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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 12, 2022 14:57:11 GMT
Personally, I hope that Reigns beats The Rock in a one-off match (if The Rock does come back) and Solo takes it. When Reigns loses the title, he will need to take a long time off, so if he is going to do that, it needs to be to promote someone new and build for the future. The Rock will run a sporadic, fun programme, but then what? He’s not coming back, he was only there for 6 years and he is now working into a big role of the extended DC universe. He’d be a part-time, awful Champion. If anything, they should get an angle where the Rock costs Reigns the titles and then they fight it out for control of the Family. They don’t need a title involved. Reigns’ control of both titles is so detrimental to all of the upper mid-card, who now have little to challenge for. The sooner they are broken apart again, the better. Think the plan is for Reigns to beat Rock and then drop the title(s) to Cody. Cody makes sense. Though my main desire for those titles to get broken up as soon as possible. I suppose waiting for Wrestlemania makes sense. I don’t want to see The Rock win. It would be a very Vince thing to do. I hope it’s Reigns. Again, I’d hope they’d pull the trigger earlier.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 12, 2022 15:07:25 GMT
Think the plan is for Reigns to beat Rock and then drop the title(s) to Cody. Cody makes sense. Though my main desire for those titles to get broken up as soon as possible. I suppose waiting for Wrestlemania makes sense. I don’t want to see The Rock win. It would be a very Vince thing to do. I hope it’s Reigns. Again, I’d hope they’d pull the trigger earlier. Agree would've been the kind of thing Vince would've done. Rock will want to put Reigns over though and has talked about that before so would imagine that's the way it'll go.
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Post by flea79 on Dec 12, 2022 15:19:08 GMT
Personally, I hope that Reigns beats The Rock in a one-off match (if The Rock does come back) and Solo takes it. When Reigns loses the title, he will need to take a long time off, so if he is going to do that, it needs to be to promote someone new and build for the future. The Rock will run a sporadic, fun programme, but then what? He’s not coming back, he was only there for 6 years and he is now working into a big role of the extended DC universe. He’d be a part-time, awful Champion. If anything, they should get an angle where the Rock costs Reigns the titles and then they fight it out for control of the Family. They don’t need a title involved. Reigns’ control of both titles is so detrimental to all of the upper mid-card, who now have little to challenge for. The sooner they are broken apart again, the better. Think the plan is for Reigns to beat Rock and then drop the title(s) to Cody. really not sure although Meltzer now reports that they are looking to split the titles again between Raw and Smackdown
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Post by flea79 on Dec 12, 2022 15:20:21 GMT
talking of the rumble its highly anticipated that The Rock will return for a programme with Roman Reigns that ends at Wrestlemania and the end of this whole bloodline thing, cant wait to see him back, just huge pops for the guy still Personally, I hope that Reigns beats The Rock in a one-off match (if The Rock does come back) and Solo takes it. When Reigns loses the title, he will need to take a long time off, so if he is going to do that, it needs to be to promote someone new and build for the future. The Rock will run a sporadic, fun programme, but then what? He’s not coming back, he was only there for 6 years and he is now working into a big role of the extended DC universe. He’d be a part-time, awful Champion. If anything, they should get an angle where the Rock costs Reigns the titles and then they fight it out for control of the Family. They don’t need a title involved. Reigns’ control of both titles is so detrimental to all of the upper mid-card, who now have little to challenge for. The sooner they are broken apart again, the better. no the rock will work a short but good programme with Reigns in the way he did with Cena a few years back its funny you say how he only did 6 years, i often forget that, he still has a show named after him!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 12, 2022 15:20:41 GMT
Think the plan is for Reigns to beat Rock and then drop the title(s) to Cody. really not sure although Meltzer now reports that they are looking to split the titles again between Raw and Smackdown Don't see that happening before Mania tbh. Nobody's beating Roman before then at the earliest.
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Post by flea79 on Dec 12, 2022 16:10:26 GMT
really not sure although Meltzer now reports that they are looking to split the titles again between Raw and Smackdown Don't see that happening before Mania tbh. Nobody's beating Roman before then at the earliest. programme will build from rumble onwards mania is a two night show and he will lose a title to Cody on night one followed by a huge match against the Rock on night two, but will keep one of the belts with him a lot of people were so out of love with Reigns when he first started getting a push but Big Show gave a fan an answer in a q and a with Gorilla position podcast/show and said he is the hardest worker in the building and he is getting what he works for
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 12, 2022 16:34:09 GMT
Don't see that happening before Mania tbh. Nobody's beating Roman before then at the earliest. programme will build from rumble onwards mania is a two night show and he will lose a title to Cody on night one followed by a huge match against the Rock on night two, but will keep one of the belts with him a lot of people were so out of love with Reigns when he first started getting a push but Big Show gave a fan an answer in a q and a with Gorilla position podcast/show and said he is the hardest worker in the building and he is getting what he works for Good shout, could see that. Reigns has been magnificent since they turned him heel, they should've done it years ago.
