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Post by nott1 on Jan 23, 2023 12:15:55 GMT
How the freakin heck is he a star? Don't ya know, everyone's a star in the PL Not in my opinion!
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Post by somersetstokie on Jan 23, 2023 12:30:45 GMT
Will be really interesting what type of player Alex Neil brings in. Will hopefully give us an idea into which direction he will take us, playing style, moving forward. If he brings in some League 1 players, would that mean that he's preparing us for League 1 football, and that's the direction he's taking us?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 23, 2023 12:38:32 GMT
I wasn’t having a dig at Wilmot specifically I was just using it as an example of how much worse it could have been if Carroll had played and that Souttar would have coped with that physicality much better and therefore we would have missed his presence. In actual fact you’re only partly right. Wilmot did win the header (albeit it was a shit header) but was weak as piss to allow Miete to knock him over and run onto the free ball. I thought it was a foul as well but clearly that deranged imbecile Ward didn’t. Nitpicking I know but if you're talking about the save Bonham had to make it was definitely Jagielka. At the match I thought it was Wilmot but on the highlights I noticed his wrist was bandaged which was Jags. I just get fed up of Wilmot being blamed all the time when he's a capable defender and in my opinion shows more commitment thanost to Stoke. Like you say mate it wasn't the point I was making. I wasn't specifically having a go at Wilmot but it absolutely WAS him involved in that incident. I've just watched the highlights again and freeze framed them just to make sure I wasn't going mad and you can clearly see the number 16 on his back. And I put my glasses on as well.
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Post by tony10 on Jan 23, 2023 13:12:29 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jan 23, 2023 13:14:14 GMT
Will be really interesting what type of player Alex Neil brings in. Will hopefully give us an idea into which direction he will take us, playing style, moving forward. If he brings in some League 1 players, would that mean that he's preparing us for League 1 football, and that's the direction he's taking us? Have we been linked with any League 1 players?
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Post by lordb on Jan 23, 2023 13:15:24 GMT
Nitpicking I know but if you're talking about the save Bonham had to make it was definitely Jagielka. At the match I thought it was Wilmot but on the highlights I noticed his wrist was bandaged which was Jags. I just get fed up of Wilmot being blamed all the time when he's a capable defender and in my opinion shows more commitment thanost to Stoke. Like you say mate it wasn't the point I was making. I wasn't specifically having a go at Wilmot but it absolutely WAS him involved in that incident. I've just watched the highlights again and freeze framed them just to make sure I wasn't going mad and you can clearly see the number 16 on his back. And I put my glasses on as well. Wilmot needs to grow his hair again so we can distinguish better
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 23, 2023 13:16:44 GMT
Like you say mate it wasn't the point I was making. I wasn't specifically having a go at Wilmot but it absolutely WAS him involved in that incident. I've just watched the highlights again and freeze framed them just to make sure I wasn't going mad and you can clearly see the number 16 on his back. And I put my glasses on as well. Wilmot needs to grow his hair again so we can distinguish better It was only his Keith Lemon bandage that I could tell him by on Saturday.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 23, 2023 13:21:27 GMT
If he brings in some League 1 players, would that mean that he's preparing us for League 1 football, and that's the direction he's taking us? Have we been linked with any League 1 players? Just a few wondering why Alex Neil was watching Vale v Posh to be fair there is nothing wrong with watching league 1 players anyhow if they improve us
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Post by s7oke on Jan 23, 2023 13:22:03 GMT
14 games one goal one assist this season Nailed on 😱
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 23, 2023 13:22:16 GMT
He's not exactly prolific is he and presumably he'll command a fee. Unless it's a loan.
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Post by lordb on Jan 23, 2023 13:23:34 GMT
He's not exactly prolific is he and presumably he'll command a fee. Unless it's a loan. scored pretty healthily abroad can't say as would be excited but need to know more before dismissing him 24
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 23, 2023 13:28:44 GMT
He's not exactly prolific is he and presumably he'll command a fee. Unless it's a loan. scored pretty healthily abroad can't say as would be excited but need to know more before dismissing him 24 Averaged 1 in 4 ish for the last two seasons at Troyes and Genk. looked better in the Belgian leagues before that. Who knows? I suppose in the waters we're fishing in now most no fee deals are a gamble.
