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Post by Linx on Aug 29, 2022 14:58:49 GMT
Two other reasons for long term grudges against Sunderland: 1. They nicked our stripes. Yep. Back in 1890, when we were not re-elected to the football league, Sunderland replaced us. When we were promoted back into the league in 1891, we were not allowed to play in red and white stripes, because they were the colours used by Sunderland, and the FA rules at the time did not allow replication of kit designs. We had to play in burgundy shirts with white shorts until the FA relaxed its rules. 2. They tried to kidnap Sir Stan. Yep. 1946/47 season, before the Sunderland vs Stoke game, a bunch of local students decided to kidnap and hold to ransom Stanley Matthews as a rag week stunt. Because they didn’t know what the most famous footballer in the world looked like, they kidnapped Neil Franklin by mistake. Although Franklin managed to join up with the team just before the game, he did miss the pre-match training. We still won 1-0, our first victory at Roker Park. So don’t take any more shit from disgruntled Mackems.  |
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 29, 2022 15:03:07 GMT
I wasn’t enamoured with them when Higgy swanned off up there
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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 29, 2022 15:11:43 GMT
They nabbed Durban off us aswell
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Post by blackpoolred on Aug 29, 2022 15:26:44 GMT
The quitter went as a number.02 - and was a big insult to Stoke at that time. Given the size of Sunderland and where both teams are at the moment - then this is a very strange one and if I was a Sunderland fan I would not be happy with the owners, also must be a big insult and slap in the face to them and their fans. Not really sure what all the fuss is about personally, out of all the dour Brits we had a choice from then, I suppose, he was probably the best we could hope for. At least it shows our owners went and got their choice and showed a bit of urgency and ambition. Wonder what was said at the Stoke - Sunderland game though - seems strange we bagged him just after that game  |
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 29, 2022 17:23:23 GMT
Chris Maskery also broke his leg which ended his career against Sunderland.
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Post by milton58 on Aug 29, 2022 17:44:03 GMT
They use to be our feeder club
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 29, 2022 19:18:05 GMT
They successfully annexed Bucknall, Bentilee and Eaton Park.
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Post by Northy on Aug 29, 2022 19:18:56 GMT
They broke Rorys leg on his home debut for us.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Aug 29, 2022 20:19:04 GMT
They sold us Danny Collins.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 29, 2022 20:24:52 GMT
Don’t forget Denis Smith had a successful 31/2 seasons as manager getting them promoted from Div 3 to Div 1. Although the circumstances of their promotion to Div 1 were rather bizarre. Swindon had beaten Sunderland in the play off final but were immediately relegated back before the season started due to financial irregularities and Sunderland took their place.
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Post by robscfc on Aug 29, 2022 20:33:59 GMT
Don’t forget Denis Smith had a successful 31/2 seasons as manager getting them promoted from Div 3 to Div 1. Although the circumstances of their promotion to Div 1 were rather bizarre. Swindon had beaten Sunderland in the play off final but were immediately relegated back before the season started due to financial irregularities and Sunderland took their place. 31 and a half seasons, impressive! |
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Post by stokefc on Aug 29, 2022 20:45:11 GMT
Don’t forget Denis Smith had a successful 31/2 seasons as manager getting them promoted from Div 3 to Div 1. Although the circumstances of their promotion to Div 1 were rather bizarre. Swindon had beaten Sunderland in the play off final but were immediately relegated back before the season started due to financial irregularities and Sunderland took their place. 31 and a half seasons, impressive! Well he has managed over a thousand games so Nige keeps telling us so it's possible |
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 29, 2022 20:49:23 GMT
One thing which really, really gets me is the inference by some Sunderland fans that Stoke is a dump.
Now. Don’t get me wrong. Stoke is not the most salubrious location.
But.
