyesight. I’ve no time for passengers who don’t make many mistakes because they don’t do very much. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2023 19:17:09 GMT
Which means they all need replacing. Glad we agree. We don’t. I think Wilmot will mature into one of the best very CB’s at this level. He’s made some costly mistakes but if you can’t see how much bigger part he plays in this team than the others he regularly plays with there’s something wrong with your eyesight. I’ve no time for passengers who don’t make many mistakes because they don’t do very much. He plays a big part in a team that is awful. That’s not something to use as a defence of him! |
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Post by stokeyank on Feb 17, 2023 19:42:03 GMT
Which means they all need replacing. Glad we agree. We don’t. I think Wilmot will mature into one of the best very CB’s at this level. He’s made some costly mistakes but if you can’t see how much bigger part he plays in this team than the others he regularly plays with there’s something wrong with your eyesight. I’ve no time for passengers who don’t make many mistakes because they don’t do very much. Wilmont is definitely a better option than Fox. Mature into one of the best at this level, I can't see it. I sincerely hope you are right, though and can see where you are coming from. He's shown glimpses of that ability but I don't see it enough to make me think that will happen. I think he's worth keeping but at the current rate he's at a backup standard. |
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Post by thepottypotter on Feb 17, 2023 20:45:58 GMT
Why is it? We are where we are because very few of them are to the standard required. We've had 4 seasons in this hell hole and the play offs have never looked like being remotely close and look further away than ever. The whole club needs a reset nevermind the players. Keeping the same old shit is dangerous. We need a revolution at this club. I don't disagree that many of them aren't good enough. The results speak for themselves. But you're not adressing any of the concerns I raise, you're only continuing the "they're all shit, get rid" mindless crap. Simple solutions are wrong more often than not. I'm not saying we keep them all. Don't be so black and white. I'm saying we need to keep some of them, maybe half the squad. And you know, revolutions are really dangerous. How many are successful in getting something better? Be careful what you wish for. The 1917 Russian revolution ended World War I |
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Post by lordb on Feb 17, 2023 21:21:48 GMT
I don't disagree that many of them aren't good enough. The results speak for themselves. But you're not adressing any of the concerns I raise, you're only continuing the "they're all shit, get rid" mindless crap. Simple solutions are wrong more often than not. I'm not saying we keep them all. Don't be so black and white. I'm saying we need to keep some of them, maybe half the squad. And you know, revolutions are really dangerous. How many are successful in getting something better? Be careful what you wish for. The 1917 Russian revolution ended World War I Hmm Did it? |
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 17, 2023 21:38:11 GMT
The 1917 Russian revolution ended World War I Hmm Did it? You're right , it didn't! |
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Post by idle on Feb 17, 2023 21:44:39 GMT
The 1917 Russian revolution ended World War I Hmm Did it? For Russia it did |
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Post by hotterpotter on Feb 17, 2023 21:48:32 GMT
Is he actually a fox though? 🦊
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Post by lordb on Feb 17, 2023 21:51:56 GMT
That bit is true although had there not been a revolution Russia wasn't far off surrendering anyway I reckon Leon Trotsky would make a better left back than Fox (although left wing was his best position) |
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Post by thepottypotter on Feb 17, 2023 21:59:01 GMT
Not just Russia out of the war, it inspired and started a massive period of international mass working class struggle. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1917%E2%80%931923en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Days_That_Shook_the_WorldIn Britain, even the cops went on strike in 1918!! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918%E2%80%9319_British_police_strikesThere was a German revolution led by Rosa Luxembourg and Karl Liebnickt which pulled Germany out of the war. Sadly, I don’t have time to explain why, but it failed and was repressed. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%931919Suffice it to say if the revolution if Germany had succeeded, and real democracy ‘international socialism’ had transpired, the world would be unrecognisable from today. No Hitler, no Nazis, no global warming, endless wars and imperialism. In short, humanity has had a lost century. Not a utopia at all but a world actually built on human need, not greed and profit. It’s still the only real solution to give our species a realistic chance of not making ourselves extinct (thermonuclear weapons, climate change, pandemics) |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 18, 2023 10:33:03 GMT
Not just Russia out of the war, it inspired and started a massive period of international mass working class struggle. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1917%E2%80%931923en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Days_That_Shook_the_WorldIn Britain, even the cops went on strike in 1918!! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918%E2%80%9319_British_police_strikesThere was a German revolution led by Rosa Luxembourg and Karl Liebnickt which pulled Germany out of the war. Sadly, I don’t have time to explain why, but it failed and was repressed. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%931919Suffice it to say if the revolution if Germany had succeeded, and real democracy ‘international socialism’ had transpired, the world would be unrecognisable from today. No Hitler, no Nazis, no global warming, endless wars and imperialism. In short, humanity has had a lost century. Not a utopia at all but a world actually built on human need, not greed and profit. It’s still the only real solution to give our species a realistic chance of not making ourselves extinct (thermonuclear weapons, climate change, pandemics) Excellent way to kill a thread 😂 |
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Post by slash on Feb 18, 2023 15:54:53 GMT
i can't stand this fucker being on the pitch each week and us seeing fuck all for it.
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Post by tejstokie on Feb 18, 2023 15:57:27 GMT
I defended him last match but hoof, he's been uber wank versus a terrible side today so far. Some of his crosses looked worse than a goalkeeping clearance to the rafters. Defensively he let their man run along the box for the shot that bounced off Jags in I believe. I'd drop him for Hoever second half.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Feb 18, 2023 15:58:02 GMT
i can't stand this fucker being on the pitch each week and us seeing fuck all for it. Yeah play that other left back we have !! |
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