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Post by idle on Jan 23, 2023 13:39:25 GMT
Don't ya know, everyone's a star in the PL Not in my opinion! Agreed, it was a dig at the whore media circus
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 23, 2023 13:58:48 GMT
Spotted that earlier. I wonder if there would be any potential interest in him for a short term deal (2 years) at the age of 35. Obviously his fitness/agility would need serious assessment. Whereas his experience/professionalism wouldn’t. he's on a reported £60k a week so forget it As I said in an earlier post…..he won’t be in the summer.
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Post by tony10 on Jan 23, 2023 14:02:14 GMT
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 23, 2023 14:05:21 GMT
What the fuck were you watching. Unless we’re talking absolute prime Andy Caroll I doubt very much he’s more powerful than Miete. Our CB’s were far more comfortable against Jao(sp) who is a bigger framed bloke more like Caroll. Miete is very strong and powerful. He can still get up and head the ball and would cause ANY of our defenders a problem at set pieces! And that has what to do with Wilmot being called weak as piss and easily knocked off the ball by the insignificant lathe Miete? The post was about our player being outmuscled by Miete as if Miete is some little weakling when infact he's a considerable physical specimen that would pose a physical conundrum to most CB's. Wilmot had his measure by the second half showing he worked out how he could mitigate the other player being stronger. That's a good thing, some players don't learn as they play and if an opponent has the drop on them it continues in that vein until subbed or the game ends.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 23, 2023 14:07:23 GMT
the72.co.uk/2023/01/23/exclusive-millwall-stoke-city-swansea-city-all-keen-on-serie-a-striker-currently-out-on-loan/Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City are among the sides interested in Dutch striker Sydney van Hooijdonk, The72 has been told. Van Hooijdonk, 22, currently plays for Eredivisie side Heerenveen, on loan from Serie A side Bologna. He’s scored seven goals in 18 appearances in all competitions this season, having scored seven in 15 on loan with the club during the second half of last season too. But The72 has been told that there are several teams in England and around Europe keen on the youngster, with Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City among the Championship sides keen on van Hooijdonk, who is keen on a move to England.
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Post by stokeypenn89 on Jan 23, 2023 14:10:55 GMT
the72.co.uk/2023/01/23/exclusive-millwall-stoke-city-swansea-city-all-keen-on-serie-a-striker-currently-out-on-loan/Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City are among the sides interested in Dutch striker Sydney van Hooijdonk, The72 has been told. Van Hooijdonk, 22, currently plays for Eredivisie side Heerenveen, on loan from Serie A side Bologna. He’s scored seven goals in 18 appearances in all competitions this season, having scored seven in 15 on loan with the club during the second half of last season too. But The72 has been told that there are several teams in England and around Europe keen on the youngster, with Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City among the Championship sides keen on van Hooijdonk, who is keen on a move to England. If he's anywhere near being the player his old man was, then this could be a great signing!
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 23, 2023 14:11:44 GMT
the72.co.uk/2023/01/23/exclusive-millwall-stoke-city-swansea-city-all-keen-on-serie-a-striker-currently-out-on-loan/Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City are among the sides interested in Dutch striker Sydney van Hooijdonk, The72 has been told. Van Hooijdonk, 22, currently plays for Eredivisie side Heerenveen, on loan from Serie A side Bologna. He’s scored seven goals in 18 appearances in all competitions this season, having scored seven in 15 on loan with the club during the second half of last season too. But The72 has been told that there are several teams in England and around Europe keen on the youngster, with Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City among the Championship sides keen on van Hooijdonk, who is keen on a move to England. That would be an interesting long term signing. Just hope it wouldn't be with the intention of an instant major impact that was expected from Delap.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 23, 2023 14:20:15 GMT
Will be really interesting what type of player Alex Neil brings in. Will hopefully give us an idea into which direction he will take us, playing style, moving forward. If he brings in some League 1 players, would that mean that he's preparing us for League 1 football, and that's the direction he's taking us? What, like when Brentford signed Toney? We need players on the way up with resale value, not on the way down
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 23, 2023 14:21:46 GMT
the72.co.uk/2023/01/23/exclusive-millwall-stoke-city-swansea-city-all-keen-on-serie-a-striker-currently-out-on-loan/Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City are among the sides interested in Dutch striker Sydney van Hooijdonk, The72 has been told. Van Hooijdonk, 22, currently plays for Eredivisie side Heerenveen, on loan from Serie A side Bologna. He’s scored seven goals in 18 appearances in all competitions this season, having scored seven in 15 on loan with the club during the second half of last season too. But The72 has been told that there are several teams in England and around Europe keen on the youngster, with Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City among the Championship sides keen on van Hooijdonk, who is keen on a move to England. Pierre’s son
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 23, 2023 14:26:43 GMT
the72.co.uk/2023/01/23/exclusive-millwall-stoke-city-swansea-city-all-keen-on-serie-a-striker-currently-out-on-loan/Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City are among the sides interested in Dutch striker Sydney van Hooijdonk, The72 has been told. Van Hooijdonk, 22, currently plays for Eredivisie side Heerenveen, on loan from Serie A side Bologna. He’s scored seven goals in 18 appearances in all competitions this season, having scored seven in 15 on loan with the club during the second half of last season too. But The72 has been told that there are several teams in England and around Europe keen on the youngster, with Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City among the Championship sides keen on van Hooijdonk, who is keen on a move to England. These are the kind of links I'm here for. Sick of us buying boring british based players. Let's get some random foreign targets in. Loved his dad as a player and tbf he looks a handful who knows where the goal is.
