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Post by wazbagsbro on Aug 21, 2022 15:40:36 GMT
"You can only get your fans on your side if you show your intent to win the game."I've never liked Eddie Howe but that is exactly the issue at Stoke at the minute. O'Neill has managed Ireland who were thankful not to loose. They were not only very successful at it, got a lot of plaudits from it, Mon got the Stoke City managers job from those tactics. However we are one of the biggest and richest club's in this division and the chairman/ board need to recognise the difference between the two. Unless the thinking is further forward and that's the plan for the premier league going forward. I honestly don't think any team can get promoted without the fans being on side. Something has to give.
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 21, 2022 16:05:58 GMT
We're not even aiming for the top two,
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Post by theonlooker on Aug 21, 2022 16:07:50 GMT
O'Neill has managed Ireland who were thankful not to loose. They were not only very successful at it, got a lot of plaudits from it, Mon got the Stoke City managers job from those tactics. So he got the job here by playing negative tactics in his last job? Interesting. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 21, 2022 16:08:06 GMT
We're not even aiming for the top two, Even the the two young Bristol City lads interviewed at the end of the Cardiff game earlier said their aim is automatic promotion. Says it all about our ambitions and the managers pig headedness |
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Post by wazbagsbro on Aug 21, 2022 16:17:55 GMT
O'Neill has managed Ireland who were thankful not to loose. They were not only very successful at it, got a lot of plaudits from it, Mon got the Stoke City managers job from those tactics. So he got the job here by playing negative tactics in his last job? Interesting. I'm saying he was seen as very successful, but that isn't the success we need. If he was managing Vale in the championship he would be a legend for not getting relegated year on year. It's just my opinion |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 21, 2022 16:21:26 GMT
O'Neill has managed Ireland who were thankful not to loose. They were not only very successful at it, got a lot of plaudits from it, Mon got the Stoke City managers job from those tactics. So he got the job here by playing negative tactics in his last job? Interesting. Interesting but true. We've actively sought out that type of manager for most of the forty odd years I've been a supporter. It's served us well. NOT! |
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Post by telfordstokie on Aug 21, 2022 16:39:44 GMT
Steve Cooper said when he went to Forest one of his first jobs was to create a big club mentality where winning was the expectation rather than the hope. Miles away from our excuse-driven approach.
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Post by questionable on Aug 21, 2022 16:40:43 GMT
We're not even aiming for the top two, Bottom two and I’d believe him |
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Aug 21, 2022 16:53:04 GMT
We're not even aiming for the top two, Even the the two young Bristol City lads interviewed at the end of the Cardiff game earlier said their aim is automatic promotion. Says it all about our ambitions and the managers pig headedness You do realise that this guy's managed Brechin City? Have some respect. 👀  |
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 21, 2022 16:57:24 GMT
O'Neill has managed Ireland who were thankful not to loose. They were not only very successful at it, got a lot of plaudits from it, Mon got the Stoke City managers job from those tactics. So he got the job here by playing negative tactics in his last job? Interesting. Interesting to you in what way?  |
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Post by thewonderstuff on Aug 21, 2022 16:58:50 GMT
"You can only get your fans on your side if you show your intent to win the game."I've never liked Eddie Howe but that is exactly the issue at Stoke at the minute. O'Neill has managed Ireland who were thankful not to loose. They were not only very successful at it, got a lot of plaudits from it, Mon got the Stoke City managers job from those tactics. However we are one of the biggest and richest club's in this division and the chairman/ board need to recognise the difference between the two. Unless the thinking is further forward and that's the plan for the premier league going forward. I honestly don't think any team can get promoted without the fans being on side. Something has to give. Did he say anything about putting together a team of dirty, moaning, cheating prick weasels like his Bournemouth side were? |
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Post by tosh on Aug 21, 2022 17:01:19 GMT
We're not even aiming for the top two, Bottom two and I’d believe him You can believe him this time anyway! He’s just told Nigel that we know we’re not good enough to be a top two side and that our only aim is to be “around“ the playoffs. Didn’t he say early early last season that the playoffs was the minimum requirement to be considered a successful season? |
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Post by s7oke on Aug 21, 2022 17:02:48 GMT
He’s a Cunt and always will be !
