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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 21:58:11 GMT
Our form is beyond awful.
Not just the last 9 but for 20+ games now.
If the board don't act sharpish, it's beyond negligent and absolute incompetence.
There's no need for hysteria. The season is over. It's beyond disappointing. But we are where we are.
For whatever reason MON has reverted to ridiculous decisions like picking Bonham and Chester. His team selections have become lucky dip. He's completely lost his way.
It's time for change and theres no need to wait a second longer.
He deserves credit for the brilliant job of saving us from oblivion and completely turning us around when we were dead and buried.
But he's completely lost the plot.
Enough is enough.
Time for the axe. Let's start the work for next season.
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Post by telfordstokie on Mar 16, 2022 21:59:46 GMT
Wow, that’s even more atrocious than I thought it was. Surely enough is enough now.
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Post by stokiedan17 on Mar 16, 2022 22:00:55 GMT
I’d still give him next season at this point I don’t think we’ve got much to lose other than another season in the championship . You’re asking a new manager to come in and sign half a new team. MON is probably the best places to replace those we will lose at the end of the season.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 16, 2022 22:03:39 GMT
I’d still give him next season at this point I don’t think we’ve got much to lose other than another season in the championship . You’re asking a new manager to come in and sign half a new team. MON is probably the best places to replace those we will lose at the end of the season. Why? Based on what? He won’t sign the kind of midfielder we clearly need. He doesn’t value physicality anywhere on the park. He keeps signing strikers who are incapable of doing the job we need them to do.
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Post by stokiejon03 on Mar 16, 2022 22:04:15 GMT
Our form is beyond awful. Not just the last 9 but for 20+ games now. If the board don't act sharpish, it's beyond negligent and absolute incompetence. There's no need for hysteria. The season is over. It's beyond disappointing. But we are where we are. For whatever reason MON has reverted to ridiculous decisions like picking Bonham and Chester. His team selections have become lucky dip. He's completely lost his way. It's time for change and theres no need to wait a second longer. He deserves credit for the brilliant job of saying us from oblivion and completely turning us around when we were dead and buried. But he's completely lost his way. And more important, he's completely lost the plot. Enough is enough. Time for the axe. Let's start the work for next season. Spot on. After the first season saving us I really believed he was the manager to progress us. Such a shame it is ending like this. Can only hope he goes before Saturday so it doesn’t have to turn toxic to get him removed.
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Post by Ron on Mar 16, 2022 22:04:45 GMT
I’d still give him next season at this point I don’t think we’ve got much to lose other than another season in the championship . You’re asking a new manager to come in and sign half a new team. MON is probably the best places to replace those we will lose at the end of the season. seriously? 2 seasons of appalling recruitment and 2nd half of the season implosion? Get real. There NO room for sentiment in this game. Forest and Boro were ruthless and got the quality managers available. I’m sure both Cooper and wilder would have been interested in the job.
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Post by Gods on Mar 16, 2022 22:05:00 GMT
If we decide MON is just too unlucky then we need a better plan.
I'm not sure we have one.
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Post by houstonsteve on Mar 16, 2022 22:06:01 GMT
I’d still give him next season at this point I don’t think we’ve got much to lose other than another season in the championship . You’re asking a new manager to come in and sign half a new team. MON is probably the best places to replace those we will lose at the end of the season. why? Cant other managers spot and sign players?
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Post by stokiedan17 on Mar 16, 2022 22:06:12 GMT
I’d still give him next season at this point I don’t think we’ve got much to lose other than another season in the championship . You’re asking a new manager to come in and sign half a new team. MON is probably the best places to replace those we will lose at the end of the season. Why? Based on what? He won’t sign the kind of midfielder we clearly need. He doesn’t value physicality anywhere on the park. He keeps signing strikers who are incapable of doing the job we need them to do. He got baker though who look exactly like the sort of midfielder I’d want at the club. If we can get 2-3 more players like him we will be laughing. If he gets 2-3 more like Chester were probably fooked. Either way I’d probably give him the season let him see out the last year of his 5 year plan
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Post by 1863forever on Mar 16, 2022 22:06:24 GMT
Another season falling in to a sad sorry damp squid. A season which offered so much a one point may only be remembered for a very good clear out of dead wood.
As for MON, I'd keep him, give him the summer of realistic business as opposed to the pressure to offload and balance the books we've seen this season and judge him at the end of January 2023.
Constant change has not worked well for us. A little stability may be beneficial for all involved.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 22:07:12 GMT
I’d still give him next season at this point I don’t think we’ve got much to lose other than another season in the championship . You’re asking a new manager to come in and sign half a new team. MON is probably the best places to replace those we will lose at the end of the season. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Best joke ever.
