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Post by stoke111 on Jan 29, 2023 22:14:55 GMT
I don’t understand how he’s barely been given a chance. If he’s really that bad that he doesn’t deserve a chance why did we sign him in the first place? Different manager signed him And was never given a chance under the previous manager. Hence the question why did we sign him if he’s not good enough? Did we do any research on him?
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Post by st3mark on Jan 29, 2023 22:21:26 GMT
Different manager signed him And was never given a chance under the previous manager. Hence the question why did we sign him if he’s not good enough? Did we do any research on him? I don't think there is any evidence that he is bad. I think he contributed in a team that got promoted and they still rate him. On the flip side I can't think of a good reason why he hasn't been given a chance.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 29, 2023 22:21:39 GMT
Big shame, could regret this one, had high hopes for this lad… Don’t think there’s much to regret. He wasn’t our player, got injured for months and then didn’t get a game under a manager who didn’t sign him. If he goes somewhere else and does well, then that’s good for him.
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Post by datguy on Jan 29, 2023 22:26:33 GMT
Treatment of this lad isn’t a good look for the club, is it?
He’s been injured a bit but to get no minutes whatsoever is a poor look.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jan 30, 2023 0:01:31 GMT
Spent a week in San Francisco once.
Autumn/fall.
Quite pleasant.
The fog, constantly, gently rolling in off the Bay. As a result, despite all my time in SanFran I never saw the Golden Gate Bridge. As such, metaphysically, I do not believe the GGBridge exists.
I fell the same about Gavin Kilkenny.
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Post by gcamoutsideboot on Jan 30, 2023 7:11:51 GMT
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 30, 2023 7:44:05 GMT
Holden was the person at the club who recommended him then.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 30, 2023 8:15:51 GMT
If we're letting him go we must be close to getting another midfielder in.
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Post by lordb on Jan 30, 2023 8:21:03 GMT
If we're letting him go we must be close to getting another midfielder in. suspect he will use Clucas
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Post by Caddick988 on Jan 30, 2023 8:39:24 GMT
Didn't Kilkenny feature in double figure games for Bournemouth last season? I understand they probably thought he wasn't ready for the Prem but he's bearly got a look in here so makes me wonder why we don't deem him good enough for us. However I'd much rather use the loan to bring someone in that will get minutes and make a difference to our squad. Hopefully they've got another midfielder lined up ready to go!
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Post by stantheman on Jan 30, 2023 8:43:42 GMT
If we're letting him go we must be close to getting another midfielder in. suspect he will use Clucas For arranging the cones and water bottles.....
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Post by lordb on Jan 30, 2023 8:44:10 GMT
Didn't Kilkenny feature in double figure games for Bournemouth last season? I understand they probably thought he wasn't ready for the Prem but he's bearly got a look in here so makes me wonder why we don't deem him good enough for us. However I'd much rather use the loan to bring someone in that will get minutes and make a difference to our squad. Hopefully they've got another midfielder lined up ready to go! He did but no so much after xmas
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Post by nicethrow on Jan 30, 2023 9:39:46 GMT
If we're letting him go we must be close to getting another midfielder in. suspect he will use Clucas I have completely forgotten that Clucas is still with us! Has he played this year?
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 30, 2023 9:43:19 GMT
I don’t understand how he’s barely been given a chance. If he’s really that bad that he doesn’t deserve a chance why did we sign him in the first place? Different manager signed him He barely used him either. I think when he arrived he must have said fuck me I never ordered a dwarf.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 30, 2023 9:50:12 GMT
Isn't Clucas out for almost the whole season due to an injury?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 30, 2023 9:59:26 GMT
Isn't Clucas out for almost the whole season due to an injury? Back on grass apparently. Good for pain relief I'm told.
