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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 11, 2022 9:39:15 GMT
In. With 11 games to go we've got nothing to win or lose until the end of the season. Having quickly replaced four managers since we were relegated, it doesn't give me any confidence that things would get better if the Board sacked MON, and I'm getting sick and tired of this merry-go-round, which seems to be getting us nowhere. OS. My thoughts entirely, Mick. I would certainly give him until the end of the season and then reassess the situation. Although we have had a pretty dramatic poor run of results and patchy form there have been one or two bright spots in terms of performances and I hope MON can find a way of making those bright spots closer to the norm rather than the exception. If he can't do that, then the best time to replace him is at the end of the season to give a new man the longest possible lead in to his first competitive game. The other thing I need to know is how our FFP situation will look in the summer. If there are still residual FFP problems then our hopes of attracting the best possible manager look to be dim until FFP is finally off our backs. Given the FFP situation when MON arrived I am surprised we managed to attract anyone who could save us from the drop.
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Post by nott1 on Mar 11, 2022 10:59:28 GMT
We want a manager who failed at Norwich, why? He got them out of this division Something MON will never do Thanks Mystic Meg
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 11, 2022 13:46:11 GMT
In,not a great deal in it at the moment,if it was 3/4 or more either way,fare enough,but it's not. If the vote is this close,is it worth the risk changing the manager? Not that the Coates family give a toss about this vote.
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 11, 2022 14:16:34 GMT
In even though it's gradually looking like MON doesn't have waht it takes to get a team promoted. He is a relatively safe pair of hands to ensure mid table finishes while he is here. I would suspect the board have no appetite to look for a replacement in the coming months. My main concern is the boards poor record of recruiting managers. It's more than likley that we would bin MON only to replace hime with something worse. It has happened many times before. I think we are stuck with MON until the Hearts manager position becomes available. Him and Hearts would be a perfect fit.
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Post by Billy the kid on Mar 11, 2022 18:33:41 GMT
I voted in on the basis that I cant see any other manager who is out of a job currently that would A) Want the job or B) better than what we have. The whole rebuilt process is so close to being complete, as in FFP, high earners etc off the books, and promising young talent starting to come through. I firmly believe that given where we are in the league, its completely pointless to make the change now and he has to see the season out and then we can reassess.
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Post by salfordstokie on Mar 12, 2022 0:42:54 GMT
Regrettably, I voted Out.
I'll be honest and say I'm not sure who could come in (Farke maybe?), but it cannot carry on like this. I just dont see a way forward under MON. Did a great job at the beginning but has now run his course. 2.5 years is probably above average in the modern era to be fair.
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Post by trincostokie on Mar 12, 2022 11:31:30 GMT
I'm curious as to whether this is a moot point anyway, given how close we remain to falling foul of the financial fair play regulations and given that to get rid of M.O'N would likely push us over the edge. Another reason why FFP needs some serious reviewing...it'd surely contravene some workplace law if a club were forced to hold onto a manager they no longer wanted on account of knowing they would be financially punished as a result. FFP is not an issue as far as sacking MON is concerned. Any cost would come through into this season and we are fine after the Collins sale. All of the financial hit was taken in the 2019/20 and 2020/21 accounts. As 2021/22 replaces 2017/18 in the FFP rolling calculation and we lost £35 million in 2017/18, FFP is not be an issue affecting whether or not we sack the manager and most manager sackings spread the cost over time anyway. If he stays, it is because the owners believe he should, there is nothing stopping them removing him. Chiswickpotter, who is really good on the financial stuff, says it wouldn't be an issue. Cheers FM, cheers Chiswick
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Post by stokeoptimist on Mar 12, 2022 20:56:19 GMT
In. We will never achieve anything with short term appointments, convinced he is still the best option!
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 13, 2022 6:55:23 GMT
Out. Farke and Bielsa currently out of work. Both would be improvements. Both would have ten or so free games to assess the squad before the end of the season. Ideal. Bet we leave it too late. Again. You might not of noticed, but our owners don't employ any managers other than British ones
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Post by a on Mar 13, 2022 7:41:04 GMT
182 people happy with those performances, must have zero ambition….
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Post by stokeoptimist on Mar 13, 2022 16:53:45 GMT
182 people happy with those performances, must have zero ambition…. 240 people that keep changing the manager expecting a different result
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Post by a on Mar 13, 2022 17:08:30 GMT
182 people happy with those performances, must have zero ambition…. 240 people that keep changing the manager expecting a different result Too right. No two managers are the same, O’Neill has had plenty of time and if anything, we are going backwards, so it makes sense to change the manager. We change manager and yes it could get worse (can’t be much worse given our recent form), or we could do much much better. I’d rather roll the dice than live in fear that we might go further backwards.
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 14, 2022 15:19:16 GMT
Out. Farke and Bielsa currently out of work. Both would be improvements. Both would have ten or so free games to assess the squad before the end of the season. Ideal. Bet we leave it too late. Again. Both sacked for recent failures?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 14, 2022 22:50:26 GMT
182 people happy with those performances, must have zero ambition…. 240 people that keep changing the manager expecting a different result Keep changing the manager? He’s been here 3 years and unfortunately is taking the team nowhere. Time to go
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Post by kustokie on Mar 15, 2022 12:13:49 GMT
In. With 11 games to go we've got nothing to win or lose until the end of the season. Having quickly replaced four managers since we were relegated, it doesn't give me any confidence that things would get better if the Board sacked MON, and I'm getting sick and tired of this merry-go-round, which seems to be getting us nowhere. OS. not true. Finishing strong is a great recruiting tool. Finishing poorly sends the message that we headed in the wrong direction, which right now we are.
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Post by Royal Donut on Mar 15, 2022 12:52:48 GMT
We sack the manager and the bext one comes in complains they aren't his players and we have give him time and we go round the merry go round again. We sack the manager and get in a manager that everyone thinks is sh!t and we are negative from the off, if I had a crystal ball I'd let you know what's best. Unfortunately we as fans don't know what's going on behind closed doors,yes we can guess and think it's simple but it's not always the case. I was moaning the other week wright- philps not playing, then find out he might be getting punished for something or another, which I can't argue with, initially I thought it was bad management and ended up I was wrong.
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Post by felonious on Mar 15, 2022 12:53:18 GMT
182 people happy with those performances, must have zero ambition…. 240 people that keep changing the manager expecting a different result 20,000 Don't knows
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Post by liathroid on Mar 16, 2022 21:41:08 GMT
IN
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 16, 2022 21:50:43 GMT
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Post by liathroid on Mar 16, 2022 22:26:45 GMT
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Post by robstokie on Mar 16, 2022 23:13:27 GMT
Tonight has swung it for me - has to go. Tonight was pathetic, we look like a team who are out of ideas, bloated with deadwood and have no spine. To lose is bad enough, but to lose to a shite side like them without showing any spine, heart or willingness to even bother doing the basics right says that the manager has lost the dressing room!
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Post by Mystic Stokie on Mar 16, 2022 23:17:04 GMT
OUT
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Post by Eggybread on Mar 20, 2022 8:11:54 GMT
In. One more go.
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Post by cheshirepotter on Mar 20, 2022 18:09:29 GMT
In
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Mar 21, 2022 13:10:04 GMT
No improvement on last season....OUT
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Mar 21, 2022 22:51:00 GMT
IN for this season at least
And the ex Norwich manager can FARKE off !
Injuries did us till January
Then another bout of injuries took away our replacement senior defenders (current young defenders still unproven)
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Post by iamstokie on Apr 5, 2022 21:10:33 GMT
He’s got to go
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