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Post by etebojan on Jan 23, 2023 14:31:25 GMT
the72.co.uk/2023/01/23/exclusive-millwall-stoke-city-swansea-city-all-keen-on-serie-a-striker-currently-out-on-loan/Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City are among the sides interested in Dutch striker Sydney van Hooijdonk, The72 has been told. Van Hooijdonk, 22, currently plays for Eredivisie side Heerenveen, on loan from Serie A side Bologna. He’s scored seven goals in 18 appearances in all competitions this season, having scored seven in 15 on loan with the club during the second half of last season too. But The72 has been told that there are several teams in England and around Europe keen on the youngster, with Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City among the Championship sides keen on van Hooijdonk, who is keen on a move to England. These are the kind of links I'm here for. Sick of us buying boring british based players. Let's get some random foreign targets in. Loved his dad as a player and tbf he looks a handful who knows where the goal is. Absolutely spot on, exactly what we should be doing, looking for young 'unknown' gems abroad as loans with options to buy
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Post by AlliG on Jan 23, 2023 14:32:41 GMT
the72.co.uk/2023/01/23/exclusive-millwall-stoke-city-swansea-city-all-keen-on-serie-a-striker-currently-out-on-loan/Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City are among the sides interested in Dutch striker Sydney van Hooijdonk, The72 has been told. Van Hooijdonk, 22, currently plays for Eredivisie side Heerenveen, on loan from Serie A side Bologna. He’s scored seven goals in 18 appearances in all competitions this season, having scored seven in 15 on loan with the club during the second half of last season too. But The72 has been told that there are several teams in England and around Europe keen on the youngster, with Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City among the Championship sides keen on van Hooijdonk, who is keen on a move to England. If he's anywhere near being the player his old man was, then this could be a great signing! If he is anything like as disruptive in the dressing room as his old man I wouldn't want him anywhere near the place.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2023 14:34:57 GMT
the72.co.uk/2023/01/23/exclusive-millwall-stoke-city-swansea-city-all-keen-on-serie-a-striker-currently-out-on-loan/Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City are among the sides interested in Dutch striker Sydney van Hooijdonk, The72 has been told. Van Hooijdonk, 22, currently plays for Eredivisie side Heerenveen, on loan from Serie A side Bologna. He’s scored seven goals in 18 appearances in all competitions this season, having scored seven in 15 on loan with the club during the second half of last season too. But The72 has been told that there are several teams in England and around Europe keen on the youngster, with Millwall, Stoke City, and Swansea City among the Championship sides keen on van Hooijdonk, who is keen on a move to England. These are the kind of links I'm here for. Sick of us buying boring british based players. Let's get some random foreign targets in. Loved his dad as a player and tbf he looks a handful who knows where the goal is. Just look at him. A link with a foreigner and he's ripping around like John Holmes... 😉
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 23, 2023 14:46:11 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-van-hooijdonk-8063789He seems to be out of favour at Heerenveen, which is not a great sign. Maybe his agent just getting his name out there? www.vi.nl/nieuws/sc-heerenveen-wil-teleurgestelde-van-hooijdonk-behouden-hij-is-van-grote-waardeHe is the club's top scorer and was in the starting line-up in sixteen of the seventeen rounds this season, but whether Sydney van Hooijdonk (22) will still be a SC Heerenveen player in ten days' time cannot be said with certainty at the moment. Van Hooijdonk had to start on the bench in the derby against FC Groningen on Sunday. After his reserve turn in the cup match against FC Volendam, it was the second time in a short time that trainer Kees van Wonderen passed him in favor of Amin Sarr. When asked about his reserve role against Groningen, Van Hooijdonk made some striking statements. For example, he told Omrop Fryslân that he had great difficulty with his changed