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Post by s7oke on Jan 20, 2023 13:50:27 GMT
Another player we would have to pay money for but will be towards the end of his career after 3 years so no resale value. I thought we were after younger players to develop and sell on He’s only 27
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Post by independent on Jan 20, 2023 13:52:41 GMT
15 plus iversen an choudury sell on fee jobs a good un Dream on. Why does everyone think that Iverson (who is on 23k a week) would jump at the chance to move to a club who might be in League One next year. And even if both were agreeable,do you think we could afford to accept them, as a value would have to be given to them for FPP.
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Post by leoncort on Jan 20, 2023 14:00:10 GMT
Fosu basically announced in an image by Rotherham on twitter.
Before our own club could even bother. Weird one, good player in my opinion. AN wants wingers, there is one who just got promoted to the premier league, can beat a man and was a good age.
It’s starting to get really baffling. Lose tomorrow and pressure on big time.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 20, 2023 14:02:07 GMT
15 plus iversen an choudury sell on fee jobs a good un Dream on. Why does everyone think that Iverson (who is on 23k a week) would jump at the chance to move to a club who might be in League One next year. And even if both were agreeable,do you think we could afford to accept them, as a value would have to be given to them for FPP. Relegation contract break clauses could be incorporated quite easily. Imaginative pay arrangements could be agreed shirley. And surely any FFP value deficit they might incur would be more than offset by the profit from the sale of Souttar. Where there's a will there's a way.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jan 20, 2023 14:04:05 GMT
I was having a conversation with my missus, who is a Rugby girl rather than a football fan, but nevertheless is quite perceptive. I referred to the continual progression and development of young players who may have been at a club and supported by them for several years and then take the first opportunity to move on to the big stage. There is no perception of loyalty these days, and I said that Soutter seems to want to leave and will certainly go if he gets a big chance, although he is a player that we stood by during a long injury absence.
Her comment was: "Well would you stay at Stoke at the moment?"
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Post by acstokie on Jan 20, 2023 14:05:13 GMT
Dream on. Why does everyone think that Iverson (who is on 23k a week) would jump at the chance to move to a club who might be in League One next year. And even if both were agreeable,do you think we could afford to accept them, as a value would have to be given to them for FPP. Relegation contract break clauses could be incorporated quite easily. Imaginative pay arrangements could be agreed shirley. And surely any FFP value deficit they might incur would be more than offset by the profit from the sale of Souttar. Where there's a will there's a way. I agree, but don't call him Shirley!
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Post by nott1 on Jan 20, 2023 14:06:28 GMT
I was having a conversation with my missus, who is a Rugby girl rather than a football fan, but nevertheless is quite perceptive. I referred to the continual progression and development of young players who may have been at a club and supported by them for several years and then take the first opportunity to move on to the big stage. There is no perception of loyalty these days, and I said that Soutter seems to want to leave and will certainly go if he gets a big chance, although he is a player that we stood by during a long injury absence. Her comment was: "Well would you stay at Stoke at the moment?" Don't blame him because he won't be going anywhere with Stoke will he?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 20, 2023 14:12:08 GMT
Fosu basically announced in an image by Rotherham on twitter. Before our own club could even bother. Weird one, good player in my opinion. AN wants wingers, there is one who just got promoted to the premier league, can beat a man and was a good age. It’s starting to get really baffling. Lose tomorrow and pressure on big time. When he did beat the man he invariably went on to lose the ball shortly thereafter
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Post by s7oke on Jan 20, 2023 14:19:37 GMT
I hope the under 21 squad is as good
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 20, 2023 14:22:04 GMT
No doubt about it. We’re an injury away from having Fielding or Simkin in goal. We haven’t got a fit right back. We don’t own a left back that’s to standard. We have one good centre half who is being misused. We don’t own a midfield.We don’t have any wingers the manager likes. And we have no one that can lead the line. Other than that it’s great. bayernoatcake Jul 23, 2022 at 1:48pm via mobile The Toxic Avenger, likelyladgalizmo, and 3 more like this I think the midfield looks a lot stronger.
Past that I’m not convinced. But still plenty of time yet. Which one should we believe? Yeah around that time in pre season I thought Will Smallbone would save us too. Then you get to look at them properly.....
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Post by st3mark on Jan 20, 2023 14:25:15 GMT
Fosu whether you rate him or not was a player who can cover 4 positions and always wanted the ball and to be involved.
He's a massive loss in my opinion.
I can't keep up with how many players we haven't got anymore.
