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Post by ibby on Dec 4, 2022 23:20:37 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 4, 2022 23:24:43 GMT
Oldham boss? I thought that was Unsworth🤔
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Post by ibby on Dec 5, 2022 0:03:24 GMT
Oldham boss? I thought that was Unsworth🤔 Former Oldham boss it states, if you read it right. Unsworth at Oldham now and is having a nightmare of a results. The fans want him gone.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 5, 2022 0:06:58 GMT
There’s a bit of a weird obsession with Holden.
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Post by wilcopotter on Dec 5, 2022 0:12:02 GMT
Thomas don’t do it, no help to MON, both looked like rabbits in headlights.
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Post by potterpaul on Dec 5, 2022 0:13:46 GMT
There’s a bit of a weird obsession with Holden. We need him back here sharpish 😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 5, 2022 0:20:07 GMT
There’s a bit of a weird obsession with Holden. We need him back here sharpish 😂 What for? He was part the mess.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 5, 2022 7:39:49 GMT
We need him back here sharpish 😂 What for? He was part the mess. Don't quote me on this mate but i think he may have been joking.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 5, 2022 7:58:25 GMT
Looks like his public brown nosing about his visit there has paid off to some degree. Looking back, without a doubt one of Michael O'Neill's worst ever decisions here was to bring him in as assistant.
It's when his fascination with the back three was cemented and our form mirrored the back end of his time at Bristol City.
Of course the buck always stops with the manager but I think we are in a period of time where the assistant is becoming more and more important. The years of an autocrat are long gone and the hidden faces in the background are arguably more important than the manager these days.
IMO of course.
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Post by RF10 on Dec 5, 2022 8:11:42 GMT
Looks like his public brown nosing about his visit there has paid off to some degree. Looking back, without a doubt one of Michael O'Neill's worst ever decisions here was to bring him in as assistant. It's when his fascination with the back three was cemented and our form mirrored the back end of his time at Bristol City. Of course the buck always stops with the manager but I think we are in a period of time where the assistant is becoming more and more important. The years of an autocrat are long gone and the hidden faces in the background are arguably more important than the manager these days. IMO of course. I think they've always had importance, look at Clough / Taylor the partnership. Fergie also built his success on having someone he could trust alongside him who made important decisions. Carlos Queiroz as a tactician was highly thought of around the Man Utd players. Don't forget the mighty Dave Kemp either.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 5, 2022 11:02:31 GMT
Looks like his public brown nosing about his visit there has paid off to some degree. Looking back, without a doubt one of Michael O'Neill's worst ever decisions here was to bring him in as assistant. It's when his fascination with the back three was cemented and our form mirrored the back end of his time at Bristol City. Of course the buck always stops with the manager but I think we are in a period of time where the assistant is becoming more and more important. The years of an autocrat are long gone and the hidden faces in the background are arguably more important than the manager these days. IMO of course. Not really sure what goes on behind the scenes and how much of an influence assistants have, but our general play was much better with McKinlay in as number 2.
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Post by lordb on Dec 5, 2022 11:04:02 GMT
Looks like his public brown nosing about his visit there has paid off to some degree. Looking back, without a doubt one of Michael O'Neill's worst ever decisions here was to bring him in as assistant. It's when his fascination with the back three was cemented and our form mirrored the back end of his time at Bristol City. Of course the buck always stops with the manager but I think we are in a period of time where the assistant is becoming more and more important. The years of an autocrat are long gone and the hidden faces in the background are arguably more important than the manager these days. IMO of course. Not really sure what goes on behind the scenes and how much of an influence assistants have, but our general play was much better with McKinlay in as number 2. McKinlay was hugely unpopular with the players < doesn't make him a bad coach mind >
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Post by march4 on Dec 5, 2022 11:04:33 GMT
Looks like his public brown nosing about his visit there has paid off to some degree. Looking back, without a doubt one of Michael O'Neill's worst ever decisions here was to bring him in as assistant. It's when his fascination with the back three was cemented and our form mirrored the back end of his time at Bristol City. Of course the buck always stops with the manager but I think we are in a period of time where the assistant is becoming more and more important. The years of an autocrat are long gone and the hidden faces in the background are arguably more important than the manager these days. IMO of course. I think they've always had importance, look at Clough / Taylor the partnership. Fergie also built his success on having someone he could trust alongside him who made important decisions. Carlos Queiroz as a tactician was highly thought of around the Man Utd players. Don't forget the mighty Dave Kemp either. TP without Kempy wasn’t the same TP.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 5, 2022 11:06:46 GMT
