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Post by J-Roar on Dec 31, 2022 11:08:23 GMT
No idea. He was shite yesterday. I don't think he was. And the reaction from the usual suspect cunts around me who need a whipping boy was embarrassing. 'Look at me' seat slammers who think the louder you scream your one-eyed shit the funnier you are are the dullest cunts you could ever wish to meet. There's a triangle of them round us who set each other off.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 31, 2022 11:10:57 GMT
No idea. He was shite yesterday. I don't think he was. And the reaction from the usual suspect cunts around me who need a whipping boy was embarrassing. 'Look at me' seat slammers who think the louder you scream your one-eyed shit the funnier you are are the dullest cunts you could ever wish to meet. There's a triangle of them round us who set each other off. He was bollocks. You’ve clearly fallen for his act of arriving a fraction too late and it looking like he’s trying. He’s a uslesss lazy shit.
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 31, 2022 11:12:36 GMT
I don't think he was. And the reaction from the usual suspect cunts around me who need a whipping boy was embarrassing. 'Look at me' seat slammers who think the louder you scream your one-eyed shit the funnier you are are the dullest cunts you could ever wish to meet. There's a triangle of them round us who set each other off. He was bollocks. You’ve clearly fallen for his act of arriving a fraction too late and it looking like he’s trying. He’s a uslesss lazy shit. Agree to disagree.
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 31, 2022 11:15:36 GMT
I don't think he was. And the reaction from the usual suspect cunts around me who need a whipping boy was embarrassing. 'Look at me' seat slammers who think the louder you scream your one-eyed shit the funnier you are are the dullest cunts you could ever wish to meet. There's a triangle of them round us who set each other off. He was bollocks. You’ve clearly fallen for his act of arriving a fraction too late and it looking like he’s trying. He’s a uslesss lazy shit. Totally disagree, he lead the press really well, nicked a few balls and had their defence passing backwards all the time. MOM for me (for Stoke anyway, their right winger whose name I don't know was head and shoulders above the rest, the only footballer on the pitch).
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 31, 2022 11:17:26 GMT
No idea. He was shite yesterday. I don't think he was. And the reaction from the usual suspect cunts around me who need a whipping boy was embarrassing. 'Look at me' seat slammers who think the louder you scream your one-eyed shit the funnier you are are the dullest cunts you could ever wish to meet. There's a triangle of them round us who set each other off. Where do you sit J-Roar?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 31, 2022 11:19:24 GMT
He was bollocks. You’ve clearly fallen for his act of arriving a fraction too late and it looking like he’s trying. He’s a uslesss lazy shit. Totally disagree, he lead the press really well, nicked a few balls and had their defence passing backwards all the time. MOM for me (for Stoke anyway, their right winger whose name I don't know was head and shoulders above the rest, the only footballer on the pitch). He doesn’t win the ball though. He just runs around not getting to it and then carries on not reading the game not very well. It’s all a farce. The worst footballer I’ve had the misfortune watching regularly for us. And if AN carries on with him I’ll soon be in the wanting him fucked off camp.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 31, 2022 11:46:11 GMT
He touched the ball 20 times 😂😂 And made 8 passes. Quality game 😂😂😂
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Post by jhtstokie on Dec 31, 2022 11:50:17 GMT
He was bollocks. You’ve clearly fallen for his act of arriving a fraction too late and it looking like he’s trying. He’s a uslesss lazy shit. Totally disagree, he lead the press really well, nicked a few balls and had their defence passing backwards all the time. MOM for me (for Stoke anyway, their right winger whose name I don't know was head and shoulders above the rest, the only footballer on the pitch). I’m not buying into the whole “he presses well”. Anybody can press, but when does he actually win the ball? When does he actually put a tackle in? When does he pick a good pass? All I see is a lightweight plodder.
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 31, 2022 13:52:30 GMT
Totally disagree, he lead the press really well, nicked a few balls and had their defence passing backwards all the time. MOM for me (for Stoke anyway, their right winger whose name I don't know was head and shoulders above the rest, the only footballer on the pitch). I’m not buying into the whole “he presses well”. Anybody can press, but when does he actually win the ball? When does he actually put a tackle in? When does he pick a good pass? All I see is a lightweight plodder. He won the ball several times in the first half, just little nicks which often ran to another Stoke player. My husband who played semi professionally and is a big football fan but not a Stoke fan in any shape or form (has always hated us) came with me yesterday and Smallbone was the Stoke player who impressed him most - it is very rare for him to have anything good to say about Stoke players these days - thinks Campbell and Souttar are extremely overrated by Stoke fans, likes Powell and can't understand why he didn't start, can 't understand why Wright Phillips isn't playing and that's about it. He said Stoke's whole game was built around Smallbone's pressing and thought it was a very even game between two poor teams and although Burnley had better technical players Stoke's tactics worked much better until Smallbone went off. That is high praise from him for Stoke.
