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Post by idle on Jan 11, 2023 12:30:10 GMT
Hugill scored 4 in 36 for Norwich, 1 in 20 on loan at WBA and 4 in 18 on loan at Cardiff. Hardly a striker that "carries a goal threat".
As a link up player, he might be something we need, but I remember being pretty annoyed with how few Fletcher scored (12 in 72).
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 11, 2023 12:33:05 GMT
Hugill scored 4 in 36 for Norwich, 1 in 20 on loan at WBA and 4 in 18 on loan at Cardiff. Hardly a striker that "carries a goal threat". As a link up player, he might be something we need, but I remember being pretty annoyed with how few Fletcher scored (12 in 72). If he can create chances for others it hopefully won't matter how many he scores, very different I know but Sidibe didn't score all that many, it's what else he may bring to the side, maybe it'll add some sort of ballance to the forward options.
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Post by idle on Jan 11, 2023 13:04:22 GMT
Hugill scored 4 in 36 for Norwich, 1 in 20 on loan at WBA and 4 in 18 on loan at Cardiff. Hardly a striker that "carries a goal threat". As a link up player, he might be something we need, but I remember being pretty annoyed with how few Fletcher scored (12 in 72). If he can create chances for others it hopefully won't matter how many he scores, very different I know but Sidibe didn't score all that many, it's what else he may bring to the side, maybe it'll add some sort of ballance to the forward options. Yeah, sure. And also in his favor is this quote from Daniel Farke: "Hugill was a key player for me... I don't just rate a player because of his minutes and his impact on the pitch. You don’t win a title or promotion just as 11 players. A leader in our dressing room and one of the main topics why we were promoted".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2023 13:29:36 GMT
Been saying for a long time Hugill is exactly what we need
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Post by etebojan on Jan 11, 2023 13:37:31 GMT
If he can create chances for others it hopefully won't matter how many he scores, very different I know but Sidibe didn't score all that many, it's what else he may bring to the side, maybe it'll add some sort of ballance to the forward options. Yeah, sure. And also in his favor is this quote from Daniel Farke: "Hugill was a key player for me... I don't just rate a player because of his minutes and his impact on the pitch. You don’t win a title or promotion just as 11 players. A leader in our dressing room and one of the main topics why we were promoted". Leader up top + Target man who can hold ball link up play and get the best out of Ty, Gayle + Brown = Hugill Leader/captain at the back = Bentley Leader in the middle/defence mid = ? Pearson ? feels like almost a plan coming together
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Post by etebojan on Jan 11, 2023 13:43:08 GMT
Hugill scored 4 in 36 for Norwich, 1 in 20 on loan at WBA and 4 in 18 on loan at Cardiff. Hardly a striker that "carries a goal threat". As a link up player, he might be something we need, but I remember being pretty annoyed with how few Fletcher scored (12 in 72). But that period just before Ty got his injury, our forward line was flying, the partnership between Fletcher and Campbell was brilliant, it didn't matter that Fletch wasn't scoring, because of everything else he was doing
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Post by Veritas on Jan 11, 2023 13:48:40 GMT
Hugill scored 4 in 36 for Norwich, 1 in 20 on loan at WBA and 4 in 18 on loan at Cardiff. Hardly a striker that "carries a goal threat". As a link up player, he might be something we need, but I remember being pretty annoyed with how few Fletcher scored (12 in 72). But that period just before Ty got his injury, our forward line was flying, the partnership between Fletcher and Campbell was brilliant, it didn't matter that Fletch wasn't scoring, because of everything else he was doing I have no idea if Hugill is the answer but we certainly need someone up front who can control and hold up the ball.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 11, 2023 14:00:03 GMT
Hugill scored 4 in 36 for Norwich, 1 in 20 on loan at WBA and 4 in 18 on loan at Cardiff. Hardly a striker that "carries a goal threat". As a link up player, he might be something we need, but I remember being pretty annoyed with how few Fletcher scored (12 in 72). If he can create chances for others it hopefully won't matter how many he scores, very different I know but Sidibe didn't score all that many, it's what else he may bring to the side, maybe it'll add some sort of ballance to the forward options. Yeah he was shit too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2023 14:03:04 GMT
Jordan Hugill?
