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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 24, 2023 10:34:33 GMT
I agree, but it’s not like they are pumping players full of steroids or bribing officials. The FFP law isn’t really in “the spirit of the game” in my opinion and if FIFA/UEFA/FA wanted the game to be a more level playing field, they’d have introduced laws that actually make it such. You can bet your bottom dollar that if the big clubs felt this disadvantaged them in anyway they'd take this to arbitration Funnily enough none of the elite clubs have done this which suggests it's not them who get disadvantaged but rather smaller clubs and stops them growing to compete with the upper echelons Restrictive practice surely? Most professional sports leagues have some form of regulation - the North American competitions are comfortably the most restrictive. I agree its. blunt instrument but the problem is owners who chase success at any cost and now foreign investors looking to generate a quick return. In truth, very few clubs have been hindered by FFP. Stoke City never spent what they could have done in the Premier League period and clubs like Bolton and Derby ran into problems from overspending. Me are close to unique in having every FFP problems and owners willing to invest at scale. Which raises the question, with so many resources why is the club in such a difficult place?
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 24, 2023 11:08:10 GMT
I guess it’s just about playing to the spirit of the game. There was a loophole about selling your stadium to your owners. We did it just before it was closed and are likely to escape serious penalties. There's not but you can't sell it for £50 million if it's only worth £20 million.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 24, 2023 11:41:53 GMT
There was a loophole about selling your stadium to your owners. We did it just before it was closed and are likely to escape serious penalties. There's not but you can't sell it for £50 million if it's only worth £20 million. Yes we clearly priced it correctly in line with the rules at the time. Derby and Sheff Wed's cheated by over valuing it and in the Wendies case fiddled the year in which the payment fell and quite rightly got done for it.
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Post by liathroid on Jan 24, 2023 11:47:18 GMT
There's not but you can't sell it for £50 million if it's only worth £20 million. Yes we clearly priced it correctly in line with the rules at the time. Derby and Sheff Wed's cheated by over valuing it and in the Wendies case fiddled the year in which the payment fell and quite rightly got done for it. its a funny situation to value a stadium and having to build a new one , what would Goodison Park valued at as against the new one being built
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 24, 2023 11:53:47 GMT
Yes we clearly priced it correctly in line with the rules at the time. Derby and Sheff Wed's cheated by over valuing it and in the Wendies case fiddled the year in which the payment fell and quite rightly got done for it. its a funny situation to value a stadium and having to build a new one , what would Goodison Park valued at as against the new one being built I suppose it depends what you're valuing it for? If it's as a stand alone sports stadium wouldn't be that much because it's an utterly run down shit hole but as a plot of land potentially for redevelopment or building quite a lot because of it's position in a built up area (Goodison that is).
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Post by gaznandi on Jan 24, 2023 12:07:51 GMT
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Post by gcamoutsideboot on Jan 24, 2023 12:09:50 GMT
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 24, 2023 12:10:19 GMT
its a funny situation to value a stadium and having to build a new one , what would Goodison Park valued at as against the new one being built I suppose it depends what you're valuing it for? If it's as a stand alone sports stadium wouldn't be that much because it's an utterly run down shit hole but as a plot of land potentially for redevelopment or building quite a lot because of it's position in a built up area (Goodison that is). The value for an existing stadium comes from the payments over time a club makes to stage matches, have its offices in the stadium. And then what the stadium can do in terms of events etc. West Ham is a good example of a stadium owned by another organisation.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 24, 2023 12:21:08 GMT
Three and a half years, sheer madness.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 24, 2023 12:25:47 GMT
Do we think McNair or the Dutch right back Boro are willing to move on would improve us? Suspect they probably would?
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Post by Pirate on Jan 24, 2023 12:27:49 GMT
Do we think McNair or the Dutch right back Boro are willing to move on would improve us? Suspect they probably would? McNair certainly would, top player at this level for me
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 24, 2023 12:28:51 GMT
Do we think McNair or the Dutch right back Boro are willing to move on would improve us? Suspect they probably would? Are they willing to move on Dijksteel? A boro lad I know raves about him, often referring to him as their best player and hates that tommy smith is favoured over him.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jan 24, 2023 12:32:14 GMT
Do we think McNair or the Dutch right back Boro are willing to move on would improve us? Suspect they probably would? Are they willing to move on Dijksteel? A boro lad I know raves about him, often referring to him as their best player and hates that tommy smith is favoured over him. Is his name bayernparmo?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 24, 2023 12:32:34 GMT
Do we think McNair or the Dutch right back Boro are willing to move on would improve us? Suspect they probably would? Are they willing to move on Dijksteel? A boro lad I know raves about him, often referring to him as their best player and hates that tommy smith is favoured over him. Saw a report earlier that suggested they were. Been injured I think.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 24, 2023 12:33:40 GMT
Do we think McNair or the Dutch right back Boro are willing to move on would improve us? Suspect they probably would? McNair certainly would, top player at this level for me Reading FMTTM seems like he's had a bit of a ropey last 12 months or so and there are some concerns about him defensively. Could be a decent cheapish option for the Souttar role though maybe?
