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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 23, 2023 8:51:07 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 23, 2023 8:52:10 GMT
going for a Goalie that is no 2 at Birmingham makes no sense to me i rather had kept Bursik Bursik wasn't really doing much in the way of, you know, saving anything though? Could him being no 2 at Birmingham not be a case of them just having two good keepers? Etheridge was Cardiff's player of the season the last time they were in the Prem, he has decent pedigree. That was five years ago. Take out his season in the Prem and he’s had a nomadic lower league career not too dissimilar to Bonham. We absolutely need a new goalkeeper but I’m not convinced at all that he’s any better than what we’ve currently got, and if he is, why would Birmingham let him go to a rival?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 23, 2023 8:55:59 GMT
Bursik wasn't really doing much in the way of, you know, saving anything though? Could him being no 2 at Birmingham not be a case of them just having two good keepers? Etheridge was Cardiff's player of the season the last time they were in the Prem, he has decent pedigree. That was five years ago. Take out his season in the Prem and he’s had a nomadic lower league career not too dissimilar to Bonham. We absolutely need a new goalkeeper but I’m not convinced at all that he’s any better than what we’ve currently got, and if he is, why would Birmingham let him go to a rival? Because they're in dire straits and can't afford a non-playing keeper on 20 grand a week. Like a lot of players he bounced around a few clubs when he was younger and then broke through and has racked up a good amount of experience. 163 games in the top two divisions against Bonham's grand total of 30 (28 of those with us) sounds fairly dissimilar to me...
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 23, 2023 9:04:22 GMT
Mate we were very lucky Carroll couldn't play yesterday. He would have mullered all three. As it was Miete knocked Wilmot off the ball very easily in the first half and very nearly scored. At least Souttar would have stood a chance against him. It was Jagielka not Wilmot. I'm not saying Souttar's not good but I doubt his importance to the team. Sloppy mistakes are what cost us most Take it you’re referring to 1 particular incident as Wilmot was definitely struggling with Miete’s strength and power first half, seemed to have worked out how to mitigate that second half. No shame in that I happen to think Wilmot is one of our best players. I’d like a left sided version of him very much. Taylor could really do with another loan sitting on the bench isn’t doing anyone any favours.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 23, 2023 9:14:38 GMT
Mate we were very lucky Carroll couldn't play yesterday. He would have mullered all three. As it was Miete knocked Wilmot off the ball very easily in the first half and very nearly scored. At least Souttar would have stood a chance against him. It was Jagielka not Wilmot. I'm not saying Souttar's not good but I doubt his importance to the team. Sloppy mistakes are what cost us most It was Wilmot mate. But in any case that wasn’t the point. Whoever it was was weak as piss and was easily knocked off the ball by a smaller and less physical player than Carroll where I don’t believe Souttar would have been.
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Post by callas12 on Jan 23, 2023 9:15:35 GMT
I was thinking about transfers yesterday & wondering what type of players Neil's got lined up to walk through the door. & it dawned on me that Danny Batth to Sunderland was an Alex Neil signing 😉😁 To be fair he was probably an OK signing to bulk up their defence for the Div 1 Promotion/Play Off run in that they had but we'll soon find out what constitutes the DNA of a Neil signing. Batth was signed by Lee Johnson. Fair one
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 23, 2023 9:24:39 GMT
That was five years ago. Take out his season in the Prem and he’s had a nomadic lower league career not too dissimilar to Bonham. We absolutely need a new goalkeeper but I’m not convinced at all that he’s any better than what we’ve currently got, and if he is, why would Birmingham let him go to a rival? Because they're in dire straits and can't afford a non-playing keeper on 20 grand a week. Like a lot of players he bounced around a few clubs when he was younger and then broke through and has racked up a good amount of experience. 163 games in the top two divisions against Bonham's grand total of 30 (28 of those with us) sounds fairly dissimilar to me... If he’s on 20 grand a week then I think it’s safe to say he won’t be coming here.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 23, 2023 9:25:00 GMT
It was Jagielka not Wilmot. I'm not saying Souttar's not good but I doubt his importance to the team. Sloppy mistakes are what cost us most It was Wilmot and it was awful. He either needed to step up and he’d have been offside or if he did what he did, he has to win the ball. Crap defending. I wasn’t having a dig at Wilmot specifically I was just using it as an example of how much worse it could have been if Carroll had played and that Souttar would have coped with that physicality much better and therefore we would have missed his presence. In actual fact you’re only partly right. Wilmot did win the header (albeit it was a shit header) but was weak as piss to allow Miete to knock him over and run onto the free ball. I thought it was a foul as well but clearly that deranged imbecile Ward didn’t.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 23, 2023 9:25:21 GMT