Bursik, Clarke, Fosu, Delap gone with Souttar about to leave. Am I up to date or has anyone else gone?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 20, 2023 14:28:23 GMT
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Post by nott1 on Jan 20, 2023 14:30:31 GMT
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Post by etebojan on Jan 20, 2023 14:30:32 GMT
Powell. signing players
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Post by callas12 on Jan 20, 2023 14:35:16 GMT
Fosu whether you rate him or not was a player who can cover 4 positions and always wanted the ball and to be involved. He's a massive loss in my opinion. I can't keep up with how many players we haven't got anymore. Bursik, Clarke, Fosu, Delap gone with Souttar about to leave. Am I up to date or has anyone else gone? Alot can happen in a short space of time can't it. Decimating the squad so quickly will most likely fracture the already fragile & suffering dressing room morale I expect. Seeing mates/colleagues departing so quickly will send out mixed emotions to them I'm sure. You can imagine em training out on the pitches at Clayton Wood and a member of staff coming out saying Clarky, got Arsenal on the phone they wanna chat to ya. He goes off and get the news that Arsenal are recalling him & selling him & that he starts at Ipswich tomorrow! Quick bye to the lads, pack a bin liner of his footy boots and toiletries & that it, job done regarding his time at SCFC! But that's happened more or less in similar fashion 4 or 5 times this last couple of weeks. With their changing room pegs remaining empty & more depleted with no replacements inbound.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jan 20, 2023 14:39:59 GMT
Fosu basically announced in an image by Rotherham on twitter. Before our own club could even bother. Weird one, good player in my opinion. AN wants wingers, there is one who just got promoted to the premier league, can beat a man and was a good age. It’s starting to get really baffling. Lose tomorrow and pressure on big time. Fosu goneGouranga.
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Post by datguy on Jan 20, 2023 14:44:05 GMT
Learn our lessons from previously and sell Soutts when his stock is high. So sell now. Looking back, should’ve done the same with Tymon, Campbell, Brown etc. Imagine the comments on here if we sold all our better players when they are in form and playing well Take the flack and make the money. £10m+ IF used correctly - tbf we’ve got no hope as fans with the current lot - goes very far in the Championship. Just remembered Tom Edwards. Talk of a Prem team wanting him for considerable money. Genuine interest. £10-12m I think. LOOKING BACK - should’ve sold straight away.
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Post by collo68 on Jan 20, 2023 14:46:14 GMT
Personally I think it’s brilliant what the manager is doing in terms of letting people move on. He doesn’t think they are good enough or has to make room due to money and if it’s broke you have to make changes otherwise it will continue and no one’s happy.
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Post by st3mark on Jan 20, 2023 14:52:40 GMT
Personally I think it’s brilliant what the manager is doing in terms of letting people move on. He doesn’t think they are good enough or has to make room due to money and if it’s broke you have to make changes otherwise it will continue and no one’s happy. Havent they all been recalled? I feel no attachment to any of the squad currently I don't care which ones go. I'd like to have enough to fill tomorrow's match day squad
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 20, 2023 14:56:42 GMT
Learn our lessons from previously and sell Soutts when his stock is high. So sell now. Looking back, should’ve done the same with Tymon, Campbell, Brown etc. Imagine the comments on here if we sold all our better players when they are in form and playing well You should always be willing to sell any player at the peak of their value. People should be working in the background constantly to establish what that is and having a list of targets on an upward curve to replace each and every player on your books, same for coaches and managers CEO's the works. Les Reed did excellent work in that regard when he was DoF at Southampton. Crisis management is the best way to describe our model.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jan 20, 2023 14:57:47 GMT
Fosu whether you rate him or not was a player who can cover 4 positions and always wanted the ball and to be involved. He's a massive loss in my opinion. I can't keep up with how many players we haven't got anymore. Bursik, Clarke, Fosu, Delap gone with Souttar about to leave. Am I up to date or has anyone else gone? Alot can happen in a short space of time can't it. Decimating the squad so quickly will most likely fracture the already fragile & suffering dressing room morale I expect. Seeing mates/colleagues departing so quickly will send out mixed emotions to them I'm sure. You can imagine em training out on the pitches at Clayton Wood and a member of staff coming out saying Clarky, got Arsenal on the phone they wanna chat to ya. He goes off and get the news that Arsenal are recalling him & selling him & that he starts at Ipswich tomorrow! Quick bye to the lads, pack a bin liner of his footy boots and toiletries & that it, job done regarding his time at SCFC! But that's happened more or less in similar fashion 4 or 5 times this last couple of weeks. With their changing room pegs remaining empty & more depleted with no replacements inbound. Yeah it's almost as if all the players that have left have an undying attachment to the club and the rest of the squad that they've known for all of 4 months. As for new signings, let's wait and see heh? Gouranga.
