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Post by deeside2 on Apr 26, 2024 5:10:53 GMT
I'm not on X, what was this all about ?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 26, 2024 6:15:13 GMT
It’s too late now. Reap what you sow and hope you’re not the next victim of a violent attack by a religious nut job. Or a car accident, which is FAR more likely to kill you, but doesn’t seem to be on people’s minds as much. The possibility of Car accidents should be on every driver's ( and cyclists , pedestrians) minds, ( or subconsciously so) every time we are on the roads and probably is. There have been plenty of threads about driving. I remember starting this one about safety. oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/300756/highway-code-safe-driving You are dead right it is important. But it doesn't mean we can't talk about anything else, plus of course there is a difference between " accidents" and deliberate acts.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 26, 2024 6:16:30 GMT
I'm not on X, what was this all about ? You should still be able to view the video, I’m not on it either but can see it.
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Post by foster on Apr 26, 2024 6:18:22 GMT
I'm not on X, what was this all about ?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 26, 2024 6:23:36 GMT
It’s too late now. Reap what you sow and hope you’re not the next victim of a violent attack by a religious nut job. Or a car accident, which is FAR more likely to kill you, but doesn’t seem to be on people’s minds as much. Huh?🤷🏻♂️
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Post by foster on Apr 26, 2024 6:35:34 GMT
Or a car accident, which is FAR more likely to kill you, but doesn’t seem to be on people’s minds as much. Huh?🤷🏻♂️ Can you not see how this relevant comparison makes total sense? And clearly things like safe driving campaigns, drink driving campaigns, stop signs, speed limits, etc. are a figment of the imagination.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 26, 2024 6:37:04 GMT
Can you not see how this relevant comparison makes total sense? And clearly things like safe driving campaigns, drink driving campaigns, stop signs, speed limits, etc. are a figment of the imagination. Ahh got ya😏
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Apr 26, 2024 7:12:59 GMT
It’s too late now. Reap what you sow and hope you’re not the next victim of a violent attack by a religious nut job. Or a car accident, which is FAR more likely to kill you, but doesn’t seem to be on people’s minds as much. The key word there is 'accident'. An attack by a religious nut job or anyone else for that matter is not an accident it is a crime. Surely you can see that a car accident and a violent attack are not in any way comparable.
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Post by serpico on Apr 26, 2024 7:28:06 GMT
If you wish to maintain a welfare state the way it’s configured in the UK then you must control immigration and stop thousands upon thousands of people entering every year, it’s unsustainable and will eventually collapse the welfare state…. Either abolish the welfare state or get serious on immigration/border policies, simple as that!
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 26, 2024 8:08:36 GMT
I see the Irish government are beginning to whinge Since the idea of Rwanda has occurred There’s been a increase of immigration to Ireland
With the uk being just another stop over point
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 26, 2024 8:23:21 GMT
I'm not on X, what was this all about ? That is utterly outrageous, hopefully some sort of public inquiry will now take place. Very brave women.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 26, 2024 8:26:15 GMT
I see the Irish government are beginning to whinge Since the idea of Rwanda has occurred There’s been a increase of immigration to Ireland With the uk being just another stop over point Small boat crossings to the UK have increased, I don't think Rwanda has anything to do with an increase in immigration to Ireland.
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Post by wannabee on Apr 26, 2024 8:28:36 GMT
I see the Irish government are beginning to whinge Since the idea of Rwanda has occurred There’s been a increase of immigration to Ireland With the uk being just another stop over point Yea they need to change the Law to declare England is a safe Country like Albania to send them back
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Post by foster on Apr 26, 2024 8:29:16 GMT
I see the Irish government are beginning to whinge Since the idea of Rwanda has occurred There’s been a increase of immigration to Ireland With the uk being just another stop over point If I were badge, my response to this would be... 'It's more likely because all our hotels are full!'.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 26, 2024 8:56:00 GMT
I see the Irish government are beginning to whinge Since the idea of Rwanda has occurred There’s been a increase of immigration to Ireland With the uk being just another stop over point It’s more likely because all our hotels are full.
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Post by foster on Apr 26, 2024 8:57:22 GMT
I see the Irish government are beginning to whinge Since the idea of Rwanda has occurred There’s been a increase of immigration to Ireland With the uk being just another stop over point It’s more likely because all our hotels are full. Post of the day!
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Post by Davef on Apr 26, 2024 9:11:43 GMT
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Post by gawa on Apr 26, 2024 9:22:26 GMT
A damning indictment on the current state of the uk. They want to go to a richer country with a higher gdp per capita 🤣
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 26, 2024 9:30:14 GMT
I see the Irish government are beginning to whinge Since the idea of Rwanda has occurred There’s been a increase of immigration to Ireland With the uk being just another stop over point It’s more likely because all our hotels are full. That's possibly the most insightful post I've ever read from you Badge. You have gone to another level at last
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 26, 2024 9:35:57 GMT
Or a car accident, which is FAR more likely to kill you, but doesn’t seem to be on people’s minds as much. Ah, well that makes getting stabbed, beheaded or blown up by psycho terrorists ok then. 👍 I just think it’s interesting that so much time gets spent being scared about these things when you are far more likely to die while driving into work.