It was Jagielka not Wilmot. I'm not saying Souttar's not good but I doubt his importance to the team. Sloppy mistakes are what cost us most It was Wilmot mate. But in any case that wasn’t the point. Whoever it was was weak as piss and was easily knocked off the ball by a smaller and less physical player than Carroll where I don’t believe Souttar would have been. What the fuck were you watching. Unless we’re talking absolute prime Andy Caroll I doubt very much he’s more powerful than Miete. Our CB’s were far more comfortable against Jao(sp) who is a bigger framed bloke more like Caroll. Miete is very strong and powerful.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 23, 2023 9:28:53 GMT
It was Wilmot and it was awful. He either needed to step up and he’d have been offside or if he did what he did, he has to win the ball. Crap defending. I wasn’t having a dig at Wilmot specifically I was just using it as an example of how much worse it could have been if Carroll had played and that Souttar would have coped with that physicality much better and therefore we would have missed his presence. In actual fact you’re only partly right. Wilmot did win the header (albeit it was a shit header) but was weak as piss to allow Miete to knock him over and run onto the free ball. I thought it was a foul as well but clearly that deranged imbecile Ward didn’t. Nah he was just weak.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 23, 2023 9:34:30 GMT
Because they're in dire straits and can't afford a non-playing keeper on 20 grand a week. Like a lot of players he bounced around a few clubs when he was younger and then broke through and has racked up a good amount of experience. 163 games in the top two divisions against Bonham's grand total of 30 (28 of those with us) sounds fairly dissimilar to me... If he’s on 20 grand a week then I think it’s safe to say he won’t be coming here. I strongly doubt he'll be on that wherever he ends up next.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 23, 2023 10:01:47 GMT
Doesn’t look like Flint will be off to Blackpool then if they’re signing the long throw specialist Charlie Goode
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 23, 2023 10:15:47 GMT
Spotted that earlier. I wonder if there would be any potential interest in him for a short term deal (2 years) at the age of 35. Obviously his fitness/agility would need serious assessment. Whereas his experience/professionalism wouldn’t.
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 23, 2023 10:18:55 GMT
Spotted that earlier. I wonder if there would be any potential interest in him for a short term deal (2 years) at the age of 35. Obviously his fitness/agility would need serious assessment. Whereas his experience/professionalism wouldn’t. He's on 80k a week sitting on his arse.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 23, 2023 10:30:09 GMT
Spotted that earlier. I wonder if there would be any potential interest in him for a short term deal (2 years) at the age of 35. Obviously his fitness/agility would need serious assessment. Whereas his experience/professionalism wouldn’t. He's on 80k a week sitting on his arse. In summer he’ll be sitting on his arse potentially with the absence of £80K a week
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jan 23, 2023 10:38:46 GMT
He's on 80k a week sitting on his arse. In summer he’ll be sitting on his arse potentially with the absence of £80K a week He'll end up in one of those last payday leagues, like the Saudi league, Qatar etc. I'll be very surprised if he stepped down to The Championship to someone like us without parachute payments and taking a massive pay cut.
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Post by UNKLE on Jan 23, 2023 10:40:44 GMT
I always liked Basham at blades. 34 now so no spring chicken. Cooper's contract expires in 6 months at Millwall. I don't know how much Pinnock plays these days but he'd be class. Pinnock played today for Brentford. Would be out of reach you'd think both now and the summer. Reckon a relegated team would gladly take him. Pinnock is contracted to 2025, and is first choice c/h. He won’t be coming to us.
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Post by pistol on Jan 23, 2023 10:40:52 GMT
I'd bloody love to see Bego back at Stoke if he can still perform, great bloke. Doesn't he give away a lot of his wages to his foundation and other charities?
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 23, 2023 11:04:55 GMT
It was Wilmot and it was awful. He either needed to step up and he’d have been offside or if he did what he did, he has to win the ball. Crap defending. I wasn’t having a dig at Wilmot specifically I was just using it as an example of how much worse it could have been if Carroll had played and that Souttar would have coped with that physicality much better and therefore we would have missed his presence. In actual fact you’re only partly right. Wilmot did win the header (albeit it was a shit header) but was weak as piss to allow Miete to knock him over and run onto the free ball. I thought it was a foul as well but clearly that deranged imbecile Ward didn’t. Nitpicking I know but if you're talking about the save Bonham had to make it was definitely Jagielka. At the match I thought it was Wilmot but on the highlights I noticed his wrist was bandaged which was Jags. I just get fed up of Wilmot being blamed all the time when he's a capable defender and in my opinion shows more commitment thanost to Stoke.
