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Post by insideright on Jun 23, 2022 20:08:54 GMT
"Harry won't be fit, we're being realistic with that" Have I missed this news or something!?
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Post by LH_SCFC on Jun 23, 2022 20:29:41 GMT
It’s not exactly news….
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jun 23, 2022 20:30:25 GMT
Ever again?
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Post by lordb on Jun 23, 2022 20:41:32 GMT
He's started pre season with the others he just won't be ready for August
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Post by insideright on Jun 23, 2022 20:47:40 GMT
That's not the line they've been towing all summer!!
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Post by s7oke on Jun 23, 2022 20:50:09 GMT
Which one ?
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Post by lordb on Jun 23, 2022 20:50:55 GMT
That's not the line they've been towing all summer!! Yes it is Holden has stated that more than once "few weeks behind the group" has been stated more than once
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Post by insideright on Jun 23, 2022 21:16:13 GMT
Okay, so yeah, I have missed that
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Post by lordb on Jun 23, 2022 21:19:31 GMT
Don't forget there was talk about him not coming back till 2023
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 23, 2022 21:20:52 GMT
It’s normally nine months or so for an injury like that one, so on the basis he did it in November, we are looking at late August/ early September I think.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jun 23, 2022 21:26:22 GMT
Is that; 'Harry' Campbell 'Harry' Powell Or 'Harry' Thomspon
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Post by Championship Potter on Jun 23, 2022 21:30:58 GMT
Normally a 6-9 month job. Was hoping he would be nearer the shorter end of that given he’s been “on the grass” for a while now.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 23, 2022 21:43:12 GMT
Normally a 6-9 month job. Was hoping he would be nearer the shorter end of that given he’s been “on the grass” for a while now. Me too. A cheeky sativa.
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Post by pottersrule on Jun 23, 2022 22:09:16 GMT
Normally a 6-9 month job. Was hoping he would be nearer the shorter end of that given he’s been “on the grass” for a while now. Apparently those coming back before 9 months are more likely to injure the knee again,I think O'Neil eluded to this when he said he wouldn't be rushed back.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jun 23, 2022 22:11:30 GMT
October I reckon but he’ll be desperate to prove his fitness for the WC
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Post by Gods on Jun 23, 2022 22:48:54 GMT
I think this is partly the reason for the Flint signing.
We know Harry won't be a regular until the second half of the season and we need a big unit at the back until he is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 22:50:59 GMT
It’s normally nine months or so for an injury like that one, so on the basis he did it in November, we are looking at late August/ early September I think. Even that is optimistic to expect him to be back up to full speed. These injuries are the worst injury a footballer can get, there are no guarantees when he will be back up to the standards he was at before it.
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Post by march4 on Jun 23, 2022 22:54:16 GMT
It’s normally nine months or so for an injury like that one, so on the basis he did it in November, we are looking at late August/ early September I think. Even that is optimistic to expect him to be back up to full speed. These injuries are the worst injury a footballer can get, there are no guarantees when he will be back up to the standards he was at before it. I fear it will be this time next year before he is confident in the knee.
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Post by dirtclod on Jun 24, 2022 0:31:19 GMT
Normally a 6-9 month job. Was hoping he would be nearer the shorter end of that given he’s been “on the grass” for a while now. Me too. A cheeky sativa. Good for inflammation...but... then again, I wouldn't know about that...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 4:55:44 GMT
He'll always be fit in my eyes.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 24, 2022 5:12:57 GMT
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Post by potters11 on Jun 24, 2022 5:17:37 GMT
Possibly being extra cautious after Campbell was somewhat rushed back and we saw how that ended up.
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Post by werrington on Jun 24, 2022 5:31:15 GMT
Possibly being extra cautious after Campbell was somewhat rushed back and we saw how that ended up. Campbell wasn’t rushed back at all
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Post by potters11 on Jun 24, 2022 5:38:04 GMT
Possibly being extra cautious after Campbell was somewhat rushed back and we saw how that ended up. Campbell wasn’t rushed back at all Maybe I should have re-phrased that ... he wasn’t rushed back but he was used far too much when he was back in the team initially (when he was still getting up to speed) and we paid for it with a lacklustre season. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I think with hindsight we can all agree we could have handled it better last season.
