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Post by gingerninja on Sept 4, 2022 18:03:19 GMT
I know MON bought a lot with him, plus he inherited a few, but I really think we need a clean sweep and fresh innovative ideas brought in. I know Alex Neil is very hands on, but I am not convinced with Rory as a coach.. I assume Martin Canning has joined, though no official confirmation?. I wonder in time if Alex Neil will change things around?.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 4, 2022 18:05:01 GMT
I know MON bought a lot with him, plus he inherited a few, but I really think we need a clean sweep and fresh innovative ideas brought in. I know Alex Neil is very hands on, but I am not convinced with Rory as a coach.. I assume Martin Canning has joined, though no official confirmation?. I wonder in time if Alex Neil will change things around?. Canning is here. We have got to give them time.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Sept 4, 2022 18:06:55 GMT
I know MON bought a lot with him, plus he inherited a few, but I really think we need a clean sweep and fresh innovative ideas brought in. I know Alex Neil is very hands on, but I am not convinced with Rory as a coach.. I assume Martin Canning has joined, though no official confirmation?. I wonder in time if Alex Neil will change things around?. I'm sure he will.. I really don't think he's impressed with how our players were prepared in pre season. The coaches had a big part to play in this, it wasn't just down to MON. Expect changes in coming months.
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Post by theoptimist on Sept 4, 2022 18:08:11 GMT
Suspect we're stuck with Rory for a while as it might unsettle Liam to dispense with his services.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 4, 2022 18:08:18 GMT
I'm sure Neil will let the board know exactly what he wants.
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Post by iglugluk on Sept 4, 2022 18:09:00 GMT
Hopefully they can keep us in the league. After today I cannot help but feel we need to be concerned
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 4, 2022 18:11:27 GMT
I know MON bought a lot with him, plus he inherited a few, but I really think we need a clean sweep and fresh innovative ideas brought in. I know Alex Neil is very hands on, but I am not convinced with Rory as a coach.. I assume Martin Canning has joined, though no official confirmation?. I wonder in time if Alex Neil will change things around?. What about the tea lady as well🙄FFS your threads get worse
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 4, 2022 18:16:01 GMT
He’s been here a bastard week 😂😂
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 4, 2022 18:30:41 GMT
Rory is a legend, always will be, but he has served under as a coach, 3 managers, who have for whatever reason failed. Surely some of that malaise is carried over from regime to regime?.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Sept 4, 2022 18:31:44 GMT
Hopefully they can keep us in the league. After today I cannot help but feel we need to be concerned Hopefully be ok I don't think we're even behind the curve in terms of the results of the corresponding matches last season. Concerned by how we're playing but I'll start worrying if we start losing loads of games against teams we took points off last season. So far we're either on par or a point in front depending on which relegated team you pair Sunderland with. Team Venue 21/22 22/23 Millwall A L L Blackpool H L W Hudders A D L Middles H L D Sund H L Blackburn A W W Swansea H W D Reading A L L
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 4, 2022 18:32:37 GMT
Rory is a legend, always will be, but he has served under as a coach, 3 managers, who have for whatever reason failed. Surely some of that malaise is carried over from regime to regime?. So it’s all Rory’s fault then🙄You really are clueless
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 4, 2022 18:33:57 GMT
I know MON bought a lot with him, plus he inherited a few, but I really think we need a clean sweep and fresh innovative ideas brought in. I know Alex Neil is very hands on, but I am not convinced with Rory as a coach.. I assume Martin Canning has joined, though no official confirmation?. I wonder in time if Alex Neil will change things around?. You aren’t “convinced with Rory as coach”. An insightful opinion based upon your personal experience within the clubs coaching structure and your coaching badges…..obviously?
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Post by theoptimist on Sept 4, 2022 18:34:53 GMT
Rory is a legend, always will be, but he has served under as a coach, 3 managers, who have for whatever reason failed. Surely some of that malaise is carried over from regime to regime?. So it’s all Rory’s fault then🙄You really are clueless No. You can't read. He said SOME. That is not the same as all is it?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 4, 2022 18:36:02 GMT
So it’s all Rory’s fault then🙄You really are clueless No. You can't read. He said SOME. That is not the same as all is it? He’s wrong anyway because it’s 4 managers
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Post by iamstokie on Sept 4, 2022 18:36:39 GMT
He’s been here a bastard week 😂😂 How ppl can’t see this is beyond me , he’s left with MoN’s shit show of a transfer window ( players that don’t suit a 4 or a 5 at the back ) , injuries as we have no cover because MoN didn’t seem we need it 🤦♂️, the mess we’re in is down to MoN , and the board for not acting sooner
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Post by gawa on Sept 4, 2022 18:39:18 GMT
I know MON bought a lot with him, plus he inherited a few, but I really think we need a clean sweep and fresh innovative ideas brought in. I know Alex Neil is very hands on, but I am not convinced with Rory as a coach.. I assume Martin Canning has joined, though no official confirmation?. I wonder in time if Alex Neil will change things around?. What about the tea lady as well🙄FFS your threads get worse Well he can hardly blame the players after this post. Especially now we have our extra defensive addition: I totally agree, one more defensive addition and with Souttar & Powell to return, top 6 should be a minimum..
