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Post by OldStokie on Feb 16, 2023 19:23:11 GMT
Far be it from me to defend Centrica but Britisg Gas, which is part of Centrica, are a small part of the group and it's British Gas that should have been lowering their prices. But apparently, Centrica would have broken competition rules had they lowered the price of their product to their offshoot, British Gas. It looks as though we're being shafted whichever way we turn. OS.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 16, 2023 19:28:05 GMT
I’ll ask again, is there any reason why people can’t, en masse, refuse to pay their bill for energy? What would the likely repercussions be?
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Post by stokie63 on Feb 17, 2023 7:09:47 GMT
I’ll ask again, is there any reason why people can’t, en masse, refuse to pay their bill for energy? What would the likely repercussions be? That's what the don't pay scheme was a few months ago, but it didn't materialise suppose its because 99% of us are law abiding people unlike the shit house government.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 18, 2023 8:20:30 GMT
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 18, 2023 8:26:28 GMT
The companies that sell us energy exist to make profit for their shareholders.
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Post by superjw on Feb 18, 2023 8:48:58 GMT
It’s not that baffling when you realise it’s this government and OFGEM who are enabling the price rises. They should be doing their job and reacting to the price drops and at the very least scrapping the increase. Unfortunately there are too many vested interests
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 26, 2023 16:27:42 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 4, 2023 6:41:58 GMT
Morning everyone. Have a great day, and remember "We're all in this together".......
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 4, 2023 7:11:03 GMT
Daily Telegraph yesterday moaning about Starmer saying the energy companies should contribute more by way of windfall tax.
Why? Because bp's profits were only £5bn, slightly down from their previous record high!
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 4, 2023 9:23:30 GMT
Daily Telegraph yesterday moaning about Starmer saying the energy companies should contribute more by way of windfall tax. Why? Because bp's profits were only £5bn, slightly down from their previous record high! I know you were tongue in cheek mate but seriously what is needed is a cap on prices. It doesn’t matter that there is a shortage of gas, which I don’t believe there is now, somebody will inevitably make obscene profits from the so called energy crisis….a crisis being exacerbated by the energy companies. I’ve written to my MP, Gary Streeter, many times and the answer is always the same, putting a price cap will drive many small energy providers to the wall and thus drive down competition. Does that really matter when energy costs still continue to spiral?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 4, 2023 12:54:44 GMT
Daily Telegraph yesterday moaning about Starmer saying the energy companies should contribute more by way of windfall tax. Why? Because bp's profits were only £5bn, slightly down from their previous record high! I know you were tongue in cheek mate but seriously what is needed is a cap on prices. It doesn’t matter that there is a shortage of gas, which I don’t believe there is now, somebody will inevitably make obscene profits from the so called energy crisis….a crisis being exacerbated by the energy companies. I’ve written to my MP, Gary Streeter, many times and the answer is always the same, putting a price cap will drive many small energy providers to the wall and thus drive down competition. Does that really matter when energy costs still continue to spiral? It's always the same argument - that the market should be allowed to manage itself and will find its own level. This is essentially at the heart of Conservative economic dogma. That works well enough when competition is free and fair and people have the ability to move their custom quickly and easily from supplier to supplier: if you don't want to pay Waitrose prices, go to Aldi or Lidl etc. Where that fails is in markets where that ability is not so readily available or where the price of the commodity is so high anyway that it's punitive whoever you turn to, as you pointed out. I think most people accept that certain industries are simply not suited to a competitive market approach, not least because they are so critical to people's overall well-being that to leave them to market forces is to effectively turn your back on concerns for the welfare of the people: gas, electricity, water, rail spring to mind, there are probably others. It doesn't mean you have to embrace socialism in its entirety to have a mixed economy, including some state owned or controlled industries, so that, overall, it works better for the majority of people. The contrast of abandoning people to the vagaries of the market was seen readily enough in the effects of the financial crisis (caused by a failure of the financial markets and lack of regulation), the decade or so of austerity that it directly led to (including Brexit) and what we are currently seeing in the energy sector.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 27, 2023 8:43:11 GMT
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Post by superjw on Jul 27, 2023 10:28:55 GMT
And somehow they will defend scalping the people with insanely inflated pricing and failing to bring prices down quickly enough when wholesale started falling. Gas and electric prices could come down to pre Covid levels now, but they just got the greed bug The fact that big corporations can profiteer from a crisis is insane.
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Post by Northy on Jul 27, 2023 12:25:22 GMT
With Shell announcing a £5bn quarterly profit, it's figures show it is investing 5.6 times more in fossil fuels than its renewables business.
Keep paying for that fuel and slagging off 'Just stop Oil dorks' ...
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 27, 2023 12:38:01 GMT
It's a cartel not a market.
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Post by superjw on Jul 27, 2023 13:25:02 GMT
With Shell announcing a £5bn quarterly profit, it's figures show it is investing 5.6 times more in fossil fuels than its renewables business. Keep paying for that fuel and slagging off 'Just stop Oil dorks' ... If the government gave me a free transition to heat pump heating then I will stop paying for gas, I will be totally gas free. If not then I will continue paying for it ultimately…
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Post by iancransonsknees on Aug 1, 2023 5:49:12 GMT
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Post by sticky on Aug 1, 2023 7:00:49 GMT
Jesus that terrible, not a good look for them at all is it. Seems to be an endless supply of big companies treating people like shit
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 16, 2024 8:53:09 GMT
Remember folks, we're all in this together..... ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGcGcXUWEAEFUzg?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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Post by superjw on Feb 16, 2024 9:42:53 GMT
Remember folks, we're all in this together..... ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGcGcXUWEAEFUzg?format=jpg&name=900x900) And yet energy companies “had no choice” but to skyrocket our prices. They are absolute criminals
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Post by Northy on Feb 16, 2024 9:52:47 GMT
Remember folks, we're all in this together..... ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGcGcXUWEAEFUzg?format=jpg&name=900x900) And yet energy companies “had no choice” but to skyrocket our prices. They are absolute criminals They are tied to 'The Global Market' and have to buy in advance, but other governments managed to sort it out to get it cheaper.
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Post by musik on Feb 16, 2024 18:34:59 GMT
I’ll ask again, is there any reason why people can’t, en masse, refuse to pay their bill for energy? What would the likely repercussions be? In Sweden it works like this: You won't get any energy next period until you pay.
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Post by musik on Feb 16, 2024 18:36:07 GMT
I've just received the biggest energy sum bill ever, £70 (950 SEK).
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Post by superjw on Feb 16, 2024 18:51:31 GMT
I've just received the biggest energy sum bill ever, £70 (950 SEK). Is that over a month!? My electricity on its own is £150 a month
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Post by musik on Feb 16, 2024 20:20:39 GMT
I've just received the biggest energy sum bill ever, £70 (950 SEK). Is that over a month!? My electricity on its own is £150 a month It's for three months. The highest I've ever had. People are gathered now and then in protest parades against these energy prices here. I live in a rented appartment. Do you live in a house of your own? It's strange but interesting how politicians in different countries think people should have to pay for services and goods. Thy can rule and affect the prices if they want. In England living in a senior home if you get old costs 8-10 times more compared to Sweden. Going to the barber is 5-10 times more expensive in Sweden. Going to the dentist seems to be the same.
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Post by swampmongrel on Feb 16, 2024 20:46:31 GMT
I've just received the biggest energy sum bill ever, £70 (950 SEK). Is that over a month!? My electricity on its own is £150 a month Are you mining bitcoin and/or growing marijuana?
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