Interesting.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 11, 2023 14:15:01 GMT
Jordan Hugill? Interesting. Really?He isn't.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jan 11, 2023 14:33:27 GMT
Am I right in saying abit of a Grealish light? I’d say that’s a very good way of describing him. No mention of Stoke interest anywhere looks like his destination is Rangers. I hope the AN factor can steer him our way. Maybe he needs a change of scene and someone like Neil to twist his head back in the right direction. An on-form Cantwell would be terrific for us. I would go so far as to say that an form anybody would be terrific for us. It would certainly make a change.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 11, 2023 14:35:23 GMT
If he can create chances for others it hopefully won't matter how many he scores, very different I know but Sidibe didn't score all that many, it's what else he may bring to the side, maybe it'll add some sort of ballance to the forward options. Yeah he was shit too. Only to people that couldn't see what he brought to the team.
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Post by onionman on Jan 11, 2023 14:40:48 GMT
Jordan Hugill was always going to play for Stoke one day, it's just a question of when.
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Post by shakermaker on Jan 11, 2023 15:03:32 GMT
Hugill scored 4 in 36 for Norwich, 1 in 20 on loan at WBA and 4 in 18 on loan at Cardiff. Hardly a striker that "carries a goal threat". As a link up player, he might be something we need, but I remember being pretty annoyed with how few Fletcher scored (12 in 72). He did score 13 in 39 for QPR three seasons ago though. I don’t think Norwich and WBA are good reflections as he obviously wasn’t first choice striker at either, and most Cardiff fans actually say he made them a better side with his hard-working, no-nonsense approach. I certainly don’t think he should be considered a first team regular for us, but would be a good option against teams with big, strong defenders or off the bench when we’re chasing the game.
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 11, 2023 15:05:34 GMT
Didn't he once fuck off up the Vale? Had more clubs than Tiger Woods. A no thank you from me 😁
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Post by cheadlestokie on Jan 11, 2023 15:09:51 GMT
Been saying for a long time Hugill is exactly what we need If he is what we need we may as well pack up now. Journeyman, slow, no ability on the ball Typical signing of bottom of Championship side or League 1 set up May therefore be what we need if we are settling for that
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 11, 2023 15:11:13 GMT
I think I'll cry if we sign Jordan Hugill.
Need to stop signing players whose careers are on the way down..........
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 11, 2023 15:15:03 GMT
To be fait to Hugill, he's had virtually no minutes in the clubs where he's been recently. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jordan-hugill/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/291544674 minutes (so about 6 games at Norwich) 1000 mins at WBA In his last full season in the Champ (19/20), he scored 15 at QPR. And we know he's performed a key role in a Neil team that won him a £9.5m move to the Prem and glowing praise from Neil. Is he perfect? No. But we've got to acknowledge the financial pond we're able to fish in unless we sell Souttar, and he would hopefully be a hard-working foil who did the ugly stuff none of ours can do. Not that there's even any link to him at all!
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 11, 2023 15:15:05 GMT
Only to people that couldn't see what he brought to the team. Must have been a lot of them. Don't ever recall anyone clamouring for his services.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 11, 2023 15:16:32 GMT
To be fait to Hugill, he's had virtually no minutes in the clubs where he's been recently. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jordan-hugill/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/291544674 minutes (so about 6 games at Norwich) 1000 mins at WBA In his last full season in the Champ (19/20), he scored 15 at QPR. And we know he's performed a key role in a Neil team that won him a £9.5m move to the Prem and glowing praise from Neil. Is he perfect? No. But we've got to acknowledge the financial pond we're able to fish in unless we sell Souttar, and he would hopefully be a hard-working foil who did the ugly stuff none of ours can do. Not that there's even any link to him at all! I'd much sooner we spent fuck all and used Nick Powell to lead the line.
