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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 12, 2023 21:25:56 GMT
Nah. I remember the interview he gave when he joined, was very cock sure of himself. Perhaps that’s come through in training. I personally prefer a player who feels confident in his own ability but each to their own I suppose. I’m worried about the type of player Neil is looking at tbh What type of player is that?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 12, 2023 21:27:42 GMT
Yeah he’s too much of a footballer. Oh, seen lots of him ? He's looked poor in red and white tbf The bits I’ve seen he’s impressed me, certainly more than deserves a shot to see if he can improve us. Incredible that he can’t get a look in in our midfield. Perplexing
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 12, 2023 21:36:44 GMT
Which games? Thought he looked one of our better players against Sunderland and Boro? I thought he looked lively but didn't really do much and was easily knocked off the ball, would have liked to have seen a bit more of him but if the manager thinks he can do better I don't see a problem in getting rid. It makes sense to get rid if he doesn't plan on using him, absolutely. Don't think we'd have been much worse off giving him a run of games instead of pretty much any of the other options but the important thing is we get in players the manager does have a plan for.
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Post by lordb on Jan 12, 2023 21:40:00 GMT
Oh, seen lots of him ? He's looked poor in red and white tbf The bits I’ve seen he’s impressed me, certainly more than deserves a shot to see if he can improve us. Incredible that he can’t get a look in in our midfield. Perplexing Hugely unimpressed with him pre season and when he's played for U21's
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 12, 2023 21:43:13 GMT
Nah. I remember the interview he gave when he joined, was very cock sure of himself. Perhaps that’s come through in training. I personally prefer a player who feels confident in his own ability but each to their own I suppose. I’m worried about the type of player Neil is looking at tbh What type of player is that? I’m not sure yet as he hasn’t signed anyone. Hopefully his style of player is better than what we have but I’m worried and intrigued in equal measure. Wasn’t slagging him off just have a feeling of trepidation after the last few years. Hopefully he gets more right than wrong
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 12, 2023 22:13:52 GMT
Shame as v Sunderland he looked decent but if the only way AN can get players in is to send loans back that he doesn’t like the look of we have to trust him.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 13, 2023 0:30:43 GMT
What type of player is that? I’m not sure yet as he hasn’t signed anyone. Hopefully his style of player is better than what we have but I’m worried and intrigued in equal measure. Wasn’t slagging him off just have a feeling of trepidation after the last few years. Hopefully he gets more right than wrong Tbh I was just trying to find out if you knew of anything happening 😂
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 13, 2023 7:09:58 GMT
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/23247502.blackburn-rovers-round-up-gavin-kilkenny-dilan-markanday-rumours/NO GO ON GAV Rovers have been linked with a move for midfielder Gavin Kilkenny. The 22-year-old is currently on loan at Stoke City from Bournemouth, but reports suggested that he would be recalled by the Premier League side and then loaned to Rovers. However, the Lancashire Telegraph understands there to be nothing in those links at this stage. He is now fit and back in the squad, but could be recalled by the Cherries in a bid to find him more regular game-time. As things stand, that won’t be at Rovers.
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Post by Stokester on Jan 13, 2023 8:37:17 GMT
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/23247502.blackburn-rovers-round-up-gavin-kilkenny-dilan-markanday-rumours/NO GO ON GAV Rovers have been linked with a move for midfielder Gavin Kilkenny. The 22-year-old is currently on loan at Stoke City from Bournemouth, but reports suggested that he would be recalled by the Premier League side and then loaned to Rovers. However, the Lancashire Telegraph understands there to be nothing in those links at this stage. He is now fit and back in the squad, but could be recalled by the Cherries in a bid to find him more regular game-time. As things stand, that won’t be at Rovers. Basically he may not go to Blackburn, but his future isn't here.
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Post by leicspotter on Jan 13, 2023 9:56:02 GMT
What I've seen of him he looks a tidy footballer but doesn't give me the impression he would ever take a game by the scruff of the neck and dominate it. I put Will Smallbone in that bracket too, a tidy player but with little end result.
