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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 10, 2022 14:22:45 GMT
Jesus wept him and souttar in a back 4 would be embarrassing Why? It would certainly be slow. I'd hope first choice would be Wilmot and Souttar once Harry's back, if we're keeping a back four. Equally there doesn't seem much place for Flint in a back three.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jun 10, 2022 14:24:15 GMT
I reckon Flint has been signed because Souttar might take a while to get up to speed. I also quite liked Flint in the past, but I am concerned about a 33 year old big unit coming in. I guess he might be useful in cup games, but I would have preferred a left footed centre back myself. Bring back Lindsay!
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Post by TinkerT on Jun 10, 2022 14:27:16 GMT
Jesus wept him and souttar in a back 4 would be embarrassing Why? Because they're both about 6ft 6, have a turning circle of a aircraft carrier and both run with parachutes fully deployed when trying to run. Painful.
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Post by bringitondown on Jun 10, 2022 14:29:34 GMT
It would certainly be slow. I'd hope first choice would be Wilmot and Souttar once Harry's back, if we're keeping a back four. Equally there doesn't seem much place for Flint in a back three. I don't think Souttar is actually that slow. Granted they wouldn't be very agile but equally you wouldn't be expecting to play a high line. Let's be realistic, if the manager doesn't fancy Wilmot as a centre back in back 5 he sure as hell isn't going to play him there in a back 4. Agree that Flint doesn't fit into a back 3/5 situation. Even as the central man, his distribution isn't going to be good enough.
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Post by mowlee on Jun 10, 2022 14:36:22 GMT
big man.. don’t call people shit an expect nothing back
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 10, 2022 14:38:16 GMT
It would certainly be slow. I'd hope first choice would be Wilmot and Souttar once Harry's back, if we're keeping a back four. Equally there doesn't seem much place for Flint in a back three. I don't think Souttar is actually that slow. Granted they wouldn't be very agile but equally you wouldn't be expecting to play a high line. Let's be realistic, if the manager doesn't fancy Wilmot as a centre back in back 5 he sure as hell isn't going to play him there in a back 4. Agree that Flint doesn't fit into a back 3/5 situation. Even as the central man, his distribution isn't going to be good enough. It depends what kind of back four you want to play I guess. If you're planning on two banks of four and sitting deep then mobility in your centre backs is less of an issue but I was hoping we'd have more about us than that. Think Wilmot does offer us something a bit more rounded in that regard, but if the manager has decided he doesn't fancy him, then the manager has in effect pissed away all of the money in transfer fees he was allowed to spend last season and shouldn't be given another penny if and when we are allowed to spend again.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 10, 2022 14:38:55 GMT
I reckon Flint has been signed because Souttar might take a while to get up to speed. I also quite liked Flint in the past, but I am concerned about a 33 year old big unit coming in. I guess he might be useful in cup games, but I would have preferred a left footed centre back myself. Bring back Lindsay! Isn't that why Jagielka was re-signed though?
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Post by bringitondown on Jun 10, 2022 14:47:26 GMT
I don't think Souttar is actually that slow. Granted they wouldn't be very agile but equally you wouldn't be expecting to play a high line. Let's be realistic, if the manager doesn't fancy Wilmot as a centre back in back 5 he sure as hell isn't going to play him there in a back 4. Agree that Flint doesn't fit into a back 3/5 situation. Even as the central man, his distribution isn't going to be good enough. It depends what kind of back four you want to play I guess. If you're planning on two banks of four and sitting deep then mobility in your centre backs is less of an issue but I was hoping we'd have more about us than that. Think Wilmot does offer us something a bit more rounded in that regard, but if the manager has decided he doesn't fancy him, then the manager has in effect pissed away all of the money in transfer fees he was allowed to spend last season and shouldn't be given another penny if and when we are allowed to spend again. Certainly wouldn't be my first choice either but I can't see our manager reattaching his balls anytime soon. I also hope he gives Wilmot another go.
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Post by etebojan on Jun 10, 2022 14:57:56 GMT
I reckon Flint has been signed because Souttar might take a while to get up to speed. I also quite liked Flint in the past, but I am concerned about a 33 year old big unit coming in. I guess he might be useful in cup games, but I would have preferred a left footed centre back myself. Bring back Lindsay! Isn't that why Jagielka was re-signed though? None of our temporary Souttar cover loans/signings have come close to matching his aerial dominance, something that would have made a big difference in a lot of those games we threw away last season. Cover wise Flint looks like he's particularly strong on that front, could help us shut up shop and grind out results when needed. He's not a young signing, he's not an exciting signing, we're signing him for his grit & nastiness, when we're in the trenches.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 10, 2022 14:58:27 GMT
Isn't that why Jagielka was re-signed though? None of our temporary Souttar cover loans/signings have come close to matching his aerial dominance, something that would have made a big difference in a lot of those games we threw away last season. Cover wise Flint looks like he's particularly strong on that front, could help us shut up shop and grind out results when needed. Oh goody.
