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Post by thewonderstuff on Jan 27, 2023 13:36:10 GMT
What the 15% we have to pay Dundee Utd? You've cherry picked the last five words of a quite financially detailed sentence in order to highlight the lowest sum mentioned to suit your dig at the club. Why ignore the fact that the £12m is cash in hand and available to spend having deducted the sell on to Dundee Utd? Why ignore the fact that there is potentially an extra £3.5m in add ons? Or that we may have a sell on which will increase the sum even further. What figure would you have been happy with? You think the other 13 words in the sentence added quite detailed financial analysis? 12M cash in hand is not to be sniffed at but is wank in terms of this particular deal. Player under a long contract who we have behaved remarkably well with and protected so he could pursue his World Cup dreams. He ends up being one of the notable players of the tournament away from the high profile teams and he goes for £10M less than Webster to Brighton for 3 years back. It's utter shite but as it say on the Stoke badge 'Quid faciamus'* (*I looked it up!)
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 27, 2023 13:39:01 GMT
You've cherry picked the last five words of a quite financially detailed sentence in order to highlight the lowest sum mentioned to suit your dig at the club. Why ignore the fact that the £12m is cash in hand and available to spend having deducted the sell on to Dundee Utd? Why ignore the fact that there is potentially an extra £3.5m in add ons? Or that we may have a sell on which will increase the sum even further. What figure would you have been happy with? You think the other 13 words in the sentence added quite detailed financial analysis? 12M cash in hand is not to be sniffed at but is wank in terms of this particular deal. Player under a long contract who we have behaved remarkably well with and protected so he could pursue his World Cup dreams. He ends up being one of the notable players of the tournament away from the high profile teams and he goes for £10M less than Webster to Brighton for 3 years back. It's utter shite but as it say on the Stoke badge 'Quid faciamus'* (*I looked it up!) So what would you have been happy with?
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jan 27, 2023 13:40:28 GMT
You think the other 13 words in the sentence added quite detailed financial analysis? 12M cash in hand is not to be sniffed at but is wank in terms of this particular deal. Player under a long contract who we have behaved remarkably well with and protected so he could pursue his World Cup dreams. He ends up being one of the notable players of the tournament away from the high profile teams and he goes for £10M less than Webster to Brighton for 3 years back. It's utter shite but as it say on the Stoke badge 'Quid faciamus'* (*I looked it up!) So what would you have been happy with? Last week I gave 18M plus Iverson (and a sell on) my much sought after nod of approval. But 'what could we do?'
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 27, 2023 13:42:00 GMT
We seem to be going down the Johnny Foreigner route again🤔 Let’s hope it all works out and we see an improvement in results in the coming months
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 27, 2023 13:44:40 GMT
So far we've placed unproven outfield loan players with........unproven outfield loan players. Only one is unproven no?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 27, 2023 13:46:07 GMT
So what would you have been happy with? Last week I gave 18M plus Iverson (and a sell on) my much sought after nod of approval. But 'what could we do?' Indeed. That was the sort of figure I was looking for but clearly that wasn't achievable was it or we'd have got that? Whilst we're quoting Latin on a similar theme try quid faciamus homines miserrimi
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 27, 2023 13:48:16 GMT
So far we've placed unproven outfield loan players with........unproven outfield loan players. I thought we'd signed a keeper who recently played for Wolves at Liverpool and earned a draw 🤔 Outfield so I'm guessing he's not including the keeper as it would go against the nonsense point he's trying to make.
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Post by chopperscfc on Jan 27, 2023 13:48:34 GMT
Nat Chalobah to the Baggies Hed be a perfect dm for us Can’t believe we haven’t gone in for him
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Post by musik on Jan 27, 2023 13:48:37 GMT
What happened with that monster playing for Pboro?
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Post by arniehudson on Jan 27, 2023 13:53:21 GMT
It may all turn to shit but U like what Neil has done so far in the window. He’s got rid of 4/5 players we know weren’t up to the job and brought in 3 who just might be.
Not only that but they’re foreign thus proving we’re not eternally damned to shopping in the EFL bargain basement. It just seems a bit more exciting when you don’t quite know what you’ve got but it’s potentially better than we have.
