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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 28, 2022 10:51:01 GMT
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Post by flea79 on Oct 28, 2022 10:55:17 GMT
john carew carew, he lives in jail inside the SHU!
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Post by greystokie on Oct 28, 2022 11:08:21 GMT
You could say his time with us was criminal! 🙄
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2022 11:23:00 GMT
Does it really amaze you that a rich person evaded paying their tax?
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Post by scfc75 on Oct 28, 2022 11:33:59 GMT
Does it really amaze you that a rich person evaded paying their tax? Tax evasion, yes. It’s very rare. Tax avoidance is however a lot more widespread.
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Post by devondumpling on Oct 28, 2022 11:35:22 GMT
Does it really amaze you that a rich person evaded paying their tax? and tax authorities will always try (at least) to target sources where their chances of recovering significant sums are good and gain publicity to deter others. So obvious they will targey wealthy footballers amongst others.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 28, 2022 11:41:23 GMT
If rich people paid fair tax, most of the problems we have right now could be solved
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 28, 2022 11:57:11 GMT
If rich people paid fair tax, most of the problems we have right now could be solved According to the economic genius Liz Truss it's the complete opposite - you solve the country's economic ills by getting the rich to pay less tax. It fucks up the economy for everyone else but at least the rich get to ride things out which at the end of the day is all that matters.
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Post by cvillestokie on Oct 28, 2022 11:58:30 GMT
If rich people paid fair tax, most of the problems we have right now could be solved How much tax is “fair tax”?
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Post by iamstokie on Oct 28, 2022 12:52:11 GMT
If rich people paid fair tax, most of the problems we have right now could be solved How much tax is “fair tax”? People would not be saying the rich should be paying more tax if they were rich themselves
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Post by scfc75 on Oct 28, 2022 12:54:31 GMT
If rich people paid fair tax, most of the problems we have right now could be solved How much tax is “fair tax”? ….plus… who are “the rich”? 🤔
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Post by loosestools on Oct 28, 2022 13:07:08 GMT
The Coates family - and they pay their taxes fairly and squarely.
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Post by phill51 on Oct 28, 2022 13:37:48 GMT
How much tax is “fair tax”? People would not be saying the rich should be paying more tax if they were rich themselves Don't agree. There are many many people who accept that it is fair and right that they should pay the correct tax in order to provide the support for those that need it. I am very grateful for the support I have received from the NHS (as are many others) and am very content to pay my taxes to enable others to enjoy the benefits I have received. This would still be true if I were considerably better off than I am.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 28, 2022 17:04:58 GMT
How much tax is “fair tax”? ….plus… who are “the rich”? 🤔 The rich are people who are wealthy enough to take specialist advice and make arrangements to pay less tax. Which is most of the parliamentary conservative party and a lot of people in this country. I should know, regrettably I worked at a firm that helped people do this, and saw first hand that trickle down economics is a myth
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Post by onepara on Oct 28, 2022 18:18:05 GMT
….plus… who are “the rich”? 🤔 The rich are people who are wealthy enough to take specialist advice and make arrangements to pay less tax. Which is most of the parliamentary conservative party and a lot of people in this country. I should know, regrettably I worked at a firm that helped people do this, and saw first hand that trickle down economics is a myth No rich people in the Labour party then, who avoid paying their fair share of taxes?