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Post by wannabee on Apr 26, 2024 9:36:31 GMT
I was amused by the Article saying the Irish Justice Minister was going to meet up with Jimmy Dimley to sort it out, I bet that goes well.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 26, 2024 9:37:33 GMT
Or a car accident, which is FAR more likely to kill you, but doesn’t seem to be on people’s minds as much. The key word there is 'accident'. An attack by a religious nut job or anyone else for that matter is not an accident it is a crime. Surely you can see that a car accident and a violent attack are not in any way comparable. They are comparable in the way that you die after, and that one is far more likely to happen to you than the other.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 26, 2024 9:47:07 GMT
Ah, well that makes getting stabbed, beheaded or blown up by psycho terrorists ok then. 👍 I just think it’s interesting that so much time gets spent being scared about these things when you are far more likely to die while driving into work. We'd all change our minds if it happens to someone you know and care about. Accidents are accidents and as humans we learn to live and deal with that. Some fanatic running around murdering innocent people is not an accident and can be directly attributed to failed govt policy. As I say the second this happens to someone you know you'd change your tune..
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Post by sticky on Apr 26, 2024 11:19:58 GMT
Are we really comparing a car accident to being stabbed🤦🏻♂️ It’s a legitimate concern on a relevant thread
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Post by gawa on Apr 26, 2024 11:30:33 GMT
Won't be long till the palestines start rocking up on our shores.
A gift from Israel to the UK.
Why doesn't "the only democracy in the middle east" and "most moral army in the world" not take in their share?
70k odd applications in UK in 2023. Yet Israel who is next door to these countries had 1,207 in 2022.
All they're doing is creating asylum seekers to come to these shores.
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Post by phileetin on Apr 26, 2024 11:39:49 GMT
judging by the flags in london and elsewhere they're already here .
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Post by andystokey on Apr 26, 2024 12:25:16 GMT
Are we really comparing a car accident to being stabbed🤦🏻♂️ It’s a legitimate concern on a relevant thread Without wading into the immigration debate the word "accident" is misleading in this context and is often talked about as if no blame is present. That's just not true, a drunk driver, a speeding driver in a stolen car on the wrong side of the road and a drug fuelled chase mounting the pavement and killing some schoolkids are all labelled accidents. They all involve breaking the law. There is nothing in law that says an accident is free from blame. It's a terminology the law is trying to redress with terms like incidents and collisions and such.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 26, 2024 12:39:32 GMT
Are we really comparing a car accident to being stabbed🤦🏻♂️ It’s a legitimate concern on a relevant thread Without wading into the immigration debate the word "accident" is misleading in this context and is often talked about as if no blame is present. That's just not true, a drunk driver, a speeding driver in a stolen car on the wrong side of the road and a drug fuelled chase mounting the pavement and killing some schoolkids are all labelled accidents. They all involve breaking the law. There is nothing in law that says an accident is free from blame. It's a terminology the law is trying to redress with terms like incidents and collisions and such. Absolutely true Andy, which is why I think a couple of posts have " accident" in "". Like many things on the Oatcake , it isn't one versus the other ( Hamas/Zionism, benefit cheats/bankers/ tax avoiders/big business, the Guardian/ the Daily Mail), but some posters like to frame it that way either as a diversion or to show moral superiority. imo of course
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 26, 2024 17:21:49 GMT
Are we really comparing a car accident to being stabbed🤦🏻♂️ It’s a legitimate concern on a relevant thread Being struck by lightening is a legitimate concern - however it doesn't happen very often. Is there any evidence (beyond a grainy twitter post) that you are disproportionately likely to be stabbed by an asylum seeker than by someone from the wider population? Because if there is I can't find any. In fact there is a view that asylum seekers are more likely to be victims of crime than perpetrators. www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/asylum-seekers-more-likely-victims-7889093The most likely group of people to either kill you or assualt you are people related to or otherwise known to you. Perhaps therefore we need a thread about the risks of friends and family if concern for being stabbed is the big worry?
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Post by foster on Apr 26, 2024 17:42:25 GMT
Are we really comparing a car accident to being stabbed🤦🏻♂️ It’s a legitimate concern on a relevant thread Being struck by lightening is a legitimate concern - however it doesn't happen very often. Is there any evidence (beyond a grainy twitter post) that you are disproportionately likely to be stabbed by an asylum seeker than by someone from the wider population? Because if there is I can't find any. In fact there is a view that asylum seekers are more likely to be victims of crime than perpetrators. www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/asylum-seekers-more-likely-victims-7889093The most likely group of people to either kill you or assualt you are people related to or otherwise known to you. Perhaps therefore we need a thread about the risks of friends and family if concern for being stabbed is the big worry? In any case, being stabbed to death by a terrorist can be linked to immigration. Which is something that should be properly managed, but isn't. It has no relation to any other potential cause of death.
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