Not really sure what goes on behind the scenes and how much of an influence assistants have, but our general play was much better with McKinlay in as number 2. McKinlay was hugely unpopular with the players < doesn't make him a bad coach mind > I thought I'd read something along those lines before.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Dec 5, 2022 11:15:22 GMT
Not really sure what goes on behind the scenes and how much of an influence assistants have, but our general play was much better with McKinlay in as number 2. McKinlay was hugely unpopular with the players < doesn't make him a bad coach mind > Yeah Id heard that. I’d also add that our poor form started well before DH came in
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Post by ibby on Dec 6, 2022 0:32:48 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 6, 2022 11:06:57 GMT
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Post by onionman on Dec 6, 2022 11:51:19 GMT
That’s basically what ends up happening if you sack Alan Curbishley.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 6, 2022 14:33:49 GMT
There’s a bit of a weird obsession with Holden. It's because he has 100% win record as Stoke manager. That makes him a legend I think.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 6, 2022 15:16:09 GMT
There’s a bit of a weird obsession with Holden. It's because he has 100% win record as Stoke manager. That makes him a legend I think. Asa Hartford should have his own statue for the football he had us playing as caretaker manager……
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Post by stokesaint1 on Dec 6, 2022 20:52:01 GMT
The sooner O'Neill AND Holden get fixed up with jobs the better it is for Stoke as I understand it. I believe the contractual compensation payments cease or significantly reduce (dependant on new salary compared to their earnings while at Stoke), when the "sacked" staff find new employment. Can anyone confirm this is the case or not? I don't know if managers payments (past or present) even count towards FFP but, if they do, these guys getting new jobs could be helpful come January incomings.
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Post by gogogadget on Dec 6, 2022 21:53:34 GMT
I think they've always had importance, look at Clough / Taylor the partnership. Fergie also built his success on having someone he could trust alongside him who made important decisions. Carlos Queiroz as a tactician was highly thought of around the Man Utd players. Don't forget the mighty Dave Kemp either. TP without Kempy wasn’t the same TP. True The football was better when Reid helped him out for a while
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 20, 2022 9:15:16 GMT
Looks like he’s the new Charlton boss🤔
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Post by callas12 on Dec 20, 2022 9:22:38 GMT
Looks like he’s the new Charlton boss🤔 A mate of mine who is a Charlton fan had heard he was about to be announced. Think he'll be quite a good appointment for them. Wouldn't be suprised if Holden tapped into a few of our fringe players to send out for a loan spell with him down there in the capital. DWP or Bursik wouldn't be bad options.
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Post by lordb on Dec 20, 2022 9:23:52 GMT
Looks like he’s the new Charlton boss🤔 A mate of mine who is a Charlton fan had heard he was about to be announced. Think he'll be quite a good appointment for them. Wouldn't be suprised if Holden tapped into a few of our fringe players to send out for a loan spell with him down there in the capital. DWP or Bursik wouldn't be bad options. Flint maybe?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 20, 2022 9:51:52 GMT
TP without Kempy wasn’t the same TP. True The football was better when Reid helped him out for a while Not convinced it was, 09/10 was quite a boring season where we scored fewer goals than the season before and fewer than everyone bar Wolves. Great that we stayed up without much fuss but less fun than the season before or the season after.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 20, 2022 10:10:54 GMT
A mate of mine who is a Charlton fan had heard he was about to be announced. Think he'll be quite a good appointment for them. Wouldn't be suprised if Holden tapped into a few of our fringe players to send out for a loan spell with him down there in the capital. DWP or Bursik wouldn't be bad options. Flint maybe? Would be a good move for all concerned. AN's thankfully given up on him already.
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 20, 2022 10:26:59 GMT
Would be a good move for all concerned. AN's thankfully given up on him already. Depends how much of his wages we’d carry. That’s pretty much what it boils down to when offloading players nobody else wants. Flint would be mint in League One though.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 20, 2022 10:28:07 GMT
Would be a good move for all concerned. AN's thankfully given up on him already. Looks like he may have given up on Taylor also!!!
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Post by lordb on Dec 20, 2022 10:34:38 GMT
Would be a good move for all concerned. AN's thankfully given up on him already. Depends how much of his wages we’d carry. That’s pretty much what it boils down to when offloading players nobody else wants. Flint would be mint in League One though. He won't be on much at all More than Charlton would pay but wouldn't take much of a hit to move him on
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