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Post by wazbagsbro on Aug 21, 2022 17:11:33 GMT
"You can only get your fans on your side if you show your intent to win the game."I've never liked Eddie Howe but that is exactly the issue at Stoke at the minute. O'Neill has managed Ireland who were thankful not to loose. They were not only very successful at it, got a lot of plaudits from it, Mon got the Stoke City managers job from those tactics. However we are one of the biggest and richest club's in this division and the chairman/ board need to recognise the difference between the two. Unless the thinking is further forward and that's the plan for the premier league going forward. I honestly don't think any team can get promoted without the fans being on side. Something has to give. Did he say anything about putting together a team of dirty, moaning, cheating prick weasels like his Bournemouth side were? Like I said I've never liked or respected Eddie Howe but his statement about supporters was spot on. We will never get promoted with the team and fans divided. The players become disillusioned and scared to pass forward and it becomes toxic. If you don't believe me look at the last few seasons. It doesn't matter how many players we sign. I honestly believe the situation is untenable for Mon at this point |
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Post by callas12 on Aug 21, 2022 17:12:29 GMT
'We're Not Going To Be A Top Two Club' is almost as bad and unbelievable as the 'Don't What All The Fuss Is About' comment..
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 21, 2022 17:13:50 GMT
"You can only get your fans on your side if you show your intent to win the game."I've never liked Eddie Howe but that is exactly the issue at Stoke at the minute. O'Neill has managed Ireland who were thankful not to loose. They were not only very successful at it, got a lot of plaudits from it, Mon got the Stoke City managers job from those tactics. However we are one of the biggest and richest club's in this division and the chairman/ board need to recognise the difference between the two. Unless the thinking is further forward and that's the plan for the premier league going forward. I honestly don't think any team can get promoted without the fans being on side. Something has to give. Managed Northern Ireland. I don’t understand how someone, presumably British/living in Britain, can get that mixed up. |
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Post by mistergumby on Aug 21, 2022 17:28:52 GMT
Thankfully I am not to loose as well, despite that Naga Chilli episode last evening.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 21, 2022 17:32:29 GMT
"You can only get your fans on your side if you show your intent to win the game."I've never liked Eddie Howe but that is exactly the issue at Stoke at the minute. O'Neill has managed Ireland who were thankful not to loose. They were not only very successful at it, got a lot of plaudits from it, Mon got the Stoke City managers job from those tactics. However we are one of the biggest and richest club's in this division and the chairman/ board need to recognise the difference between the two. Unless the thinking is further forward and that's the plan for the premier league going forward. I honestly don't think any team can get promoted without the fans being on side. Something has to give. Managed Northern Ireland. I don’t understand how someone, presumably British/living in Britain, can get that mixed up. Why not unless you're a form of Irish I don't think most folk see a massive distinction. It'll all be the same place again in the not too distant future and quite rightly so. |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 21, 2022 17:35:16 GMT
'We're Not Going To Be A Top Two Club' is almost as bad and unbelievable as the 'Don't What All The Fuss Is About' comment.. Worse in my opinion. I've tried to stick up for him maybe too much in all honesty but saying that yesterday, I mean what the fuck was he thinking. |
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Post by banksy1art on Aug 21, 2022 17:37:22 GMT
Mon in that pre season meeting said that the aim this season is TOP HALF, no wonder the performances have been boring, negative and uninspiring. He is a very Dull manager.. even on the sidelines, he just stands there doing nowt!
