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Post by mickstupp on Dec 17, 2022 21:48:46 GMT
Workrate apparently 🤷‍♂️
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Post by stokeuk474 on Dec 17, 2022 22:08:29 GMT
I watched from the Brown goal and he was useless. Weak as piss and what was that corner about at the end? Why cross? And then it was so shit. Thick as. I thought exactly the same on that corner. Late in the game and we needed to keep the ball, he had a si.ple return pass on and we were in. Instead he decides to cross and that was wank and didn't beat the first man. Fucking brain less football
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 17, 2022 22:11:52 GMT
I watched from the Brown goal and he was useless. Weak as piss and what was that corner about at the end? Why cross? And then it was so shit. Thick as. I thought exactly the same on that corner. Late in the game and we needed to keep the ball, he had a si.ple return pass on and we were in. Instead he decides to cross and that was wank and didn't beat the first man. Fucking brain less football There was no logic to it at all. As you say he had an easy pass back to Campbell or Powell and then just dick around with it. I hate thick stuff like that.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 18, 2022 0:11:31 GMT
Zero creativity and one goal as an AM says it all. No, it doesn't! Zero creativity is your opinion by the way! He doesn't have any assists.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 18, 2022 8:49:39 GMT
No, it doesn't! Zero creativity is your opinion by the way! He doesn't have any assists. I think he is the one midfielder who really wants the ball and by that gives his team mates an outlet. That is only a part of being creative, because if nobody wants the ball and hides we won't be able to start many attacks. He is also very often the player who starts attacking moves, and in addition I think his defensive work is underrated too. I feel a lot of posters here just single him out as our worst player whatever he has done on the pitch. I think he really deserves his place in our starting 11 right now.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 18, 2022 8:55:07 GMT
Smallbone was excellent yesterday I thought and my MOTM. His movement off the ball was exceptional at times and created a whole load of space. In this rigid system that Neil is putting down you need runners and creators to break up the stodge and Smallbone certainly gave us the movement I thought.
He's not going to be the answer long term to what Neil wants I fear, and my ultimate fear is that the likes of these types of players are going to be replaced with runners and kickers (wouldn't be surprised to see Ryan Ledson and/or Alan Browne here by the summer at the latest...) but in the short term he's probably the best we can do for movement in that number 8/10 position.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2022 9:06:56 GMT
Smallbone was excellent yesterday I thought and my MOTM. His movement off the ball was exceptional at times and created a whole load of space. In this rigid system that Neil is putting down you need runners and creators to break up the stodge and Smallbone certainly gave us the movement I thought.
He's not going to be the answer long term to what Neil wants I fear, and my ultimate fear is that the likes of these types of players are going to be replaced with runners and kickers (wouldn't be surprised to see Ryan Ledson and/or Alan Browne here by the summer at the latest...) but in the short term he's probably the best we can do for movment in that number 8/10 position.
I'm not sure any of our players could be described as excellent yesterday mate, and definitely not Mr Smallbone.
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Dec 18, 2022 9:10:16 GMT
I quite like smallbone don’t think he’s as bad as some suggest, usually has a poor game when every other team mate has one.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 18, 2022 9:44:31 GMT
I quite like smallbone don’t think he’s as bad as some suggest, usually has a poor game when every other team mate has one. I don’t think he’s been any worse than who ever’s been alongside him.
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Post by mrrine on Dec 19, 2022 19:28:20 GMT
I quite like smallbone don’t think he’s as bad as some suggest, usually has a poor game when every other team mate has one. I don’t think he’s been any worse than who ever’s been alongside him. I suppose with the others, whilst they aren't always good at it, you know what they're supposed to be doing and if they're doing it well or not. With Smallbone - I have no idea what he's supposed to be doing *exactly*, but he: doesn't score goals, doesn't assist, doesn't defend, doesn't have guts in the challenge, doesn't head well. (I grant you he runs loads and has a fancy flick or two in his locker.) But the manager loves him and will keep on picking him.
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Post by Billy the kid on Dec 26, 2022 17:03:51 GMT
Today went about and did a number 6 out of 10 for passes 10 out of 10 for breaking up play and interceptions. This role in a team is completely overlooked. Today he was very good.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 26, 2022 17:04:53 GMT
He's a very average and limited player. Today he was exactly that. Gouranga.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 26, 2022 17:05:12 GMT
Got to agree with the title. Both are fucking terrible.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 26, 2022 17:05:27 GMT
Was excellent last week at Bristol City but far too many had made their minds up about him before the game.
He's a good footballer when used right.
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Post by lordb on Dec 26, 2022 17:06:28 GMT
Great through ball for Campbell first half
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Post by nonameface on Dec 26, 2022 17:06:31 GMT
No chance.
He's already played more decent minutes for us than Allen ever did.
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Post by lordb on Dec 26, 2022 17:13:25 GMT
Perpetually embarrassed by these witch hunt type threads
It's healthy to discuss who we think should or shouldn't be playing but some of the descriptions of whoever is chosen as the current boo boy bears little resemblance to what is shown on the pitch
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 27, 2022 4:07:45 GMT
Perpetually embarrassed by these witch hunt type threads It's healthy to discuss who we think should or shouldn't be playing but some of the descriptions of whoever is chosen as the current boo boy bears little resemblance to what is shown on the pitch Agreed. He’s had some poor games but last couple he’s been our best midfielder by a mile. Moves the ball around really nicely.