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Post by etebojan on Jun 10, 2022 15:03:15 GMT
None of our temporary Souttar cover loans/signings have come close to matching his aerial dominance, something that would have made a big difference in a lot of those games we threw away last season. Cover wise Flint looks like he's particularly strong on that front, could help us shut up shop and grind out results when needed. Oh goody.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jun 10, 2022 15:20:36 GMT
Why don't I feel comfortable with this??? I just get the feeling O'Neil hasn't changed his ways regarding signings..... I really hope I'm wrong, not for O'Neil's sake, but for ours!!!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 10, 2022 15:30:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2022 15:32:42 GMT
Bloody hell, outrageous goal record for a centre half that in all fairness!
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Post by mattador78 on Jun 10, 2022 15:37:34 GMT
Bloody hell, outrageous goal record for a centre half that in all fairness! It’s better than most of our forwards
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 10, 2022 15:47:48 GMT
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Post by jokker on Jun 10, 2022 15:57:59 GMT
Does this mean we’re looking at a back four next season do we think? If we are to play with just two central defenders - provided we don't play with additional central defenders in the fullback positions - then when we would only need four on the books, but we already have five plus Fox who's played there sensationally only in O'Neill's dreams. So if Flint is brought in he must be one of three back ups to the the three who will be playing in O'Neills favoured three at the back systems. Of course pre season has just started and who's to say that O'Neill won't bringing in yet another three central defenders? He did bring in four not so long ago.
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Post by lordb on Jun 10, 2022 16:02:52 GMT
all u’s are banging on about this problem.. but none of ya’s of ya’s have the balls too say why because we are embarrassed for you
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Post by theonlooker on Jun 10, 2022 16:06:34 GMT
Good start to the window. Next.
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Post by themistocles on Jun 10, 2022 16:07:52 GMT
Replacement for Chester/Moore.
Fine.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 10, 2022 16:14:16 GMT
Good start to the window. Next. You're really good at sarcasm.
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Post by theonlooker on Jun 10, 2022 16:15:24 GMT
Good start to the window. Next. You're really good at sarcasm. I'm being serious.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jun 10, 2022 16:21:56 GMT
The Stoke scouting network comes good again.
Jesus wept.
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Post by mowlee on Jun 10, 2022 16:22:00 GMT
all u’s are banging on about this problem.. but none of ya’s of ya’s have the balls too say why because we are embarrassed for you don’t be embarrassed for me u bellend.. I couldn’t give a fuck
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 10, 2022 16:22:11 GMT
So Cardiff have not tried to re-sign Flint because of his wages yet are trying to get Bale in?
I guess there is no comparison ability wise but still seems odd unless they just think Flint is pretty crap anyway.
I'm struggling to find much enthusiasm for Flint on Cardiff's message board, apart from he did a reasonable job for replacing another defender they had!
this one's a bit worrying
"Bacuna, Vassell, Murphy, Flint and Pack are all starring in a major new motion picture. The Madness of Neil Warnock.
What a waste of money"
on the plus side
"If he wasn’t so slow he’d be a cracking defender"
then
"Flint is a penalty box centre back, he can’t play a high line."
"When your centre half is more effective in the opponent’s half of the field than his own, you know you’ve got a problem."
"If we are going to be in a relegation battle and the aim is to stay up id say give him a year."
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Post by fraybentos on Jun 10, 2022 16:25:39 GMT
corners might be a bit more interesting this season with souttar and flint
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 10, 2022 16:30:56 GMT
I imagine that a back four next season will start with:
Wilmot Flint Jagielka Tymon
Fox as cover for Tymon (if ever fit). As Souttar gets fit, Flint will make way.
If we bring in a right back, I see Wilmot trying to take on Jagielka for that position, which will be a tough ask.
Taylor and/or Forrester need to be loaned out as soon as possible then.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 10, 2022 16:38:28 GMT
You're really good at sarcasm. I'm being serious. Yeah I know, I was trying to give you an out.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 10, 2022 16:46:13 GMT
I imagine that a back four next season will start with: Wilmot Flint Jagielka Tymon Fox as cover for Tymon (if ever fit). As Souttar gets fit, Flint will make way. If we bring in a right back, I see Wilmot trying to take on Jagielka for that position, which will be a tough ask. Taylor and/or Forrester need to be loaned out as soon as possible then. That’s…..erm…..agricultural. The excitement is building.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 10, 2022 16:49:50 GMT
I imagine that a back four next season will start with: Wilmot Flint Jagielka Tymon Fox as cover for Tymon (if ever fit). As Souttar gets fit, Flint will make way. If we bring in a right back, I see Wilmot trying to take on Jagielka for that position, which will be a tough ask. Taylor and/or Forrester need to be loaned out as soon as possible then. That’s…..erm…..agricultural. The excitement is building. Shaping up well. Wilmot at RB and Super Joe re-signing, and we're well on the way
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