Both could be good in the right set up, neither are what we need right now. Mainly 'cos what we need right now is something very special indeed, or a miracle
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 13, 2023 10:48:56 GMT
Be interesting to see if he is on the bench tomorrow.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 14, 2023 15:35:51 GMT
He’s better than these two clowns Laurent and Thompson playing today.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Jan 14, 2023 15:38:13 GMT
He’s better than these two clowns Laurent and Thompson playing today. Thompson is wank. Absolute wank. I'm 42 year old keeper and im better than him. Rip his contract up and get rid
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 15:44:27 GMT
He’s better than these two clowns Laurent and Thompson playing today. Don't you mean 3 clowns? I've never seen Kilkenny play, and I wouldn't know him if I saw him out and about in the street, but he'd have to go some to be as bad as the current shithouses who play in our midfield
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 14, 2023 15:51:31 GMT
He’s better than these two clowns Laurent and Thompson playing today. Don't you mean 3 clowns? I've never seen Kilkenny play, and I wouldn't know him if I saw him out and about in the street, but he'd have to go some to be as bad as the current shithouses who play in our midfield Baker’s set pieces have been shit but he’s not been clown like. Unlike the other two.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jan 14, 2023 19:39:50 GMT
If Kilkenny isn't considered good enough to get into the team in front of the three wastes of time that played today, he needs to be gone before it's too late for us to replace him and for him to rescue his career. Typical Stoke business.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 15, 2023 9:21:58 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 15, 2023 9:24:18 GMT
What a waste of a loan though injured a high percentage of the time it does feel like he wasn’t given a fair chance when fit.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 16, 2023 11:17:26 GMT
www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/23253070.oneil-afc-bournemouth-monitoring-kilkennys-lack-games-stokeGARY O’Neil stressed that Gavin Kilkenny’s loan spell at Championship Stoke City is being “monitored” as the Irish midfielder struggles for game time. “I think the situation where Gav will be monitored by the recruitment team and the loan manager will be looking at that constantly for us. “When you send players like Gav on loan, you're hopeful that they gain experience and get playing time. “He hasn't had as much as he would have liked. “So, yes, we'll just monitor the situation and decide what's best for Gavin and best for Bournemouth.”
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 16, 2023 11:19:09 GMT
www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/23253070.oneil-afc-bournemouth-monitoring-kilkennys-lack-games-stokeGARY O’Neil stressed that Gavin Kilkenny’s loan spell at Championship Stoke City is being “monitored” as the Irish midfielder struggles for game time. “I think the situation where Gav will be monitored by the recruitment team and the loan manager will be looking at that constantly for us. “When you send players like Gav on loan, you're hopeful that they gain experience and get playing time. “He hasn't had as much as he would have liked. “So, yes, we'll just monitor the situation and decide what's best for Gavin and best for Bournemouth.” What's there to monitor? He can't get in the worst midfield in the league ffs, just call him back.
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Post by RF10 on Jan 16, 2023 13:09:45 GMT
www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/23253070.oneil-afc-bournemouth-monitoring-kilkennys-lack-games-stokeGARY O’Neil stressed that Gavin Kilkenny’s loan spell at Championship Stoke City is being “monitored” as the Irish midfielder struggles for game time. “I think the situation where Gav will be monitored by the recruitment team and the loan manager will be looking at that constantly for us. “When you send players like Gav on loan, you're hopeful that they gain experience and get playing time. “He hasn't had as much as he would have liked. “So, yes, we'll just monitor the situation and decide what's best for Gavin and best for Bournemouth.” They have loan manager? John Coates head would explode at the very suggestion for us to take this approach.
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Post by lordb on Jan 16, 2023 13:14:59 GMT
www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/23253070.oneil-afc-bournemouth-monitoring-kilkennys-lack-games-stokeGARY O’Neil stressed that Gavin Kilkenny’s loan spell at Championship Stoke City is being “monitored” as the Irish midfielder struggles for game time. “I think the situation where Gav will be monitored by the recruitment team and the loan manager will be looking at that constantly for us. “When you send players like Gav on loan, you're hopeful that they gain experience and get playing time. “He hasn't had as much as he would have liked. “So, yes, we'll just monitor the situation and decide what's best for Gavin and best for Bournemouth.” They have loan manager? John Coates head would explode at the very suggestion for us to take this approach. I think all pl clubs do
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 16, 2023 13:21:46 GMT
www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/23253070.oneil-afc-bournemouth-monitoring-kilkennys-lack-games-stokeGARY O’Neil stressed that Gavin Kilkenny’s loan spell at Championship Stoke City is being “monitored” as the Irish midfielder struggles for game time. “I think the situation where Gav will be monitored by the recruitment team and the loan manager will be looking at that constantly for us. “When you send players like Gav on loan, you're hopeful that they gain experience and get playing time. “He hasn't had as much as he would have liked. “So, yes, we'll just monitor the situation and decide what's best for Gavin and best for Bournemouth.” They have loan manager? John Coates head would explode at the very suggestion for us to take this approach. I wonder what a loan manager actually does? Does he just go to the occasional game that the player is involved in? Perhaps it’s necessary for clubs that can loan out 20 players a year, but perhaps it would be better to make such a nonsense position defunct by restricting that number in the first place.