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Post by musik on Dec 31, 2022 14:10:31 GMT
When does he actually put a tackle in? He must have had a nasty injury once.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 31, 2022 14:23:59 GMT
I’m not buying into the whole “he presses well”. Anybody can press, but when does he actually win the ball? When does he actually put a tackle in? When does he pick a good pass? All I see is a lightweight plodder. He won the ball several times in the first half, just little nicks which often ran to another Stoke player. My husband who played semi professionally and is a big football fan but not a Stoke fan in any shape or form (has always hated us) came with me yesterday and Smallbone was the Stoke player who impressed him most - it is very rare for him to have anything good to say about Stoke players these days - thinks Campbell and Souttar are extremely overrated by Stoke fans, likes Powell and can't understand why he didn't start, can 't understand why Wright Phillips isn't playing and that's about it. He said Stoke's whole game was built around Smallbone's pressing and thought it was a very even game between two poor teams and although Burnley had better technical players Stoke's tactics worked much better until Smallbone went off. That is high praise from him for Stoke. He touched the ball 20 times and passed it 8 times (he tried 10). To base your game around such a shit footballer (and I agree with your husband that we did) is fucking mad. He’s terrible at it.
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Post by senojbor on Dec 31, 2022 14:37:44 GMT
It's not just him though is it. We've managed to sign and loan a pile of 2nd rate junk shop players. To think we once saw the likes of Matthews, Banks and Hudson and we've sunk to this level. Disgrace and I blame the owners for letting it happen
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Post by dave1 on Dec 31, 2022 15:10:10 GMT
I agree that Smallbone is generally shite but I agree with J-Roar in that he played OK last night (in the first half anyway).
He was the only one pressing there goalkeeper (who played like a sweeper) and there defenders! There distribution wasn't great so I'm pretty sure that we'd have had a lot more joy if our forwards and midfield followed suit, and pressed!
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Post by nott1 on Dec 31, 2022 16:11:18 GMT
I agree that Smallbone is generally shite but I agree with J-Roar in that he played OK last night (in the first half anyway). He was the only one pressing there goalkeeper (who played like a sweeper) and there defenders! There distribution wasn't great so I'm pretty sure that we'd have had a lot more joy if our forwards and midfield followed suit, and pressed! Please look up there and their.
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 31, 2022 16:52:26 GMT
He won the ball several times in the first half, just little nicks which often ran to another Stoke player. My husband who played semi professionally and is a big football fan but not a Stoke fan in any shape or form (has always hated us) came with me yesterday and Smallbone was the Stoke player who impressed him most - it is very rare for him to have anything good to say about Stoke players these days - thinks Campbell and Souttar are extremely overrated by Stoke fans, likes Powell and can't understand why he didn't start, can 't understand why Wright Phillips isn't playing and that's about it. He said Stoke's whole game was built around Smallbone's pressing and thought it was a very even game between two poor teams and although Burnley had better technical players Stoke's tactics worked much better until Smallbone went off. That is high praise from him for Stoke. He touched the ball 20 times and passed it 8 times (he tried 10). To base your game around such a shit footballer (and I agree with your husband that we did) is fucking mad. He’s terrible at it. Meaningless stats without the stats of the other players to compare. I suspect those are quite high for a Stoke player in the attacking third. My guess would be that none of the other forwards touched the ball more than 10 times and how many passes did the other midfield players attempt/complete?
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Post by dave1 on Dec 31, 2022 16:52:39 GMT
I agree that Smallbone is generally shite but I agree with J-Roar in that he played OK last night (in the first half anyway). He was the only one pressing there goalkeeper (who played like a sweeper) and there defenders! There distribution wasn't great so I'm pretty sure that we'd have had a lot more joy if our forwards and midfield followed suit, and pressed! Please look up there and their. Admin have taken my response down, which is a joke! But that aside, I know the difference, thanks. I'll leave off what I finished my previous reply with!
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Post by nott1 on Dec 31, 2022 17:01:08 GMT
Please look up there and their. Admin have taken my response down, which is a joke! But that aside, I know the difference, thanks. I'll leave off what I finished my previous reply with! You did not know when you wrote it!
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Post by dave1 on Dec 31, 2022 17:04:04 GMT
Admin have taken my response down, which is a joke! But that aside, I know the difference, thanks. I'll leave off what I finished my previous reply with! You did not know when you wrote it! I did, I just didn't realise that what I was writing was going to be 'assessed' by some nobody on here!!!
