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Post by potter25 on Oct 15, 2022 20:38:20 GMT
Quite often, seasons can change in one moment
The game before Watford had put 4 past us, and for big parts of that Burnley game we hadn’t been that good but we dug in and never gave in and came away with a point and nearly won it
Since that goal, it feels like we have been on an upward trajectory and everything suddenly feels positive
Hopefully come the end of a successful we will look at that goal as where it changed
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Post by teenagefanclub on Oct 15, 2022 20:45:35 GMT
He could be our new Souleymane Oulare
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Post by callas12 on Oct 15, 2022 20:54:38 GMT
I actually thought that Watford performance and result could of been our current day Forest 0-6 drubbing in 2003!
But as you say, that Clarke goal could well have been the jolt & catalyst that spurred the player's and fans forward together with new found belief and confidence.
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Post by potter25 on Oct 15, 2022 20:58:34 GMT
He could be our new Souleymane Oulare Most famous backside in stoke 😉 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 15, 2022 20:58:40 GMT
The Burnley game was in some ways a much better performance than today really. They should finish in the top 2 and we did more than enough to get a well deserved point. We battled. We countered. And carried on.
Today was a totally game. We had more of the ball (or it seemed like we did) and we totally dominated. The first half they had the much better chances and we probably didn’t score the goals we deserved today.
But we won in a different way. Total dominance.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 15, 2022 21:02:18 GMT
The Burnley game was in some ways a much better performance than today really. They should finish in the top 2 and we did more than enough to get a well deserved point. We battled. We countered. And carried on. Today was a totally game. We had more of the ball (or it seemed like we did) and we totally dominated. The first half they had the much better chances and we probably didn’t score the goals we deserved today. But we won in a different way. Total dominance. Which neatly exemplifies exactly what AN was saying in his presser about needing to find different ways to get results in this division. Maybe he knows a thing or two… 🤞🏼 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 15, 2022 21:14:05 GMT
The Burnley game was in some ways a much better performance than today really. They should finish in the top 2 and we did more than enough to get a well deserved point. We battled. We countered. And carried on. Today was a totally game. We had more of the ball (or it seemed like we did) and we totally dominated. The first half they had the much better chances and we probably didn’t score the goals we deserved today. But we won in a different way. Total dominance. Which neatly exemplifies exactly what AN was saying in his presser about needing to find different ways to get results in this division. Maybe he knows a thing or two… 🤞🏼 I’ve always liked him. There was a thread on here a couple of years ago now saying he was shit because of his Preston days. Ignoring how well he did with them for so long. Its why you have to look past that for managers. They all eventually fail. It’s the job. He’s a damn good manager and let’s hope he’s a damn good manager here past the average two years it seems the majority of them go stale after. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2022 22:04:07 GMT
Quite often, seasons can change in one moment The game before Watford had put 4 past us, and for big parts of that Burnley game we hadn’t been that good but we dug in and never gave in and came away with a point and nearly won it Since that goal, it feels like we have been on an upward trajectory and everything suddenly feels positive Hopefully come the end of a successful we will look at that goal as where it changed Someone mentioned the hiding at Forest which was a kick up the arse under Pulis and that may have been ours. I think Rotherham be an interesting marker now. Carry on this run v a decent enough, hard working side. Keep this momentum going |
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Post by potter25 on Oct 15, 2022 22:10:20 GMT
Quite often, seasons can change in one moment The game before Watford had put 4 past us, and for big parts of that Burnley game we hadn’t been that good but we dug in and never gave in and came away with a point and nearly won it Since that goal, it feels like we have been on an upward trajectory and everything suddenly feels positive Hopefully come the end of a successful we will look at that goal as where it changed Someone mentioned the hiding at Forest which was a kick up the arse under Pulis and that may have been ours. I think Rotherham be an interesting marker now. Carry on this run v a decent enough, hard working side. Keep this momentum going Be a tough game Rotherham Change of manager doesn’t seem to have affected them |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2022 22:18:11 GMT
Someone mentioned the hiding at Forest which was a kick up the arse under Pulis and that may have been ours. I think Rotherham be an interesting marker now. Carry on this run v a decent enough, hard working side. Keep this momentum going Be a tough game Rotherham Change of manager doesn’t seem to have affected them I liked Warne. Was my hope for our manager at the time . We have this habit of being unable to just push into that top few when in distance if them but this division is made up of sides like that. |
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 16, 2022 7:04:39 GMT
If we remain unbeaten over the next two. I feel we have turned a corner. It will be a real marker for our season. 2 very big games for different reasons then the Burnley, Watford and Sheff Utd but big games none the less
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Post by mattador78 on Oct 16, 2022 7:43:51 GMT
IMHO up until they scored the 2nd Watford weren’t anything special then we folded. The mental performance since then has been on par with the playing. As you point out the Burnley point is pivotal in that
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 16, 2022 8:21:27 GMT
I think it’s more moving to a back 4 isn’t it?