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 27, 2022 8:26:45 GMT
Thought he looked ok yesterday, especially in the first half with getting the ball back and I think he set Campbell up with the through ball for the one on one chance he had? Like all footballers, consistency is the key.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 27, 2022 8:37:40 GMT
Thought he looked ok yesterday, especially in the first half with getting the ball back and I think he set Campbell up with the through ball for the one on one chance he had? Like all footballers, consistency is the key. The big issue with him is he tires quite quickly which shouldn’t be an issue if the manager replaces him at the right time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2022 8:39:16 GMT
Perpetually embarrassed by these witch hunt type threads It's healthy to discuss who we think should or shouldn't be playing but some of the descriptions of whoever is chosen as the current boo boy bears little resemblance to what is shown on the pitch This, the Delap and Tyrese ones are particularly embarrassing. I despair at times. I know we've been rubbish for years but these young players don't deserve this level of abuse. Let's not kid ourselves that it's just discussion on a message board.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2022 9:19:01 GMT
Perpetually embarrassed by these witch hunt type threads It's healthy to discuss who we think should or shouldn't be playing but some of the descriptions of whoever is chosen as the current boo boy bears little resemblance to what is shown on the pitch This, the Delap and Tyrese ones are particularly embarrassing. I despair at times. I know we've been rubbish for years but these young players don't deserve this level of abuse. Let's not kid ourselves that it's just discussion on a message board. I've read both threads in their entirety and I'm still yet to see any "abuse" directed towards these players from anyone on here. The stuff that was allegedly (and I've no reason not to believe DaveJohnno) shouted at Campbell yesterday is fucking disgusting but I don't see any of that on here, just people discussing a players attributes or lack of attributes. The odd cry of "he's shit" is pretty much as bad as it gets on here as far as I can see, which, in my opinion, isn't really abuse.
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Post by ohbottom on Dec 27, 2022 9:32:47 GMT
Thought he was the best of the midfield 3 yesterday, continually getting a foot in to win the ball back and then looking to go forward, unlike Baker who only ever seems to turn backwards. We largely controlled the midfield for most of the game while he was on the pitch, lost control after he went off.
But once the boo-boys have picked a target it becomes irrelevant what they actually do on the pitch.
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Post by greyface on Dec 27, 2022 9:39:00 GMT
Smallbone isn’t the issue. Baker’s current form and untouchable status is. I’m not Smallbone’s biggest fan but he shouldn’t be first in line to be dropped. Our midfield is flaky at best atm, but Baker for Kilkenny is our only viable option for a change. Powell’s form doesn’t warrant a start, and he looks like he doesn’t want to be here to me. Came over to give his shirt to a disabled fan at the end but barely acknowledged the fans. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him gone in Jan.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 27, 2022 10:06:44 GMT
Powell’s form doesn’t warrant a start, and he looks like he doesn’t want to be here to me. Came over to give his shirt to a disabled fan at the end but barely acknowledged the fans. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him gone in Jan. I think it's more this manager doesn't want him here than the player himself. He isn't his type of footballer at all, lets be honest.
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Post by milky on Dec 27, 2022 10:12:25 GMT
Smallbone was far from the biggest issue yesterday and with more composed finishing could have had 2 assists.
He was better than Baker ,Thompson and Tymon to name but three and we looked a lot worse after he'd gone off.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Dec 27, 2022 10:13:43 GMT
Thought he was the best of the midfield 3 yesterday, continually getting a foot in to win the ball back and then looking to go forward, unlike Baker who only ever seems to turn backwards. We largely controlled the midfield for most of the game while he was on the pitch, lost control after he went off. But once the boo-boys have picked a target it becomes irrelevant what they actually do on the pitch. He was about on a par with Thompson both were better than Baker but non of them were better than 6/10. Dunno what’s happened to Baker he looks like he’ll never score again. The other 2 don’t score so who’s going to when the strikers do their best to avoid scoring like yesterday I mean Tyreece scored but he did his best not to where is the goal threat? Doesn’t look like AN is a big Powell fan and he’s doing nothing to convince him otherwise.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Dec 27, 2022 10:18:00 GMT
Powell’s form doesn’t warrant a start, and he looks like he doesn’t want to be here to me. Came over to give his shirt to a disabled fan at the end but barely acknowledged the fans. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him gone in Jan. I think it's more this manager doesn't want him here than the player himself. He isn't his type of footballer at all, lets be honest. It appears this could well be the case though I’m not sure what’s not to like. What is his problem? Too much fancy, low percentage stuff?
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 27, 2022 10:20:51 GMT
Thought Smallbone was okay yesterday, first half he was one of our better players!!! Our best two, in a team where no one in particularly stands out, we're Souttar and Thompson!!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 27, 2022 10:25:55 GMT
Thought Smallbone was okay yesterday, first half he was one of our better players!!! Our best two, in a team where no one in particularly stands out, we're Souttar and Thompson!!! Souttar looked really uncomfortable yesterday imo.
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