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Post by shakermaker on Jan 30, 2023 10:01:29 GMT
Didn't Kilkenny feature in double figure games for Bournemouth last season? I understand they probably thought he wasn't ready for the Prem but he's bearly got a look in here so makes me wonder why we don't deem him good enough for us. However I'd much rather use the loan to bring someone in that will get minutes and make a difference to our squad. Hopefully they've got another midfielder lined up ready to go! He did but no so much after xmas Maybe Parker could take him over to Bruges so Bursik has someone to play pat-a-cake with.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 30, 2023 10:06:05 GMT
Isn't Clucas out for almost the whole season due to an injury? Back on grass apparently. Good for pain relief I'm told. Clucas is not my favourite player exactly, but as back up he is OK I guess. Still a bit threadbare in that depertment though.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 30, 2023 10:27:16 GMT
Back on grass apparently. Good for pain relief I'm told. Clucas is not my favourite player exactly, but as back up he is OK I guess. Still a bit threadbare in that depertment though. I don't know about that mate we seem to have muddled through this far without either Kilkenny or Clucas. Clucas just takes Kilkenny's place on the bench til the summer. Might come back to bite us up the arse with a few untimely injuries in that department but you can't stockpile players 'just in case'. Well not unless you're Chelsea that is. If we're going to loan a player they need to be playing regularly otherwise its a waste and runs the risk of upsetting with balance of the contracted players.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 30, 2023 10:59:37 GMT
Clucas is not my favourite player exactly, but as back up he is OK I guess. Still a bit threadbare in that depertment though. I don't know about that mate we seem to have muddled through this far without either Kilkenny or Clucas. Clucas just takes Kilkenny's place on the bench til the summer. Might come back to bite us up the arse with a few untimely injuries in that department but you can't stockpile players 'just in case'. Well not unless you're Chelsea that is. If we're going to loan a player they need to be playing regularly otherwise its a waste and runs the risk of upsetting with balance of the contracted players. Laurent provides the only real physicality in our midfield. We could really do with another physically imposing midfielder even if they aren’t regular a starter. It’s the same situation with a targetman if you decide you need one you really need another. We seem to keep over stocking one type of player and having nowhere near enough of another. Mobile CB’s, physical midfielders, lead the line strikers, attacking width. Lot’s of issues to sort he’ll just have to address as many as he can.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 30, 2023 11:12:25 GMT
I don't know about that mate we seem to have muddled through this far without either Kilkenny or Clucas. Clucas just takes Kilkenny's place on the bench til the summer. Might come back to bite us up the arse with a few untimely injuries in that department but you can't stockpile players 'just in case'. Well not unless you're Chelsea that is. If we're going to loan a player they need to be playing regularly otherwise its a waste and runs the risk of upsetting with balance of the contracted players. Laurent provides the only real physicality in our midfield. We could really do with another physically imposing midfielder even if they aren’t regular a starter. It’s the same situation with a targetman if you decide you need one you really need another. We seem to keep over stocking one type of player and having nowhere near enough of another. Mobile CB’s, physical midfielders, lead the line strikers, attacking width. Lot’s of issues to sort he’ll just have to address as many as he can. I agree but it's not a necessity at this point so late in the window. We should have enough in reserve in that position to get us through to the summer. Goal scorer or more specifically target man and centre back (especially if Souttar goes) are more critical now than replacing a largely unused sub.
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Post by cymap on Jan 30, 2023 11:14:55 GMT
I don't see how we can look at another loan even if kilkenny goes ....we have 5 loans without him . 1 Keeper has to be in the squad 2 Celina 3 Sterling 4 Hoever 5 Smallbone
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 30, 2023 11:17:43 GMT
Back on grass apparently. Good for pain relief I'm told. Clucas is not my favourite player exactly, but as back up he is OK I guess. Still a bit threadbare in that depertment though. The fact Kilkenny hasn’t played suggested we are over not underweight in midfield.We have got 6 midfielders plus Tymon can play in there and Celina as a 10. Our priorities should be elsewhere
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 30, 2023 12:03:15 GMT
Maybe Holden was the person who wanted him here so Charlton makes sense, at least the lad might kick a ball there.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 30, 2023 12:06:28 GMT
Laurent provides the only real physicality in our midfield. We could really do with another physically imposing midfielder even if they aren’t regular a starter. It’s the same situation with a targetman if you decide you need one you really need another. We seem to keep over stocking one type of player and having nowhere near enough of another. Mobile CB’s, physical midfielders, lead the line strikers, attacking width. Lot’s of issues to sort he’ll just have to address as many as he can. I agree but it's not a necessity at this point so late in the window. We should have enough in reserve in that position to get us through to the summer. Goal scorer or more specifically target man and centre back (especially if Souttar goes) are more critical now than replacing a largely unused sub. I agree we have far too many issues with the squad to solve in this window. It’s not a new issue for me lack of physicality is a MON legacy issue that will take multiple windows to fully address. I have no idea how AN will address it I find him quite confusing and am pretty surprised by the profile of the players he’s bringing in. Maybe he’s not as dour or likely to cling to a comfort blanket of ageing pros as I expected.
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Post by neddy on Jan 30, 2023 12:07:10 GMT
To be fair he was injured for much of his time here but good luck to him.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 30, 2023 12:22:24 GMT
Isn't Clucas out for almost the whole season due to an injury? Back on grass apparently. Good for pain relief I'm told. He’s been injured for 2 seasons. He’ll find a way to stay injured for the remainder of this one 😂 Glad Kilkenny is going. We need physicality in there, not Woods mk2.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jan 30, 2023 12:31:58 GMT
All these departures put me in mind of a sequence from the film "Zulu" when, the main action looks to be over after all the Zulus seem to disappear and Colour Sergeant Bourne gathers the soldiers together for roll call. Chard, the officer commanding, sadly turns and says to Lt Bromhead:
"So who was left. In the end?"
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Post by thebet365 on Jan 30, 2023 12:59:52 GMT
I don't see how we can look at another loan even if kilkenny goes ....we have 5 loans without him . 1 Keeper has to be in the squad 2 Celina 3 Sterling 4 Hoever 5 Smallbone Number 4 has been loaned to us for free by all accounts and is here incase 3 is injured, they don'n both need to be in the matchday squad together. So I'd say there's room for another.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 30, 2023 13:27:52 GMT
I don't see how we can look at another loan even if kilkenny goes ....we have 5 loans without him . 1 Keeper has to be in the squad 2 Celina 3 Sterling 4 Hoever 5 Smallbone Number 3 is only fit for 25-35% of available games.
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