A few of us on here (myself included) have been banging on about it for months.
I don’t understand why we didn’t do it sooner.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2022 8:57:19 GMT
The Burnley game was in some ways a much better performance than today really. They should finish in the top 2 and we did more than enough to get a well deserved point. We battled. We countered. And carried on. Today was a totally game. We had more of the ball (or it seemed like we did) and we totally dominated. The first half they had the much better chances and we probably didn’t score the goals we deserved today. But we won in a different way. Total dominance. Which neatly exemplifies exactly what AN was saying in his presser about needing to find different ways to get results in this division. Maybe he knows a thing or two… 🤞🏼 I think folks talk a lot about formations and fitness (which, obviously, are important), but I think one of the most notable differences AN has brought in is standards and expectations. I can only go from his pressers and match interviews, but the 'excuses' seem to have stopped. He's looked frustrated at the way people ask him about 'positive reactions' and 'keeping going in matches', and said that that should be normal and to be expected; it's not special. The way he said we simply 'have to deal with it and get on with it' re. the injury list. The way he said he was shocked at the lack of professional pride shown after the second goal against Watford, rather than deflect and say it was about us 'chasing the game' or other rhetoric or platitude. He stopped looking for reasons why things didn't go his way and pushed it back to the players - be better, do your basics, do your jobs, and have higher expectations of yourselves. I might be seeing something that isn't there and fallen into some pop psychology nonsense, but it's something I've noticed since his arrival, and it seems to be filtering down to the team. |
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 16, 2022 9:12:14 GMT
He could be our new Souleymane Oulare Most famous backside in stoke 😉 I'd say some posters on here challenge for that title. |
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 16, 2022 9:13:12 GMT
Which neatly exemplifies exactly what AN was saying in his presser about needing to find different ways to get results in this division. Maybe he knows a thing or two… 🤞🏼 I think folks talk a lot about formations and fitness (which, obviously, are important), but I think one of the most notable differences AN has brought in is standards and expectations. I can only go from his pressers and match interviews, but the 'excuses' seem to have stopped. He's looked frustrated at the way people ask him about 'positive reactions' and 'keeping going in matches', and said that that should be normal and to be expected; it's not special. The way he said we simply 'have to deal with it and get on with it' re. the injury list. The way he said he was shocked at the lack of professional pride shown after the second goal against Watford, rather than deflect and say it was about us 'chasing the game' or other rhetoric or platitude. He stopped looking for reasons why things didn't go his way and pushed it back to the players - be better, do your basics, do your jobs, and have higher expectations of yourselves. I might be seeing something that isn't there and fallen into some pop psychology nonsense, but it's something I've noticed since his arrival, and it seems to be filtering down to the team. Plus he looks a nasty Scottish bastard. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2022 9:14:02 GMT
I think folks talk a lot about formations and fitness (which, obviously, are important), but I think one of the most notable differences AN has brought in is standards and expectations. I can only go from his pressers and match interviews, but the 'excuses' seem to have stopped. He's looked frustrated at the way people ask him about 'positive reactions' and 'keeping going in matches', and said that that should be normal and to be expected; it's not special. The way he said we simply 'have to deal with it and get on with it' re. the injury list. The way he said he was shocked at the lack of professional pride shown after the second goal against Watford, rather than deflect and say it was about us 'chasing the game' or other rhetoric or platitude. He stopped looking for reasons why things didn't go his way and pushed it back to the players - be better, do your basics, do your jobs, and have higher expectations of yourselves. I might be seeing something that isn't there and fallen into some pop psychology nonsense, but it's something I've noticed since his arrival, and it seems to be filtering down to the team. Plus he looks a nasty Scottish bastard. Always helps 😁 |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Oct 16, 2022 10:05:23 GMT
Quite often, seasons can change in one moment The game before Watford had put 4 past us, and for big parts of that Burnley game we hadn’t been that good but we dug in and never gave in and came away with a point and nearly won it Since that goal, it feels like we have been on an upward trajectory and everything suddenly feels positive Hopefully come the end of a successful we will look at that goal as where it changed Someone mentioned the hiding at Forest which was a kick up the arse under Pulis and that may have been ours. I think Rotherham be an interesting marker now. Carry on this run v a decent enough, hard working side. Keep this momentum going Yep, the Rotherham game is jus5 the sort of game where we traditionally mess up…going into it on a run o form, a so called lesser team, expecting to win….it will tell us a lot as to where we are at. That said, things are looking a whole lot rosier than they were 2 weeks today |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 16, 2022 10:08:33 GMT
Whilst I agree the Clarke equaliser was important I’d say the collapse at 2-0 against Watford will be seen as the pivotal point of our season.I’d imagine Neil read the riot act after that
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