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 28, 2022 19:02:02 GMT
The rich are people who are wealthy enough to take specialist advice and make arrangements to pay less tax. Which is most of the parliamentary conservative party and a lot of people in this country. I should know, regrettably I worked at a firm that helped people do this, and saw first hand that trickle down economics is a myth No rich people in the Labour party then, who avoid paying their fair share of taxes? Nowhere near as many. So your one liner lacks relevance.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 28, 2022 21:07:11 GMT
The rich are people who are wealthy enough to take specialist advice and make arrangements to pay less tax. Which is most of the parliamentary conservative party and a lot of people in this country. I should know, regrettably I worked at a firm that helped people do this, and saw first hand that trickle down economics is a myth No rich people in the Labour party then, who avoid paying their fair share of taxes? There'll be some I'm sure. It's a right wing libertarian type philosophy though isn't it, hoarding wealth, so less of it in labour I'd have thought. I don't support any of these parties mate. The system is a stitch up. Working people like us are the victims, rich people the winners
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Post by matelot1996 on Oct 28, 2022 22:59:20 GMT
If rich people paid fair tax, most of the problems we have right now could be solved Like it or not. The rich do pay most of the Tax in this Country. Taxing the rich at a higher percentage than the poor forces the rich to move themselves or their money out of the U.K. It really is not as simple as the Labour Party would have you believe.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 28, 2022 23:15:19 GMT
If rich people paid fair tax, most of the problems we have right now could be solved Like it or not. The rich do pay most of the Tax in this Country. Taxing the rich at a higher percentage than the poor forces the rich to move themselves or their money out of the U.K. It really is not as simple as the Labour Party would have you believe. I've spent years acting for wealthy clients. Nearly all the wealth I've seen is hereditary, not worked for, and put in trusts and untaxed and hoarded away and wasted, not put back in to society, into Enterprise, into work. Rich people should pay more tax, because there's horrifying inequality in our country and millions of people now living in squalor with absolutely no hope. Every person should always think about others, not about themselves and they should also think 'how much money do I really need', instead of hoarding and wasting their wealth.
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Post by cvillestokie on Oct 29, 2022 2:09:40 GMT
Like it or not. The rich do pay most of the Tax in this Country. Taxing the rich at a higher percentage than the poor forces the rich to move themselves or their money out of the U.K. It really is not as simple as the Labour Party would have you believe. I've spent years acting for wealthy clients. Nearly all the wealth I've seen is hereditary, not worked for, and put in trusts and untaxed and hoarded away and wasted, not put back in to society, into Enterprise, into work. Rich people should pay more tax, because there's horrifying inequality in our country and millions of people now living in squalor with absolutely no hope. Every person should always think about others, not about themselves and they should also think 'how much money do I really need', instead of hoarding and wasting their wealth. NL is also an incredibly homogenous society with about 1/4 the people.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 29, 2022 11:50:19 GMT
How much tax is “fair tax”? People would not be saying the rich should be paying more tax if they were rich themselves I would, because I'd know I'd still be way better off than most people. I think I should pay more tax now, along with everyone else, in a way that reflects ability to pay, to fix the NHS, schools, energy, transport, the environment etc. But then I appreciate that I live in a society and I'm just not that selfish generally, which is precisely what wealthy tax dodgers are. No ifs no buts, selfish. Seems pretty obvious to me.
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Post by matelot1996 on Oct 29, 2022 12:12:28 GMT
Like it or not. The rich do pay most of the Tax in this Country. Taxing the rich at a higher percentage than the poor forces the rich to move themselves or their money out of the U.K. It really is not as simple as the Labour Party would have you believe. I've spent years acting for wealthy clients. Nearly all the wealth I've seen is hereditary, not worked for, and put in trusts and untaxed and hoarded away and wasted, not put back in to society, into Enterprise, into work. Rich people should pay more tax, because there's horrifying inequality in our country and millions of people now living in squalor with absolutely no hope. Every person should always think about others, not about themselves and they should also think 'how much money do I really need', instead of hoarding and wasting their wealth. The world is not fair. I get it. I think your ideal situation as you have so eloquently explained, unfortunately, is bordering on communism. History (and the future) will see no change in Rich people wanting to hold onto their wealth. If we had excessive taxation of the high earners then you kill aspiration. I think there is more than sufficient taxation in the U.K. How it is managed and spent is an abomination.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Oct 29, 2022 13:03:56 GMT
….plus… who are “the rich”? 🤔 The rich are people who are wealthy enough to take specialist advice and make arrangements to pay less tax. Which is most of the parliamentary conservative party and a lot of people in this country. I should know, regrettably I worked at a firm that helped people do this, and saw first hand that trickle down economics is a myth A question Glasgow. Someone like a footballer might be very wealthy and and also not that bright. He earns his money over say 15 years in 6 different countries. He will have multiple income sources - club wages, sponsorships, TV appearances, endorsements, international expenses etc etc. In otherwords his tax affairs are complex and he almost certainly doesn't know what his tax liabilities are or where or what he should or shouldn't declare - if he even knows what he's earned. He will no doubt employ an accountant or agent but will have no idea whether what he is told is correct or not. If the advice is duff who is liable - the footballer or the agent?
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