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 31, 2022 17:07:53 GMT
He didn’t do a lot wrong last night, mainly because he was barely involved other than the odd token chase down. Really poor signing overall. No idea what he is.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 31, 2022 17:07:56 GMT
You did not know when you wrote it! I did, I just didn't realise that what I was writing was going to be 'assessed' by some nobody on here!!! I will be watching
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 31, 2022 17:16:14 GMT
He touched the ball 20 times and passed it 8 times (he tried 10). To base your game around such a shit footballer (and I agree with your husband that we did) is fucking mad. He’s terrible at it. Meaningless stats without the stats of the other players to compare. I suspect those are quite high for a Stoke player in the attacking third. My guess would be that none of the other forwards touched the ball more than 10 times and how many passes did the other midfield players attempt/complete? They’re awful stats for any midfielder irrespective of anyone else. Of the starters only Tymon had less touches (17) and passing the attackers did nothing in all fairness, Campbell and Baker attempted 12, Brown attempted 8. An attacking shit show.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 31, 2022 17:16:24 GMT
It's not just him though is it. We've managed to sign and loan a pile of 2nd rate junk shop players. To think we once saw the likes of Matthews, Banks and Hudson and we've sunk to this level. Disgrace and I blame the owners for letting it happen Some good points and it also may have a lot to do with the FFP nonsense.
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 31, 2022 17:45:49 GMT
Meaningless stats without the stats of the other players to compare. I suspect those are quite high for a Stoke player in the attacking third. My guess would be that none of the other forwards touched the ball more than 10 times and how many passes did the other midfield players attempt/complete? They’re awful stats for any midfielder irrespective of anyone else. Of the starters only Tymon had less touches (17) and passing the attackers did nothing in all fairness, Campbell and Baker attempted 12, Brown attempted 8. An attacking shit show. Not hugely relevant but reminds me of one of the more amusing stats when Lukaku played the whole match for Chelsea and had one touch which was the kickoff at the beginning of the game😂😂
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Post by metalhead on Dec 31, 2022 17:46:30 GMT
No idea. He was shite yesterday. I don't think he was. And the reaction from the usual suspect cunts around me who need a whipping boy was embarrassing. 'Look at me' seat slammers who think the louder you scream your one-eyed shit the funnier you are are the dullest cunts you could ever wish to meet. There's a triangle of them round us who set each other off. Yes he was. He has been poor throughout the season and was extremely poor at times yesterday. He probably wasn't the worst and that makes him not shite in some peoples eyes, fair enough. His favourite party trick at the moment is bottling 50/50's and he did it several times last night.
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Post by stokeoptimist on Dec 31, 2022 17:47:31 GMT
He didn’t do a lot wrong last night, mainly because he was barely involved other than the odd token chase down. Really poor signing overall. No idea what he is. You must have watched a different game than me or you have an agenda. I thought he was the best player on the pitch in the first half, he was everywhere closing them down.
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Post by steinosjockstrap on Dec 31, 2022 17:55:24 GMT
I thought he was probably the best for pressing last night. Yes, he is usually a split second late, but as said he did nick it a few times. I also think it as quite noticeable that when he went off, the pressing disappeared. Can't say as I am particularly impressed by him, but if pressing is the way forward, he's probably the better option. Powell certainly wouldn't do it. Talking of Powell, is he playing for a move?
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Post by robstokie on Dec 31, 2022 17:55:46 GMT
Every week, his name appears among the starters, and yet I've only seen him play well twice (at most). The bloke's a complete fairy- lightweight, timid in the tackle- and completely unsuited to the battleground that is a Championship midfield. It's not even like he's particularly good on the ball. His passing I'd say is no better than average, and he doesn't seem the type to go past people either. I don't know what he's supposed to offer- he's a complete nothing player, yet the manager seems to have an inexplicable hard-on for him. His constant inclusion is a massive reason why we are where we are. He's effectively a young, white, bald Sawyer's ain't he? So lightweight it's laughable, kills momentum in possession with silly flicks that turn the ball over or unimaginative backwards passes. Doesn't offer anything behind the ball or any threat, even when in good positions. Powell starts from hereon in, maybe that Pritchard lad if we are bringing him in as a Powell replacement! Hopefully will be fucked off back to Southampton where the nutty dwarf sees him as the answer at the top of the diamond!
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 31, 2022 17:57:01 GMT
He didn’t do a lot wrong last night, mainly because he was barely involved other than the odd token chase down. Really poor signing overall. No idea what he is. You must have watched a different game than me or you have an agenda. I thought he was the best player on the pitch in the first half, he was everywhere closing them down. I said he didn’t really do a lot wrong. He wasn’t terrible and the fact he was one of the better players says just how bad we were last night. He’s just nothing. His pressing was OK but he’s generally late to the situation so just gets played around. I just think he’s been very poor all in all.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 31, 2022 18:13:06 GMT
Agree he tried to close them down last night, surely any professional footballer should be able to do that, we faded after the change because we put Laurent there for 10 mins way out of position and then Powell who is bone idle.
Says a lot about the state of us when we have a ño 10 who runs about a lot but hardly offers anything else.
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 31, 2022 18:47:07 GMT
I don't think he was. And the reaction from the usual suspect cunts around me who need a whipping boy was embarrassing. 'Look at me' seat slammers who think the louder you scream your one-eyed shit the funnier you are are the dullest cunts you could ever wish to meet. There's a triangle of them round us who set each other off. Where do you sit J-Roar? JS Lower. Look for Oscar Wilde, Peter Ustinov and Alan Bennett. I'm the one in the middle who's popped another rib listening to their repartee.
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