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Post by sportsman on Aug 21, 2022 18:14:25 GMT
"You can only get your fans on your side if you show your intent to win the game."I've never liked Eddie Howe but that is exactly the issue at Stoke at the minute. O'Neill has managed Ireland who were thankful not to loose. They were not only very successful at it, got a lot of plaudits from it, Mon got the Stoke City managers job from those tactics. However we are one of the biggest and richest club's in this division and the chairman/ board need to recognise the difference between the two. Unless the thinking is further forward and that's the plan for the premier league going forward. I honestly don't think any team can get promoted without the fans being on side. Something has to give. Did he say anything about putting together a team of dirty, moaning, cheating prick weasels like his Bournemouth side were? To be fair he's now done the same at Newcastle,but they play with pace and intensity. The gamesmanship is something that definitely looks coached wherever he goes. They are doing well though |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 21, 2022 18:16:40 GMT
Mon in that pre season meeting said that the aim this season is TOP HALF, no wonder the performances have been boring, negative and uninspiring. He is a very Dull manager.. even on the sidelines, he just stands there doing nowt! Statements like that must really get the players champing at the bit for the new season FFS |
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Post by thevoid on Aug 21, 2022 18:18:35 GMT
Mon in that pre season meeting said that the aim this season is TOP HALF, no wonder the performances have been boring, negative and uninspiring. He is a very Dull manager.. even on the sidelines, he just stands there doing nowt! Statements like that must really get the players champing at the bit for the new season FFS Now now, in 20 years time we'll all be looking back wistfully at that time we went to Preston for a 0-0 and moved up to 13th. Really makes the dark days of a cost of living crisis just fly by. |
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Post by Sfance on Aug 21, 2022 18:24:33 GMT
Did he say anything about putting together a team of dirty, moaning, cheating prick weasels like his Bournemouth side were? Like I said I've never liked or respected Eddie Howe but his statement about supporters was spot on. We will never get promoted with the team and fans divided. The players become disillusioned and scared to pass forward and it becomes toxic. If you don't believe me look at the last few seasons. It doesn't matter how many players we sign. I honestly believe the situation is untenable for Mon at this point I'd be amazed if MON doesn't believe the same thing. What he can't believe is that Idiot John hasn't given him his marching orders. |
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Post by TinkerT on Aug 21, 2022 18:26:43 GMT
What I don't believe is how different it is watching any game the sheer pace and intensity other teams play at. We are so lethargic in possession it's absolute terrible. Our tactics and formation are all wrong then we have powder puff between the posts who no one has faith in
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 21, 2022 18:28:51 GMT
Managed Northern Ireland. I don’t understand how someone, presumably British/living in Britain, can get that mixed up. Why not unless you're a form of Irish I don't think most folk see a massive distinction. It'll all be the same place again in the not too distant future and quite rightly so. A lot of people have died to make that distinction. May as well just call Stoke a part of Wales, it’s not that far off the border. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 21, 2022 19:22:41 GMT
Why not unless you're a form of Irish I don't think most folk see a massive distinction. It'll all be the same place again in the not too distant future and quite rightly so. A lot of people have died to make that distinction. May as well just call Stoke a part of Wales, it’s not that far off the border. It's not as close as Market Drayton and I really don't think it would make a huge difference to my life which side of the border I was on. Borders are a pretty a strange notion anyway. |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Aug 21, 2022 19:50:07 GMT
A lot of people have died to make that distinction. May as well just call Stoke a part of Wales, it’s not that far off the border. It's not as close as Market Drayton and I really don't think it would make a huge difference to my life which side of the border I was on. Borders are a pretty a strange notion anyway. Free prescriptions for all and free care homes in Wales - and they fly their A&E casualties into our hospitals here in Stoke - devolution in all its glory paid for by the English tax payers….. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 21, 2022 19:57:12 GMT
It's not as close as Market Drayton and I really don't think it would make a huge difference to my life which side of the border I was on. Borders are a pretty a strange notion anyway. Free prescriptions for all and free care homes in Wales - and they fly their A&E casualties into our hospitals here in Stoke - devolution in all its glory paid for by the English tax payers….. You've forgotten the roads. They're so much better maintained in Wales. Great for trips up to the coast from here near the border in Drayton. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2022 20:10:26 GMT
Eddie Howe is right in what he thinks the fans want to see .
He also knows that's how leagues are won these days so win ,win
Being negative and dull is pointless ( cue Alan partridge...I think you might get one point! I know)
Fulham smashed the championship last season by going out to smash their opponents six and seven and thank goodness for that
They might fail some times and draw a blank but they will be out to try at score a hat full of goals against whoever in the prem too , as will Liverpool, man city, and er Newcastle
The last time I can honestly remember someone successfully trying to win the league with negative dreary tactics is when George Graham was at arsenal and that is decades ago .And even that only worked because he had a striker burying every half chance ( Ian Wright) and a keeper saving almost everything except literally unsaveable shots ( David seaman)
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