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Post by werrington on Jun 24, 2022 5:42:37 GMT
Campbell wasn’t rushed back at all Maybe I should have re-phrased that ... he wasn’t rushed back but he was used far too much when he was back in the team initially (when he was still getting up to speed) and we paid for it with a lacklustre season. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I think with hindsight we can all agree we could have handled it better last season. Stoke handled it superbly in his recovery mate, stepping it back, slowing it down 20 mins then 30 mins then 45 mins and so on and completely pulling him out of games at times Players have to build fitness up in a match situation and that’s what Campbell did and it will be the same with Souttar When he’s ready he’ll be in the team and not before 👍
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Post by potters11 on Jun 24, 2022 5:48:06 GMT
Maybe I should have re-phrased that ... he wasn’t rushed back but he was used far too much when he was back in the team initially (when he was still getting up to speed) and we paid for it with a lacklustre season. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I think with hindsight we can all agree we could have handled it better last season. Stoke handled it superbly in his recovery mate, stepping it back, slowing it down 20 mins then 30 mins then 45 mins and so on and completely pulling him out of games at times Players have to build fitness up in a match situation and that’s what Campbell did and it will be the same with Souttar When he’s ready he’ll be in the team and not before 👍 We’ll have to agree to disagree here mate because for me it felt like we were over-using Campbell for large parts of last season to the determent of the team. That’s in the past now so let’s hope Campbell and Souttar both find their A game this season and if they do there won’t be 2 better players in the division.
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Post by Championship Potter on Jun 24, 2022 6:23:39 GMT
Normally a 6-9 month job. Was hoping he would be nearer the shorter end of that given he’s been “on the grass” for a while now. Apparently those coming back before 9 months are more likely to injure the knee again,I think O'Neil eluded to this when he said he wouldn't be rushed back. Think whether it’s a full / partial tear makes a big difference too + any surrounding ligament / cartilage damage. Guess the Flint signing makes more sense now - if Souttar isn’t able to do a full pre season it’s going to take him a while to get up to speed, plus we’ll lose him for the World Cup.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jun 24, 2022 6:55:31 GMT
Unless he’s playing the full 90 minutes for us on a regular basis then his participation in the WC remains doubtful.
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Post by lordb on Jun 24, 2022 6:57:38 GMT
Apparently those coming back before 9 months are more likely to injure the knee again,I think O'Neil eluded to this when he said he wouldn't be rushed back. Think whether it’s a full / partial tear makes a big difference too + any surrounding ligament / cartilage damage. Guess the Flint signing makes more sense now - if Souttar isn’t able to do a full pre season it’s going to take him a while to get up to speed, plus we’ll lose him for the World Cup. Stoke aren't playing during the first few weeks of the World Cup
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 24, 2022 7:16:25 GMT
Maybe I should have re-phrased that ... he wasn’t rushed back but he was used far too much when he was back in the team initially (when he was still getting up to speed) and we paid for it with a lacklustre season. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I think with hindsight we can all agree we could have handled it better last season. Stoke handled it superbly in his recovery mate, stepping it back, slowing it down 20 mins then 30 mins then 45 mins and so on and completely pulling him out of games at times Players have to build fitness up in a match situation and that’s what Campbell did and it will be the same with Souttar When he’s ready he’ll be in the team and not before 👍 Campbell wasn't ready for first team football - for the most part his performances didn't merit a place in the side. You are right it was handled well in terms of minutes on the pitch but those minutes should have been in the U23s. I hope we don't make the same mistake with Souttar and he only gets back when he's fully fit and he plays on merit rather than as part of his rehabilitation. I'd rather him play a few games towards the end of the season than have him back before Xmas - unless he is genuinely ready.
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