status. When asked, he held the door open for a departure this month. "I want to play and feel confident." Van Hooijdonk's concern cannot be traced back to one or two spare rolls. The striker feels that the cards in attack have been reshuffled for a longer period of time, with Amin Sarr the clear winner in the battle for the striker position. The automatic consequence of this is that Van Hooijdonk moves to the bench, which means that he fears a second half of the season. It is clear that Van Hooijdonk is upset with his situation at SC Heerenveen. In a response, technical manager Ferry de Haan of SC Heerenveen said that he would rather not let go of the striker hired from Bologna. “Sydney is a great value player in our squad. That remains the case, even now that he plays less. I understand that he is disappointed about that. That disappointment is even good.' Since Bologna has no unilateral option to terminate the rental of Van Hooijdonk prematurely, the Frisian club is in principle strong. At the same time, a situation in which Heerenveen will have to deal with a dissatisfied player for another half season is not an attractive prospect. De Haan: 'We are happy with Sydney and see enough prospects for him, but he may look at it differently and ultimately two parties must be happy with each other. If they want something, we will hear about it in the coming week, but again: we certainly don't have to.' Van Hooijdonk arrived at SC Heerenveen in January last year and, with seven goals, had a large share in the successful second half of the season for the Frisians, who then signed a new rental deal with Bologna for the current season. Van Hooijdonk has six goals in it. sc.heerenveen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6853&start=30Listened to his interview at OF with surprise. Rarely seen a player with so little self-reflection. Strange interview, a bit made to appear as if there was a conspiracy against him. Self-criticism or the ambition to prove wrong seems absent. A flight seems the easiest solution, or will we get a campaign to a lesser extent like at NAC at the time from camp van Hooijdonk. A player wants to play once and that he is now (and remains) a substitute, then I understand that you want to leave. Last season he was a super duo with Sarr in a 5-3-2 system. Van Wonderen also tried that at the beginning of the season with some accents, but apparently those accents are somewhat different from what Tobiasen did and it is not the dreaded duo of last year Then Van Wonderen tried 4-3-3 with Van Hooijdonk in rush hour and Sarr on the left. That was also not a success and then Van Wonderen played 4-3-3 against Volendam in the cup with Sarr in the striker. Despite the very limited opposition, Heerenveen created a chance after a chance and it went well Now that this in itself is a success formula and Sarr is from "öns", and has more talent, I don't see Van Hooijdonk becoming first striker for the time being. And I don't think Van Wonderen will switch to 5-3-2 or 4-3-3 with Sarr on the left again. I don't see it as giving up, but logically thinking he is just 2nd striker. And if you have also scored 6/7 goals, it is sour for him Look Sarr has to end up being our big sale, and Sydney is never going to make us any money. In addition, Sydney also does not play well enough to play Sarr out of the starting line-up. I think Sydney can still be of value if you need to play more opportunistically later in the game.
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Post by lordb on Jan 23, 2023 14:50:35 GMT
scoring record looks fine & a big fucker however he's playing in a league which is below Champ standard (yes I know how bad Championship is), bit like signing players from Scotland in that are you getting a potential star or a dud?
wages should be low if fee is as well could be an interesting gamble
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jan 23, 2023 14:55:29 GMT
Sydney van Hooijdonk??? Reet name
If it happens, the first Sydney to play for Stoke?
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 23, 2023 14:59:30 GMT
Sydney van Hooijdonk??? Reet name If it happens, the first Sydney to play for Stoke? Sydney Peppitt?
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Post by flea79 on Jan 23, 2023 14:59:49 GMT
Sydney van Hooijdonk??? Reet name If it happens, the first Sydney to play for Stoke? tbh i just want to hear Nige say his name!
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