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Post by stormin on Jan 16, 2023 15:08:25 GMT
I thought he looked lively but didn't really do much and was easily knocked off the ball, would have liked to have seen a bit more of him but if the manager thinks he can do better I don't see a problem in getting rid. in their promotion It makes sense to get rid if he doesn't plan on using him, absolutely. Don't think we'd have been much worse off giving him a run of games instead of pretty much any of the other options but the important thing is we get in players the manager does have a plan for. He played 18 first team games for Bournemouth in their promotion season, he cannot be a bad player so how do Stoke deploy the talent they have to win games, 3 upfront goal scoring players is a start.
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Post by wherty on Jan 16, 2023 15:16:55 GMT
It makes sense to get rid if he doesn't plan on using him, absolutely. Don't think we'd have been much worse off giving him a run of games instead of pretty much any of the other options but the important thing is we get in players the manager does have a plan for. He played 18 first team games for Bournemouth in their promotion season, he cannot be a bad player so how do Stoke deploy the talent they have to win games, 3 upfront goal scoring players is a start. Spending 3 of his 5 months here injured hasn't helped all parties.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 16, 2023 15:22:30 GMT
It makes sense to get rid if he doesn't plan on using him, absolutely. Don't think we'd have been much worse off giving him a run of games instead of pretty much any of the other options but the important thing is we get in players the manager does have a plan for. He played 18 first team games for Bournemouth in their promotion season, he cannot be a bad player so how do Stoke deploy the talent they have to win games, 3 upfront goal scoring players is a start. I agree completely, I can't see what the harm would've been giving him a run alongside any of the current duffers. Neil clearly doesn't see it that way though, so there's more to be gained sending him back and getting someone he will actually play.
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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 16, 2023 15:40:26 GMT
He played 18 first team games for Bournemouth in their promotion season, he cannot be a bad player so how do Stoke deploy the talent they have to win games, 3 upfront goal scoring players is a start. I agree completely, I can't see what the harm would've been giving him a run alongside any of the current duffers. Neil clearly doesn't see it that way though, so there's more to be gained sending him back and getting someone he will actually play. Let's not forget that at this time in the season Neil also saw it to be a good idea to get rid of a coach and therefore a striker. Just saying like...
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 16, 2023 15:45:17 GMT
I agree completely, I can't see what the harm would've been giving him a run alongside any of the current duffers. Neil clearly doesn't see it that way though, so there's more to be gained sending him back and getting someone he will actually play. Let's not forget that at this time in the season Neil also saw it to be a good idea to get rid of a coach and therefore a striker. Just saying like... I think both probably are fair enough there though aren’t they? Neil wants his own coaching staff around him and I don’t see an issue with that, better have some clarity of ideas rather than an inherited patchwork of other managers’ ones. Liam is collateral damage in all that but even if he does turn out to be a good player elsewhere, he isn’t what we need right now.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jan 16, 2023 15:53:22 GMT
“So, yes, we'll just monitor the situation and decide what's best for Gavin and best for Bournemouth.”[/quote]They have loan manager? John Coates head would explode at the very suggestion for us to take this approach. [/quote] We also have or had similar....this chap. Considering the way we operate regarding getting players in is very apt for he is The Loan Arranger
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Post by iamstokie on Jan 16, 2023 15:55:51 GMT
He played 18 first team games for Bournemouth in their promotion season, he cannot be a bad player so how do Stoke deploy the talent they have to win games, 3 upfront goal scoring players is a start. I agree completely, I can't see what the harm would've been giving him a run alongside any of the current duffers. Neil clearly doesn't see it that way though, so there's more to be gained sending him back and getting someone he will actually play. Can’t see Bournemouth having him back until they have somewhere else to loan because they’re saving money on his wages while he’s here
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