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 12, 2022 19:03:58 GMT
really not sure although Meltzer now reports that they are looking to split the titles again between Raw and Smackdown Don't see that happening before Mania tbh. Nobody's beating Roman before then at the earliest. I’d be shocked if they did as well. They should have done it with McIntyre in Cardiff. Or, they should have put a Money in the Bank contract stipulation where the winner could only challenge for one title. Now they are going to have to find a convoluted way to do it. Maybe the Rumble will do the same, where the winner can only challenge for one of the titles. Personally, I’m shocked the US network allowed it. He doesn’t pull double duty. The US and Women’s title are the only ones regularly on Raw.
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Post by flea79 on Dec 13, 2022 10:31:09 GMT
Don't see that happening before Mania tbh. Nobody's beating Roman before then at the earliest. I’d be shocked if they did as well. They should have done it with McIntyre in Cardiff. Or, they should have put a Money in the Bank contract stipulation where the winner could only challenge for one title. Now they are going to have to find a convoluted way to do it. Maybe the Rumble will do the same, where the winner can only challenge for one of the titles. Personally, I’m shocked the US network allowed it. He doesn’t pull double duty. The US and Women’s title are the only ones regularly on Raw. it is strange re the titles and it struck me more during Lesnar's long run as part time champion but as a young lad i remember watching smackdown and raw and the show usually opened with the champion or the challenger on the mic and set the main event for the evening and that was exciting, but when you have absent champs and b card stories carrying the show it just isnt the same having said that for Reigns to have fought his illness in the way he has and still be the athlete that he is is incredible
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 13, 2022 20:44:11 GMT
I’d be shocked if they did as well. They should have done it with McIntyre in Cardiff. Or, they should have put a Money in the Bank contract stipulation where the winner could only challenge for one title. Now they are going to have to find a convoluted way to do it. Maybe the Rumble will do the same, where the winner can only challenge for one of the titles. Personally, I’m shocked the US network allowed it. He doesn’t pull double duty. The US and Women’s title are the only ones regularly on Raw. it is strange re the titles and it struck me more during Lesnar's long run as part time champion but as a young lad i remember watching smackdown and raw and the show usually opened with the champion or the challenger on the mic and set the main event for the evening and that was exciting, but when you have absent champs and b card stories carrying the show it just isnt the same having said that for Reigns to have fought his illness in the way he has and still be the athlete that he is is incredible I have absolutely no issue with Reigns being a Champion. He’s improved so much, and to beat cancer twice is amazing! I just wish he wasn’t THE Champion. He could have done the proposed Bloodline story with the Smackdown title and not needed to take anything from Raw. Same as the Usos. Because of that, I mostly just read summaries on Bleacher Report and watch the ppvs now.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 13, 2022 20:52:58 GMT
Marty screwed Marty
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Dec 13, 2022 21:18:08 GMT
One of my all time favorite bits was Al Snow mimicking drying his hand before bowling. Still cracks me up. There was a time where wrestling was the best comedy on TV.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 13, 2022 21:33:57 GMT
Marty screwed Marty The Brain was the greatest! - "Jannetty tried to dive through the window to escape!"
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Post by salopstick on Dec 13, 2022 21:55:38 GMT
Marty screwed Marty The Brain was the greatest! - "Jannetty tried to dive through the window to escape!" I knew you were going to say that
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Post by salopstick on Dec 13, 2022 21:56:44 GMT
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 13, 2022 22:08:21 GMT
The Brain was the greatest! - "Jannetty tried to dive through the window to escape!" I knew you were going to say that Haha, well of course, it's one of those all time great moments/quotes! To go down a similar path, what are peoples all time favourite angles or story arcs? I'll give three which could go in any order.... The Hogan/Savage 'Mega Powers' arc was brilliant, especially when it all came to a head. Not often you get some year long story telling but when it does happen it's usually amazing. Which leads to another long drawn out story arc with Bret's heel turn. Most people just remember the amazing Wrestlemania match against Stone Cold and/or 'The Screwjob', but the whole years worth of action was quite possibly the best wrestling story arc of all time. Rocky Maivia's gimmick change when joining the Nation & slowly becoming it's leader as The Rock.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Dec 13, 2022 22:35:53 GMT
I knew you were going to say that Haha, well of course, it's one of those all time great moments/quotes! To go down a similar path, what are peoples all time favourite angles or story arcs? I'll give three which could go in any order.... The Hogan/Savage 'Mega Powers' arc was brilliant, especially when it all came to a head. Not often you get some year long story telling but when it does happen it's usually amazing. Which leads to another long drawn out story arc with Bret's heel turn. Most people just remember the amazing Wrestlemania match against Stone Cold and/or 'The Screwjob', but the whole years worth of action was quite possibly the best wrestling story arc of all time. Rocky Maivia's gimmick change when joining the Nation & slowly becoming it's leader as The Rock. My time was the Rock/Triple H rivalry. Different characters dipped into the storyline; Austin, Undertaker, Foley, Big Show along with the McMahon/DX lot. The Backlash main event is still my favourite to this day but I only wish it was at Wrestlemania. Had it have been though, I suspect it would have made things difficult for other Manias following that. “Paterson, Brisco *a memorable squeal from a female in the audience*…down goes Shane, down goes Vince, Austin, Austin, Austin!” Nobody could hold a candle to JR.