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Post by tony10 on Jan 20, 2023 15:51:07 GMT
Oh what a surprise, Powell injured again Plays a game misses 10 Spend more time in the treatment room than on the pitch
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Post by s7oke on Jan 20, 2023 15:56:34 GMT
Fosu whether you rate him or not was a player who can cover 4 positions and always wanted the ball and to be involved. He's a massive loss in my opinion. I can't keep up with how many players we haven't got anymore. Bursik, Clarke, Fosu, Delap gone with Souttar about to leave. Am I up to date or has anyone else gone? Alot can happen in a short space of time can't it. Decimating the squad so quickly will most likely fracture the already fragile & suffering dressing room morale I expect. Seeing mates/colleagues departing so quickly will send out mixed emotions to them I'm sure. You can imagine em training out on the pitches at Clayton Wood and a member of staff coming out saying Clarky, got Arsenal on the phone they wanna chat to ya. He goes off and get the news that Arsenal are recalling him & selling him & that he starts at Ipswich tomorrow! Quick bye to the lads, pack a bin liner of his footy boots and toiletries & that it, job done regarding his time at SCFC! But that's happened more or less in similar fashion 4 or 5 times this last couple of weeks. With their changing room pegs remaining empty & more depleted with no replacements inbound. Or new arrivals and attitudes may give the squad a boost
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Post by callas12 on Jan 20, 2023 16:05:19 GMT
Alot can happen in a short space of time can't it. Decimating the squad so quickly will most likely fracture the already fragile & suffering dressing room morale I expect. Seeing mates/colleagues departing so quickly will send out mixed emotions to them I'm sure. You can imagine em training out on the pitches at Clayton Wood and a member of staff coming out saying Clarky, got Arsenal on the phone they wanna chat to ya. He goes off and get the news that Arsenal are recalling him & selling him & that he starts at Ipswich tomorrow! Quick bye to the lads, pack a bin liner of his footy boots and toiletries & that it, job done regarding his time at SCFC! But that's happened more or less in similar fashion 4 or 5 times this last couple of weeks. With their changing room pegs remaining empty & more depleted with no replacements inbound. Yeah it's almost as if all the players that have left have an undying attachment to the club and the rest of the squad that they've known for all of 4 months. As for new signings, let's wait and see heh? Gouranga. I do think that in 6mths of working together they can easily create strong friendships & allegiances, especially when they likely see each other almost every day. They spend nights in hotels prior to away fixtures together, eat meals together, not withstanding all the travelling around they do together. & there was the trip to Dubai which would have been team bonding of sorts. Not saying they all get on but when you work in a close knit team environment you invariably spend as much time if not more with your work colleagues than you do your own family. Whilst non apart from Delap have any attachment to the club going forwards, some players always recall loan spells at clubs as the springboard for their careers. Everyone remembers Beckham went out on loan to Preston, Defoe to Bournemouth, Kane to Leyton Orient to name but a few.
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Post by robrigo on Jan 20, 2023 16:09:03 GMT
Now Neil has confirmed there will be signings this January, I’m really looking forward to seeing the type of player he brings in. Hopefully it will be a positive sign on how the future will look.
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Post by callas12 on Jan 20, 2023 16:11:02 GMT
Alot can happen in a short space of time can't it. Decimating the squad so quickly will most likely fracture the already fragile & suffering dressing room morale I expect. Seeing mates/colleagues departing so quickly will send out mixed emotions to them I'm sure. You can imagine em training out on the pitches at Clayton Wood and a member of staff coming out saying Clarky, got Arsenal on the phone they wanna chat to ya. He goes off and get the news that Arsenal are recalling him & selling him & that he starts at Ipswich tomorrow! Quick bye to the lads, pack a bin liner of his footy boots and toiletries & that it, job done regarding his time at SCFC! But that's happened more or less in similar fashion 4 or 5 times this last couple of weeks. With their changing room pegs remaining empty & more depleted with no replacements inbound. Or new arrivals and attitudes may give the squad a boost Indeed it might & most likely will, but they need to be arriving. Register another defeat to Reading tomorrow with no fresh faces being injected into the squad & it'll be another home defeat & another weekend of us nervously looking behind us. We needs wins on the board ASAP to get clear of this mess and for reported reasons, If we leave it until the last minute for new incomings to join & make an impact, its another few weeks of muddling on which we don't want to be doing.
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 20, 2023 16:28:42 GMT
Kilkenny who is the one you would think would have been most likely to have left, is still here, after not figuring for love nor money.
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Post by nott1 on Jan 20, 2023 16:29:41 GMT
Personally I think it’s brilliant what the manager is doing in terms of letting people move on. He doesn’t think they are good enough or has to make room due to money and if it’s broke you have to make changes otherwise it will continue and no one’s happy. Is it him or the clubs not wanting their players being ruined in a shit team/plan? None of them have improved here!
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Post by bgreen13 on Jan 20, 2023 16:37:38 GMT
Personally I think it’s brilliant what the manager is doing in terms of letting people move on. He doesn’t think they are good enough or has to make room due to money and if it’s broke you have to make changes otherwise it will continue and no one’s happy. Is it him or the clubs not wanting their players being ruined in a shit team/plan? None of them have improved here! And definitely don't want their players playing on front of toxic fans every other week.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 20, 2023 16:41:38 GMT
Now Neil has confirmed there will be signings this January, I’m really looking forward to seeing the type of player he brings in. Hopefully it will be a positive sign on how the future will look. Sorted that for you.
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