Sunderland? It’s hardly Monte Fucking Carlo.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 0:36:20 GMT
They broke Delap’s leg.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 1:39:20 GMT
One thing which really, really gets me is the inference by some Sunderland fans that Stoke is a dump. Now. Don’t get me wrong. Stoke is not the most salubrious location. But. Sunderland? It’s hardly Monte Fucking Carlo. I wish two places struggling wouldn't attack each other for how 'nice' they are... |
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 30, 2022 3:50:48 GMT
Kevin Phillips was a bit crap as coach for us… the list goes on and on
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 3:55:15 GMT
The quitter went as a number.02 - and was a big insult to Stoke at that time. Given the size of Sunderland and where both teams are at the moment - then this is a very strange one and if I was a Sunderland fan I would not be happy with the owners, also must be a big insult and slap in the face to them and their fans. Not really sure what all the fuss is about personally, out of all the dour Brits we had a choice from then, I suppose, he was probably the best we could hope for. At least it shows our owners went and got their choice and showed a bit of urgency and ambition. Wonder what was said at the Stoke - Sunderland game though - seems strange we bagged him just after that game He'd spoken about managing England, yep he was that arrogant and guess working with Wilkinson was a foot on that ladder. He still loves an interview and talks himself up when he wins a game and how against the odds it was etc. I didn't care at all when he left. Is ok being arrogant if you have something to back it up....he doesn't and never did. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 30, 2022 4:15:41 GMT
The quitter went as a number.02 - and was a big insult to Stoke at that time. Given the size of Sunderland and where both teams are at the moment - then this is a very strange one and if I was a Sunderland fan I would not be happy with the owners, also must be a big insult and slap in the face to them and their fans. Not really sure what all the fuss is about personally, out of all the dour Brits we had a choice from then, I suppose, he was probably the best we could hope for. At least it shows our owners went and got their choice and showed a bit of urgency and ambition. Wonder what was said at the Stoke - Sunderland game though - seems strange we bagged him just after that game He'd spoken about managing England, yep he was that arrogant and guess working with Wilkinson was a foot on that ladder. He still loves an interview and talks himself up when he wins a game and how against the odds it was etc. I didn't care at all when he left. Is ok being arrogant if you have something to back it up....he doesn't and never did. His career had been on a steady upwards trajectory. Then he took a demotion* to get to the Premier league and never really recovered. * premier league or not it was demotion. Assistanting is a very different job to managing |
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Post by werrington on Aug 30, 2022 5:26:46 GMT
They use to be our feeder club They still appear to be though 👍 “Our Feeder Club” should be our new name for them and used whenever they are mentioned on here rather than Sunderland 😊 |
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Post by pretzel on Aug 30, 2022 5:31:03 GMT
We've lost more league games to Sunderland than any other club.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 30, 2022 6:23:02 GMT
Don’t forget Denis Smith had a successful 31/2 seasons as manager getting them promoted from Div 3 to Div 1. Although the circumstances of their promotion to Div 1 were rather bizarre. Swindon had beaten Sunderland in the play off final but were immediately relegated back before the season started due to financial irregularities and Sunderland took their place. 31 and a half seasons, impressive! Sorry where do you see 31 and a half? It’s 3 1/2 as in 3.5. Should have gone to Specsavers  Denis managed almost 1200 games with 6 clubs with 39% win rate according to Wikipedia. |
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 30, 2022 7:21:19 GMT
Two other reasons for long term grudges against Sunderland: 1. They nicked our stripes. Yep. Back in 1890, when we were not re-elected to the football league, Sunderland replaced us. When we were promoted back into the league in 1891, we were not allowed to play in red and white stripes, because they were the colours used by Sunderland, and the FA rules at the time did not allow replication of kit designs. We had to play in burgundy shirts with white shorts until the FA relaxed its rules. 2. They tried to kidnap Sir Stan. Yep. 1946/47 season, before the Sunderland vs Stoke game, a bunch of local students decided to kidnap and hold to ransom Stanley Matthews as a rag week stunt. Because they didn’t know what the most famous footballer in the world looked like, they kidnapped Neil Franklin by mistake. Although Franklin managed to join up with the team just before the game, he did miss the pre-match training. We still won 1-0, our first victory at Roker Park. So don’t take any more shit from disgruntled Mackems. Don’t forget the time they failed to turn up for an important game in early 1979 saying their bus couldn’t get through the Pennines due to inclement weather but, somehow, their supporters made it to the ground ok. Nowt to do with them being concerned about suspensions or injuries in their squad. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 30, 2022 7:48:14 GMT
Kevin Phillips was a bit crap as coach for us… the list goes on and on And he pushed for Afobe instead of Gayle. |
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 30, 2022 8:58:05 GMT
One thing which really, really gets me is the inference by some Sunderland fans that Stoke is a dump. Now. Don’t get me wrong. Stoke is not the most salubrious location. But. Sunderland? It’s hardly Monte Fucking Carlo. and whats that got to do with anything anyway, Neil lives in Cheshire and will still do so. I don't think he will spending much time hanging around the town centre tbh |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 30, 2022 9:14:07 GMT
They gave us the roads!!! 🤷🏼♂️
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