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Post by stokiedan17 on Mar 16, 2022 22:07:49 GMT
I’d still give him next season at this point I don’t think we’ve got much to lose other than another season in the championship . You’re asking a new manager to come in and sign half a new team. MON is probably the best places to replace those we will lose at the end of the season. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Best joke ever. I try
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Post by greystokie on Mar 16, 2022 22:08:27 GMT
I’d still give him next season at this point I don’t think we’ve got much to lose other than another season in the championship . You’re asking a new manager to come in and sign half a new team. MON is probably the best places to replace those we will lose at the end of the season. What is it you see in MON that makes you think he is capable of doing something with our calamitous defence? It isn't as though we've gone all shitshow there over the last couple of games. The same players are culpable and make the same mistakes game after game but the manager doesn't seem capable of coming up with a solution to the obvious problems.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 16, 2022 22:08:50 GMT
Why? Based on what? He won’t sign the kind of midfielder we clearly need. He doesn’t value physicality anywhere on the park. He keeps signing strikers who are incapable of doing the job we need them to do. He got baker though who look exactly like the sort of midfielder I’d want at the club. If we can get 2-3 more players like him we will be laughing. If he gets 2-3 more like Chester were probably fooked. Either way I’d probably give him the season let him see out the last year of his 5 year plan What’s going to change though? How many managers get out of a tailspin like this? Baker is a bit of an exception really and as good as he is, we still need a proper monster of a DM as well.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 16, 2022 22:09:37 GMT
Another season falling in to a sad sorry damp squid. A season which offered so much a one point may only be remembered for a very good clear out of dead wood. As for MON, I'd keep him, give him the summer of realistic business as opposed to the pressure to offload and balance the books we've seen this season and judge him at the end of January 2023. Constant change has not worked well for us. A little stability may be beneficial for all involved. The stability of losing every week?
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Post by greenhoff on Mar 16, 2022 22:10:17 GMT
I’d still give him next season at this point I don’t think we’ve got much to lose other than another season in the championship . You’re asking a new manager to come in and sign half a new team. MON is probably the best places to replace those we will lose at the end of the season. We have an awful lot to lose.
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Post by greystokie on Mar 16, 2022 22:12:33 GMT
Why? Based on what? He won’t sign the kind of midfielder we clearly need. He doesn’t value physicality anywhere on the park. He keeps signing strikers who are incapable of doing the job we need them to do. He got baker though who look exactly like the sort of midfielder I’d want at the club. If we can get 2-3 more players like him we will be laughing. If he gets 2-3 more like Chester were probably fooked. Either way I’d probably give him the season let him see out the last year of his 5 year plan Did he get Baker, or was it the lad that departed for Millwall who spotted him?
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Mar 16, 2022 22:13:22 GMT
Anybody saying give him next season are living in cloud cuckoo land. We will be relegated next season with this clown in charge. Get him out now & for gods sake bring in a manager who knows what he is doing either Nuno or Big Sam.
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Post by onionman on Mar 16, 2022 22:15:33 GMT
He got baker though who look exactly like the sort of midfielder I’d want at the club. If we can get 2-3 more players like him we will be laughing. If he gets 2-3 more like Chester were probably fooked. Either way I’d probably give him the season let him see out the last year of his 5 year plan What’s going to change though? How many managers get out of a tailspin like this? Baker is a bit of an exception really and as good as he is, we still need a proper monster of a DM as well. We don’t even need a proper monster. I’d settle for a troll from a Disney movie.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 22:16:17 GMT
Surprised to see a few still burying their heads in the sand.
Its beyond doubt now, surely?
The only conceivable decision can be the finances surrounding getting rid of MON.
If we move now, we give the new manager a bit of time to get to know the squad and start the groundwork for next season.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Mar 16, 2022 22:16:50 GMT
At any other club he’d be long gone
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Post by march4 on Mar 16, 2022 22:16:56 GMT
I was hoping we would have had a club announcement by now.
This can’t go on.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Mar 16, 2022 22:21:17 GMT
I’d still give him next season at this point I don’t think we’ve got much to lose other than another season in the championship . You’re asking a new manager to come in and sign half a new team. MON is probably the best places to replace those we will lose at the end of the season. Unbelievable Jeff. He has signed 26 bloody players to date and you think he is capable of bringing in a load more now that will improve us. Not a hope in hell.
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Post by generationex on Mar 16, 2022 22:24:43 GMT
The next recruitment round defines our next 5 years.
MON wants players that ‘play the right way’.
Whatever that means I’m not keen on giving him the chance to find out.
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Post by peepin on Mar 16, 2022 22:29:13 GMT
Does anybody know what the stats were for the last 19 games of Joneses tenure??
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Post by HarryTheHat on Mar 16, 2022 22:31:43 GMT
I’d still give him next season at this point I don’t think we’ve got much to lose other than another season in the championship . You’re asking a new manager to come in and sign half a new team. MON is probably the best places to replace those we will lose at the end of the season. Despite all the evidence to the contrary?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 22:40:01 GMT
Does anybody know what the stats were for the last 19 games of Joneses tenure?? FullerMagic ?
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Post by shrewspotter on Mar 16, 2022 22:42:59 GMT
I genuinely think we are relegation candidates next season unless we act let alone play off contenders
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 16, 2022 22:43:27 GMT
Another season falling in to a sad sorry damp squid. A season which offered so much a one point may only be remembered for a very good clear out of dead wood. As for MON, I'd keep him, give him the summer of realistic business as opposed to the pressure to offload and balance the books we've seen this season and judge him at the end of January 2023. Constant change has not worked well for us. A little stability may be beneficial for all involved. We need a manager who can make better use of his team and sign better players. If we let O'Neill rebuild the team we will be stuck with his choices long after he leaves. He needs to be replaced right now.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 16, 2022 22:53:14 GMT
Does anybody know what the stats were for the last 19 games of Joneses tenure?? FullerMagic ? Worse than that by the looks of it, so we aren't quite in Nath territory yet! P 19 W 2 D 6 L 11 Pts 12
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