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Post by flea79 on Dec 13, 2022 22:37:21 GMT
I knew you were going to say that Haha, well of course, it's one of those all time great moments/quotes! To go down a similar path, what are peoples all time favourite angles or story arcs? I'll give three which could go in any order.... The Hogan/Savage 'Mega Powers' arc was brilliant, especially when it all came to a head. Not often you get some year long story telling but when it does happen it's usually amazing. Which leads to another long drawn out story arc with Bret's heel turn. Most people just remember the amazing Wrestlemania match against Stone Cold and/or 'The Screwjob', but the whole years worth of action was quite possibly the best wrestling story arc of all time. Rocky Maivia's gimmick change when joining the Nation & slowly becoming it's leader as The Rock. The Austin run over by rikishi on behalf of HHH story was great and led to an amazing 6 man hell in a cell match Rock and Austin just any time Rock and cena with a slow build over 12 months was awesome too
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jan 5, 2023 12:03:45 GMT
Anyone going?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 5, 2023 12:43:55 GMT
Very tempted. Definitely going to the first AEW UK show when that's confirmed but if there's any way I can get to this too I'd like to.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 5, 2023 17:38:26 GMT
My era was 1999 through to about 2003, when it started to drop off a fair bit. I remember watching pretty much right when Chris Jericho made his debut.
1997-2001 were the peak years IMO, although I do think 1990-1993 looked great too.
Actually unbelievable looking back at the storylines, the characters were so good - Stone Cold, The Rock, Undertaker, Mankind and Triple H, as well as the McMahons.
JR and Jerry Lawler as well, elite commentary.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 5, 2023 17:47:44 GMT
Wrestlemania X-Seven in 2001 was incredible.
Check this match list out, definitely worth a rewatch if you are feeling nostalgic.
Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit Chris Jericho vs. William Regal Kane vs. Big Show vs. Raven (Hardcore) Eddie Guerrero vs. Test Chyna vs. Ivory Vince McMahon vs. Shane McMahon (Street fight, Mick Foley special guest referee) Hardys vs. Dudleys vs. Edge & Christian (Tables, Ladders and Chairs) Undertaker vs. Triple H Rock vs. Stone Cold
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 5, 2023 17:55:32 GMT
Agree with this, Naitch was ace. Don't get me wrong he should have retired many, many, many years ago, but his work in the 80/90's, especially in the Horsemen was brilliant... And his 92 Rumble win is one of the greatest matches of all time. (Helped by Bobby's fantastic heel commentary!) 92 Rumble just untouchable, was what got me into it. Watched a few of these the other year, funny blokes - wrestling fans but they basically commentate on the PPV and take the piss.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 5, 2023 18:19:00 GMT
Arn Anderson was one tough mutha.
Classic match here with sting, flying brian pillman, flair and anderson
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jan 5, 2023 18:35:55 GMT
I remember hearing about this on Bill Burr's podcast years ago. Still cracks me up. It's lower tier wrestling, but who cares it's great.
The Most Illegal Move in the History of Wrestling
Then there's The One Man Thrill Ride with his shoots, also nod to Bill Burr. Would have liked to have seen this guy make it big, but nope. His mic skills are pretty good.
Alumni Baseball Game Speech
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jan 5, 2023 18:41:11 GMT
I loved the enforcer! His best ever spinebuster for me... Pops up out of nowhere, delivers the perfect spinebuster & casually rolls back out the ring. Classic!
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Post by John Smiths Upper Fan on Jan 5, 2023 18:55:39 GMT
Very tempted. Definitely going to the first AEW UK show when that's confirmed but if there's any way I can get to this too I'd like to. Same definitely going the AEW show regardless. Always supported the underdog company whether it be WCW (I guess they were on top for a spell) TNA (they had a great few years) or now AEW. WWE never rubbed on me but my lads caught wind they're coming so if I can get some reasonably priced tickets we'll go. Best to get in there early to avoid the extortionate pricing closer to the event. Will see when they go on sale.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 5, 2023 19:50:36 GMT
I remember hearing about this on Bill Burr's podcast years ago. Still cracks me up. It's lower tier wrestling, but who cares it's great. The Most Illegal Move in the History of Wrestling Then there's The One Man Thrill Ride with his shoots, also nod to Bill Burr. Would have liked to have seen this guy make it big, but nope. His mic skills are pretty good. Alumni Baseball Game Speech That wrestling clip was epic.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 5, 2023 19:59:35 GMT
The legendary Ox Baker causing a riot in 74
And an interview with one of the greatest wrestling heels of all time.
Ming the merciless eat your heart out.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jan 5, 2023 21:22:06 GMT
^ I love to hurt people. Classic.
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