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Post by onionman on Jan 11, 2023 15:23:55 GMT
To be fait to Hugill, he's had virtually no minutes in the clubs where he's been recently. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jordan-hugill/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/291544674 minutes (so about 6 games at Norwich) 1000 mins at WBA In his last full season in the Champ (19/20), he scored 15 at QPR. And we know he's performed a key role in a Neil team that won him a £9.5m move to the Prem and glowing praise from Neil. Is he perfect? No. But we've got to acknowledge the financial pond we're able to fish in unless we sell Souttar, and he would hopefully be a hard-working foil who did the ugly stuff none of ours can do. Not that there's even any link to him at all! Pretty sure I've heard that argument in defence of Gayle and Vokes. The lack of minutes is a reason not to sign him, isn't it? Strikers generally don't disappear in their late 20s and then suddenly come good at the same level in their 30s.
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 11, 2023 15:24:52 GMT
Has there been any actual link to Stoke, or just people putting 2 and 2 together?.
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 11, 2023 15:30:45 GMT
So if he does sign, where does Stoke's confidence in him come from? I'm not part of the recruitment team, it's best to ask them 😂 Maybe you should be.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 11, 2023 15:37:33 GMT
To be fait to Hugill, he's had virtually no minutes in the clubs where he's been recently. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jordan-hugill/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/291544674 minutes (so about 6 games at Norwich) 1000 mins at WBA In his last full season in the Champ (19/20), he scored 15 at QPR. And we know he's performed a key role in a Neil team that won him a £9.5m move to the Prem and glowing praise from Neil. Is he perfect? No. But we've got to acknowledge the financial pond we're able to fish in unless we sell Souttar, and he would hopefully be a hard-working foil who did the ugly stuff none of ours can do. Not that there's even any link to him at all! Pretty sure I've heard that argument in defence of Gayle and Vokes. The lack of minutes is a reason not to sign him, isn't it? Strikers generally don't disappear in their late 20s and then suddenly come good at the same level in their 30s. www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.php?454370-Hugill-Return/page2&s=288013a64daea377f363dcea2c6d5c4dCardiff fans were generally positive Fair point, but not sure there's definitive proof he's washed up though. He's just been starved of minutes. He's only 30. And he's never relied on pace in the way Gayle has. Of course the danger is if he's Vokes Mk II. But a loan 'til the end of the seaosn wouldn't break us in that way And the market we're fishing in for that type would be really shallow as can be seen with loads of Champ names being linked
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Post by monkeycat on Jan 11, 2023 15:44:57 GMT
Bentley will be a big improvement on what we have now
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Post by knype on Jan 11, 2023 15:45:49 GMT
Bentley will be a big improvement on what we have now Signing then Monkey ? Who else in and out ?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 11, 2023 15:48:22 GMT
Bentley will be a big improvement on what we have now Was at the ground last Friday wasn’t he?
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Post by onionman on Jan 11, 2023 15:49:42 GMT
Pretty sure I've heard that argument in defence of Gayle and Vokes. The lack of minutes is a reason not to sign him, isn't it? Strikers generally don't disappear in their late 20s and then suddenly come good at the same level in their 30s. www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.php?454370-Hugill-Return/page2&s=288013a64daea377f363dcea2c6d5c4dCardiff fans were generally positive Fair point, but not sure there's definitive proof he's washed up though. He's just been starved of minutes. He's only 30. And he's never relied on pace in the way Gayle has. Of course the danger is if he's Vokes Mk II. But a loan 'til the end of the seaosn wouldn't break us in that way And the market we're fishing in for that type would be really shallow as can be seen with loads of Champ names being linked Well I guess it's impossible to be worse than any target man we've had in the past 6 years.
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Post by David Brent on Jan 11, 2023 15:51:41 GMT
Sending Delap back for Hugill is a massive mistake
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 11, 2023 15:52:36 GMT
Hugill scored 4 in 36 for Norwich, 1 in 20 on loan at WBA and 4 in 18 on loan at Cardiff. Hardly a striker that "carries a goal threat". As a link up player, he might be something we need, but I remember being pretty annoyed with how few Fletcher scored (12 in 72). I agree. I also remember at how many inexcusable sitters Fletcher missed. A needless rebona attempt at reading being one.
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