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 4, 2022 18:41:55 GMT
He’s been here a bastard week 😂😂 How ppl can’t see this is beyond me , he’s left with MoN’s shit show of a transfer window ( players that don’t suit a 4 or a 5 at the back ) , injuries as we have no cover because MoN didn’t seem we need it 🤦♂️, the mess we’re in is down to MoN , and the board for not acting sooner The board are quite frankly a disgrace.
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Post by iamstokie on Sept 4, 2022 18:43:14 GMT
How ppl can’t see this is beyond me , he’s left with MoN’s shit show of a transfer window ( players that don’t suit a 4 or a 5 at the back ) , injuries as we have no cover because MoN didn’t seem we need it 🤦♂️, the mess we’re in is down to MoN , and the board for not acting sooner The board are quite frankly a disgrace. I wouldn’t go that far as I thank them for 10 years in the prem which I never thought I’d see in my life time but I get where you’re coming from
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Post by iglugluk on Sept 4, 2022 19:44:24 GMT
The board are quite frankly a disgrace. I wouldn’t go that far as I thank them for 10 years in the prem which I never thought I’d see in my life time but I get where you’re coming from Agreed.. the way they've frittered away our success during those years is bordering on criminal though, it has to be said. Their lack of foresight is genuinely staggering given how the family made their recent money. We had every reason to believe that a return to the Premiership was entirely possible, even very likely but their obsession with grinding managers and sticking with a broken approach was a hugely mistaken philosophy, as far as I'm concerned. I am still grateful for their ongoing commitment, however, strange as that may sound.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 4, 2022 19:52:49 GMT
The board are quite frankly a disgrace. I wouldn’t go that far as I thank them for 10 years in the prem which I never thought I’d see in my life time but I get where you’re coming from In recent times they have been a disgrace which is why we are in the shit
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Post by Biblical on Sept 4, 2022 20:03:05 GMT
He’s been here a bastard week 😂😂 This is worryingly going over too many fans heads.
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Post by stokiejoe on Sept 4, 2022 20:09:23 GMT
I'm happy that Neil has seen what most of us knew, that the players are unfit and seem at times to be playing that kids game of freeze, where everyone has to stand still
Watching Reading, who I don't particularly rate, the difference shone through. They were mobile, put together some excellent passes and counter attacked at speed.
The contrast couldn't have been greater. Alex Neil has got a hard task ahead of him, all should have been addressed in pre-season. Difficult to do with so many matches needing to be played. For once the international break may help us
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 4, 2022 20:42:31 GMT
The board are quite frankly a disgrace. I wouldn’t go that far as I thank them for 10 years in the prem which I never thought I’d see in my life time but I get where you’re coming from Im reluctant to be too critical of the board given all the good they have done but i will never understand why they have given MON the whole summer and transfer window to create the most inbalanced squad in the league before replacing him a month into the season. Following the back end of last season it was so obvious what was going to happen this season; if they were that set in Neil they should have snared him straight after Sunderlands promotion. Failing that They shoukd have appointed someone else who woukd have had the summer to rectify the many problems in the current squad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2022 20:46:21 GMT
It's not the fault of coaching staff.
What we need to do is look at how we identify and sign players. Because apart from baker every signing under o'neill was garbage
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Post by iglugluk on Sept 5, 2022 11:11:31 GMT
It's not the fault of coaching staff. What we need to do is look at how we identify and sign players. Because apart from baker every signing under o'neill was garbage Laurent looks to be potentially good.
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Post by Royal Donut on Sept 5, 2022 11:56:48 GMT
It's not the fault of coaching staff. What we need to do is look at how we identify and sign players. Because apart from baker every signing under o'neill was garbage I think we have a good few players,it definitely helps playing in the right positions, the right formation with the players you have, proper coaching and some sort a fitness. What has gone on in the training ground is beyond me, 20,000 + fans every week could see the problems.
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