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 24, 2023 12:34:35 GMT
Boro have done well and assembled a very good well balanced squad. Just a quick look at their forward players and it consists of Archer, Forrs, Akpom, Isiah Jones, Watmore and Ryan Giles. Any of those would walk into our side right now
As for McNair, he would be an excellent signing, especially as he can play centre half or DM. Dont know much about Dijksteel
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Post by Pirate on Jan 24, 2023 12:36:25 GMT
McNair certainly would, top player at this level for me Reading FMTTM seems like he's had a bit of a ropey last 12 months or so and there are some concerns about him defensively. Could be a decent cheapish option for the Souttar role though maybe? I was thinking DM but either or, which is part of the appeal? Cant attest to recent form but whenever i have seen him he has looked that little bit better than his pears, you know one of those champ players that looks different level in this league but not quite Premiership, like say Billy Sharp or our own Nick Powell?
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Post by nott1 on Jan 24, 2023 12:42:40 GMT
Boro have done well and assembled a very good well balanced squad. Just a quick look at their forward players and it consists of Archer, Forrs, Akpom, Isiah Jones, Watmore and Ryan Giles. Any of those would walk into our side right now As for McNair, he would be an excellent signing, especially as he can play centre half or DM. Dont know much about Dijksteel I could walk into our side right now.......running would be another story.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jan 24, 2023 12:47:27 GMT
After the optimism at the weekend, it seems to now have gone very quiet on the incomings front.
I've not seen us linked with any target men other than Van Hooijdonk which is a bit of a concern. Also very few wide players linked.
I hope we don't leave it too late because that's when the shit deals are done, but sometimes when it goes very quiet, Stoke pull one out of the bag
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Post by s7oke on Jan 24, 2023 12:47:48 GMT
Boro have done well and assembled a very good well balanced squad. Just a quick look at their forward players and it consists of Archer, Forrs, Akpom, Isiah Jones, Watmore and Ryan Giles. Any of those would walk into our side right now As for McNair, he would be an excellent signing, especially as he can play centre half or DM. Dont know much about Dijksteel I could walk into our side right now.......running would be another story. Probably room for me too but I would get sent off
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 24, 2023 12:50:57 GMT
It's going to be really interesting last week, to see what type of player we bring in, might give us some indication of where are looking to go team set up and personnel while in the future.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jan 24, 2023 13:03:02 GMT
I thought we'd tried to do that already in recent seasons. Motando, "Billie Jean", Doughty, Wright Phillips and many others.
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Post by biglad180 on Jan 24, 2023 13:10:43 GMT
i would love to see a winger who is direct,someone who just takes on defenders like a Demary Gray type,
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Post by somersetstokie on Jan 24, 2023 13:13:34 GMT
After the optimism at the weekend, it seems to now have gone very quiet on the incomings front. I've not seen us linked with any target men other than Van Hooijdonk which is a bit of a concern. Also very few wide players linked. I hope we don't leave it too late because that's when the shit deals are done, but sometimes when it goes very quiet, Stoke pull one out of the bag I miss the TP days. Guaranteed Centre Half by Friday lunchtime.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 24, 2023 13:28:11 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Jan 24, 2023 14:03:48 GMT
After the optimism at the weekend, it seems to now have gone very quiet on the incomings front. I've not seen us linked with any target men other than Van Hooijdonk which is a bit of a concern. Also very few wide players linked. I hope we don't leave it too late because that's when the shit deals are done, but sometimes when it goes very quiet, Stoke pull one out of the bag I miss the TP days. Guaranteed Centre Half by Friday lunchtime. More like 3 or 4 centre half's
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Post by Goonie on Jan 24, 2023 14:14:12 GMT
Three and a half years, sheer madness. Was prepared to give the benefit of the doubt if he'd of signed but on that contract bullet dodged!
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Post by thevoid on Jan 24, 2023 14:19:02 GMT
After the optimism at the weekend, it seems to now have gone very quiet on the incomings front. I've not seen us linked with any target men other than Van Hooijdonk which is a bit of a concern. Also very few wide players linked. I hope we don't leave it too late because that's when the shit deals are done, but sometimes when it goes very quiet, Stoke pull one out of the bag I miss the TP days. Guaranteed Centre Half by Friday lunchtime. And Roarke's Drift away at Fulham on Saturday afternoon
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 24, 2023 14:20:09 GMT
Three and a half years, sheer madness. Was prepared to give the benefit of the doubt if he'd of signed but on that contract bullet dodged! It could be a case of mitigating FFP with the length of contract. Can't see any other economic reason for such a lengthy contract for a 30 year old.
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Post by wiss76 on Jan 24, 2023 14:23:11 GMT
Remember roll up man - hilarious
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