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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 9, 2023 12:19:49 GMT
New Portugal manager
How does he keep getting these big jobs???
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jan 9, 2023 12:22:36 GMT
By getting Belgium amongst the Top 4 teams in the world for the past half a dozen years! He may have been seen to have underachieved but you can't really be outraged at the appointment.
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 9, 2023 12:25:42 GMT
By getting Belgium amongst the Top 4 teams in the world for the past half a dozen years! He may have been seen to have underachieved but you can't really be outraged at the appointment. I disagree, he had one of the best (if not THE best) collective group of players in the world and created mediocrity. He didn't coach them to be the best.
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Post by callas12 on Jan 9, 2023 12:40:45 GMT
New Portugal manager How does he keep getting these big jobs??? My thoughts exactly.. Blokes a charlatan but keeps being linked to & getting big jobs!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2023 12:43:51 GMT
By getting Belgium amongst the Top 4 teams in the world for the past half a dozen years! He may have been seen to have underachieved but you can't really be outraged at the appointment. I disagree, he had one of the best (if not THE best) collective group of players in the world and created mediocrity. He didn't coach them to be the best. He was very unlucky in Russia, that France Belgium semi was very similar to our game with France this time. France scored from their only chance and defended the rest of the time
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jan 9, 2023 12:47:16 GMT
I disagree, he had one of the best (if not THE best) collective group of players in the world and created mediocrity. He didn't coach them to be the best. He was very unlucky in Russia, that France Belgium semi was very similar to our game with France this time. France scored from their only chance and defended the rest of the time That's not unlucky, it's just not being good enough to beat France!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 9, 2023 12:49:40 GMT
By getting Belgium amongst the Top 4 teams in the world for the past half a dozen years! He may have been seen to have underachieved but you can't really be outraged at the appointment. Belgium were 2nd in the FIFA World Rankings when he was appointed in 2016, when he left they were 4th........
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Jan 9, 2023 13:01:08 GMT
Biggest charlatan in football, he's been failing upwards for more than a decade.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 9, 2023 13:11:40 GMT
By getting Belgium amongst the Top 4 teams in the world for the past half a dozen years! He may have been seen to have underachieved but you can't really be outraged at the appointment. He under performed with the squad that he had, fair play to him though, he must interview well.
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Post by chigstoke on Jan 9, 2023 13:15:16 GMT
By getting Belgium amongst the Top 4 teams in the world for the past half a dozen years! He may have been seen to have underachieved but you can't really be outraged at the appointment. He under performed with the squad that he had, fair play to him though, he must interview well. I’ll be getting in contact with him and Paul Lambert for tips I think, they obviously know something the rest of us don’t when it comes to interviews.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2023 13:44:15 GMT
New Portugal manager How does he keep getting these big jobs??? I’d say that international management isn’t the “big job” it may have once been. It’s full of has-beens and never-haves.
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Post by lordb on Jan 9, 2023 14:07:08 GMT
New Portugal manager How does he keep getting these big jobs??? I’d say that international management isn’t the “big job” it may have once been. It’s full of has-beens and never-haves. That's not unfair all the same have to be surprised Portugal couldn't do better than Martinez
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Post by maine on Jan 9, 2023 14:10:23 GMT
He's an excellent,intelligent manager who I'd be happy to see at Stoke, hopefully not too soon though as I'm still mildly optimistic providing that Neil is allowed to do his job without interference.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 9, 2023 14:12:53 GMT
He must have a good agent
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2023 14:57:08 GMT
I’d say that international management isn’t the “big job” it may have once been. It’s full of has-beens and never-haves. That's not unfair all the same have to be surprised Portugal couldn't do better than Martinez For me, what I dislike the most is that different rules apply for managers than players. It’s a National team. I’d prefer rules that forced that consistency.