Neil has made some big calls so there’s no doubt where the praise or damnation should be heading. Maybe it’s my advanced years or the early onset of senility but I feel more hopeful than I have for some time.
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Post by bertiestan on Jan 27, 2023 13:56:29 GMT
What happened with that monster playing for Pboro? Are you referring to Clarke Harris?
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 27, 2023 13:59:06 GMT
Hed be a perfect dm for us Can’t believe we haven’t gone in for him Nore me. Almost ideal. Any more in do you reckon? Not to put words in your mouth, Kilkenny out another loan in? Sterling signed? Winger (redmond) on a perm?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 27, 2023 14:16:26 GMT
Millwall move for Hibs striker off - wonder if they'll be back for Dykes?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 27, 2023 14:19:40 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 27, 2023 14:20:45 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 27, 2023 14:21:36 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 27, 2023 14:54:35 GMT
So far we've placed unproven outfield loan players with........unproven outfield loan players. Only one is unproven no? As a winger he very much is. As a number 10 not so much so it depends where Neil wants to play him I guess. All his best football for Ipswich and Swansea was in the number 10 role...........
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 27, 2023 15:12:20 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 27, 2023 15:15:32 GMT
Yikes. Best strap ourselves in. It might get bumpy.
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Post by baystokie on Jan 27, 2023 15:16:15 GMT
I'd only got as far as Berry and Eastham. I'm sure there were loads back in the day when George was a more common name. George Mountford, brother of Frank. George was a cracking player back in the day. George 'Stringbean' Kelly when Johnny King played alongside him and Little Joe Hutton. That was a funny setup... Little Joe was about 5 feet tall and George was about 6 feet 5 inches. But those three gelled brilliantly. OS. Sorry - George Mountford and Frank Mountford were not related
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 27, 2023 15:17:15 GMT
As a winger he very much is. As a number 10 not so much so it depends where Neil wants to play him I guess. All his best football for Ipswich and Swansea was in the number 10 role........... He's played similar in both positions by the looks of whats been posted previously so I'd say proven regardless imo.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 27, 2023 15:18:31 GMT
Sounds good, we all knew it was needed but tbh I didn't think it would actually happen.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jan 27, 2023 15:29:02 GMT
Yikes. Best strap ourselves in. It might get bumpy. The 2 things you can guarantee on a Transfer window bumpy ride....a) Classic Davesviews/Hackett/Youtube montage & b) The slightest whiff of any busy few days/cash in/cash out = Peter Coates with THAT look on his face Cometh the man, cometh the dong!
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 27, 2023 15:45:03 GMT
What the 15% we have to pay Dundee Utd? You've cherry picked the last five words of a quite financially detailed sentence in order to highlight the lowest sum mentioned to suit your dig at the club. Why ignore the fact that the £12m is cash in hand and available to spend having deducted the sell on to Dundee Utd? Why ignore the fact that there is potentially an extra £3.5m in add ons? Or that we may have a sell on which will increase the sum even further. What figure would you have been happy with? £100 million minus £15 million to Dundee = £85 million for Stoke. Anything less and we should tell them to shove it. Plus a 90% sell on clause and a buyback option of £500K.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Jan 27, 2023 15:48:11 GMT
Yet another Manager who is shaking up the squad he inherited
Hope this one works
Fourth time lucky!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 27, 2023 16:46:23 GMT
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Post by nott1 on Jan 27, 2023 16:49:39 GMT
Yikes. Best strap ourselves in. It might get bumpy. The 2 things you can guarantee on a Transfer window bumpy ride....a) Classic Davesviews/Hackett/Youtube montage & b) The slightest whiff of any busy few days/cash in/cash out = Peter Coates with THAT look on his face Cometh the man, cometh the dong! The Dong is being readied!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 27, 2023 17:01:45 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jan 27, 2023 17:04:32 GMT
'Anything raised from any sale would be reinvested straight into the team'
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Post by etebojan on Jan 27, 2023 17:13:28 GMT
All very interesting and completely contradicts what a lot of Oatcake ITKs have been saying regarding FFP catastrophe if we don't sell Souttar.
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