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Post by stokemark on Jan 23, 2023 11:10:12 GMT
It was Wilmot and it was awful. He either needed to step up and he’d have been offside or if he did what he did, he has to win the ball. Crap defending. I wasn’t having a dig at Wilmot specifically I was just using it as an example of how much worse it could have been if Carroll had played and that Souttar would have coped with that physicality much better and therefore we would have missed his presence. In actual fact you’re only partly right. Wilmot did win the header (albeit it was a shit header) but was weak as piss to allow Miete to knock him over and run onto the free ball. I thought it was a foul as well but clearly that deranged imbecile Ward didn’t. We could have played Taylor up against Carroll if needed who I think is stronger in the air / defensively than Wilmot
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Post by acstokie on Jan 23, 2023 11:13:37 GMT
I wasn’t having a dig at Wilmot specifically I was just using it as an example of how much worse it could have been if Carroll had played and that Souttar would have coped with that physicality much better and therefore we would have missed his presence. In actual fact you’re only partly right. Wilmot did win the header (albeit it was a shit header) but was weak as piss to allow Miete to knock him over and run onto the free ball. I thought it was a foul as well but clearly that deranged imbecile Ward didn’t. Nitpicking I know but if you're talking about the save Bonham had to make it was definitely Jagielka. At the match I thought it was Wilmot but on the highlights I noticed his wrist was bandaged which was Jags. I just get fed up of Wilmot being blamed all the time when he's a capable defender and in my opinion shows more commitment thanost to Stoke. Take another look, definitely Wilmot!
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Post by pistol on Jan 23, 2023 11:13:59 GMT
I wasn’t having a dig at Wilmot specifically I was just using it as an example of how much worse it could have been if Carroll had played and that Souttar would have coped with that physicality much better and therefore we would have missed his presence. In actual fact you’re only partly right. Wilmot did win the header (albeit it was a shit header) but was weak as piss to allow Miete to knock him over and run onto the free ball. I thought it was a foul as well but clearly that deranged imbecile Ward didn’t. Nitpicking I know but if you're talking about the save Bonham had to make it was definitely Jagielka. At the match I thought it was Wilmot but on the highlights I noticed his wrist was bandaged which was Jags. I just get fed up of Wilmot being blamed all the time when he's a capable defender and in my opinion shows more commitment thanost to Stoke. Hmmmm, shirt number 16....Wilmot
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Post by nott1 on Jan 23, 2023 11:18:36 GMT
The answer to our prayers, better than all the other goalies mentioned on here for this window....go get!
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Post by nott1 on Jan 23, 2023 11:21:48 GMT
Doesn’t look like Flint will be off to Blackpool then if they’re signing the long throw specialist Charlie Goode How the freakin heck is he a star?
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Post by nott1 on Jan 23, 2023 11:24:08 GMT
It was Wilmot mate. But in any case that wasn’t the point. Whoever it was was weak as piss and was easily knocked off the ball by a smaller and less physical player than Carroll where I don’t believe Souttar would have been. What the fuck were you watching. Unless we’re talking absolute prime Andy Caroll I doubt very much he’s more powerful than Miete. Our CB’s were far more comfortable against Jao(sp) who is a bigger framed bloke more like Caroll. Miete is very strong and powerful. He can still get up and head the ball and would cause ANY of our defenders a problem at set pieces!
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Post by lordb on Jan 23, 2023 11:39:17 GMT
Spotted that earlier. I wonder if there would be any potential interest in him for a short term deal (2 years) at the age of 35. Obviously his fitness/agility would need serious assessment. Whereas his experience/professionalism wouldn’t. he's on a reported £60k a week so forget it
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Post by lordb on Jan 23, 2023 11:40:09 GMT
What the fuck were you watching. Unless we’re talking absolute prime Andy Caroll I doubt very much he’s more powerful than Miete. Our CB’s were far more comfortable against Jao(sp) who is a bigger framed bloke more like Caroll. Miete is very strong and powerful. He can still get up and head the ball and would cause ANY of our defenders a problem at set pieces! how many goals do we concede from set pieces? is it more than the average? doubt that
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Post by nott1 on Jan 23, 2023 11:42:50 GMT
He can still get up and head the ball and would cause ANY of our defenders a problem at set pieces! how many goals do we concede from set pieces? is it more than the average? doubt that Carroll hasn't had the opportunity has he?
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Post by idle on Jan 23, 2023 11:45:54 GMT
Doesn’t look like Flint will be off to Blackpool then if they’re signing the long throw specialist Charlie Goode How the freakin heck is he a star? Don't ya know, everyone's a star in the PL
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 23, 2023 12:15:25 GMT
Will be really interesting what type of player Alex Neil brings in. Will hopefully give us an idea into which direction he will take us, playing style, moving forward.
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