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Post by duckling on Jan 9, 2023 18:12:01 GMT
He under performed with the squad that he had, fair play to him though, he must interview well. I read an article when he was appointed to the Belgium position that they interviewed him and Louis van Gaal. Martinez went to the interview with detailed analysis dossiers and a great PowerPoint slideshow. It was clear that he had done a lot of preparation for the interview, and the hiring committee was very impressed. On the other hand van Gaal tried to wing it and left the committee unimpressed. So you're right, Martinez interviews well. As far as Martinez as a manager, I don't think he's nearly as bad as his critics say. Third place at the World Cup, losing only to the eventual winners, is very good. It's not like the subsequent managers at Wigan or Everton have done better. I have always enjoyed watching his teams play. As an American, I was hoping he would be hired for our team. But he's not well-connected to anyone high up in the federation. Our federation is a rotting pit of nepotism and cronyism.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jan 9, 2023 18:15:41 GMT
He under performed with the squad that he had, fair play to him though, he must interview well. I read an article when he was appointed to the Belgium position that they interviewed him and Louis van Gaal. Martinez went to the interview with detailed analysis dossiers and a great PowerPoint slideshow. It was clear that he had done a lot of preparation for the interview, and the hiring committee was very impressed. On the other hand van Gaal tried to wing it and left the committee unimpressed. So you're right, Martinez interviews well. As far as Martinez as a manager, I don't think he's nearly as bad as his critics say. It's not like the subsequent managers at Wigan or Everton have done better. I have always enjoyed watching his teams play. As an American, I was hoping he would be hired for our team. But he's not well-connected to anyone high up in the federation. Our federation is a rotting pit of nepotism and cronyism. Especially after recent events. When soccer parents go wild!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 9, 2023 18:44:55 GMT
There is considerable irony in stoke calling managers crap id have him here over anyone since hughes in a flash
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Post by callas12 on Jan 9, 2023 19:28:33 GMT
I read an article when he was appointed to the Belgium position that they interviewed him and Louis van Gaal. Martinez went to the interview with detailed analysis dossiers and a great PowerPoint slideshow. It was clear that he had done a lot of preparation for the interview, and the hiring committee was very impressed. On the other hand van Gaal tried to wing it and left the committee unimpressed. So you're right, Martinez interviews well. As far as Martinez as a manager, I don't think he's nearly as bad as his critics say. It's not like the subsequent managers at Wigan or Everton have done better. I have always enjoyed watching his teams play. As an American, I was hoping he would be hired for our team. But he's not well-connected to anyone high up in the federation. Our federation is a rotting pit of nepotism and cronyism. Especially after recent events. When soccer parents go wild! There's a saying that people who interview well aren't always the best person for the job. Some folk just talk the talk & have a knack of hitting all the bullet points. Nathan Jones and Lambert apparently shone in their Stoke interviews & again especially in Jones case gave detailed indepth accounts of squad stats & figures. Interview techniques aside, think I'd rather have Van Gaal as a manager of my club than Martinez. All opinions though
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Post by duckling on Jan 10, 2023 0:13:52 GMT
I'd be very interested to know what language he plans to communicate with the Portuguese players in. I had three co-workers, one from Brazil, one from Chile, one from Argentina. The Chilean and Argentinian spoke to the Brazilian in Spanish. The Brazilian responded in Portuguese. They seemed to communicate fine.
So on the one hand it seems that the Portuguese players would probably understand Martinez if he spoke to them in Spanish. On the other hand, it seems that the languages are extremely similar, so it probably would be easy for him to learn Portuguese.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 10, 2023 6:38:56 GMT
I'd be very interested to know what language he plans to communicate with the Portuguese players in. I had three co-workers, one from Brazil, one from Chile, one from Argentina. The Chilean and Argentinian spoke to the Brazilian in Spanish. The Brazilian responded in Portuguese. They seemed to communicate fine. So on the one hand it seems that the Portuguese players would probably understand Martinez if he spoke to them in Spanish. On the other hand, it seems that the languages are extremely similar, so it probably would be easy for him to learn Portuguese. They look similar but sound completely different when spoken
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 10, 2023 8:24:14 GMT
Especially after recent events. When soccer parents go wild! There's a saying that people who interview well aren't always the best person for the job. Some folk just talk the talk & have a knack of hitting all the bullet points. Nathan Jones and Lambert apparently shone in their Stoke interviews & again especially in Jones case gave detailed indepth accounts of squad stats & figures. Interview techniques aside, think I'd rather have Van Gaal as a manager of my club than Martinez. All opinions though Agreed. It's a complete no-brainer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2023 13:36:57 GMT
If we could swap him for Alex Neil, I'd say do it right now.
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 10, 2023 13:39:52 GMT
By getting Belgium amongst the Top 4 teams in the world for the past half a dozen years! He may have been seen to have underachieved but you can't really be outraged at the appointment. Belgium were 2nd in the FIFA World Rankings when he was appointed in 2016, when he left they were 4th........ Those rankings mean nothing It’s trophies that count And Martinez won nothing nor was he close to winning anything
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