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Post by Pugsley on Mar 27, 2024 12:21:25 GMT
As it stands at the moment, for me, it'd be ... Pickford Walker Stones Branthwaite (possibly Colwill) Trippier (possibly Chilwell) Rice Bellingham (possibly Mainoo) Saka Foden (possibly Bellingham) Rashford (possibly Foden) Kane Against B&H, I'd like to see Trippier, Branthwaite, Colwill, Rashford and Palmer, all given serious minutes and Bellingham played as an 8. Yeah, don't think you can chain Bellingham to a role. He wants to be involved everywhere and it would be counter productive to restrict him. He's just too good for that. Let him roam like Messi. I agree with your team but would have Maguire at the back alongside Stones. Massive threat from set plays and better than most alternatives. If we lose Stones, Rice, Walker or Kane then we're largely fucked. Agree. Although a lot played OK last night, we lacked international quality in forward areas. Toney and Bowen in particular. They did OK but weight of pass, awareness, touch wasn't top quality. I'd take Toney over Watkins for penalties if there was a choice.
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Mar 27, 2024 12:32:52 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 27, 2024 12:32:52 GMT
Who ever said that about Bellingham? What a ridiculous post as per usual Werrington from you Whoooosh
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 27, 2024 12:32:54 GMT
You can just see a snippet of Foden as well.
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2024 12:38:01 GMT
Yeah, don't think you can chain Bellingham to a role. He wants to be involved everywhere and it would be counter productive to restrict him. He's just too good for that. Let him roam like Messi. I agree with your team but would have Maguire at the back alongside Stones. Massive threat from set plays and better than most alternatives. If we lose Stones, Rice, Walker or Kane then we're largely fucked. Agree. Although a lot played OK last night, we lacked international quality in forward areas. Toney and Bowen in particular. They did OK but weight of pass, awareness, touch wasn't top quality. I'd take Toney over Watkins for penalties if there was a choice. Thought Bowen was pretty good he might not be as silky smooth as Foden but still good quality and a goal threat Probably only make the squad if others are injured but don't mind him at all, against anybody too If our central defensive options were strong England would be favourites as they are not would put us second behind France still
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Mar 27, 2024 12:39:27 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 27, 2024 12:39:27 GMT
Agree. Although a lot played OK last night, we lacked international quality in forward areas. Toney and Bowen in particular. They did OK but weight of pass, awareness, touch wasn't top quality. I'd take Toney over Watkins for penalties if there was a choice. Thought Bowen was pretty good he might not be as silky smooth as Foden but still good quality and a goal threat Probably only make the squad if others are injured but don't mind him at all, against anybody too If our central defensive options were strong England would be favourites as they are not would put us second behind France still Bowen and Toney were excellent as England were in general going forward Good times await
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Mar 27, 2024 12:40:50 GMT
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2024 12:40:50 GMT
Thought Bowen was pretty good he might not be as silky smooth as Foden but still good quality and a goal threat Probably only make the squad if others are injured but don't mind him at all, against anybody too If our central defensive options were strong England would be favourites as they are not would put us second behind France still Bowen and Toney were excellent as England were in general going forward Good times await Can see the point re quality both are merely good threats rather than the highest quality like Bellingham and Foden are
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Mar 27, 2024 12:42:54 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 27, 2024 12:42:54 GMT
Bowen and Toney were excellent as England were in general going forward Good times await Can see the point re quality both are merely good threats rather than the highest quality like Bellingham and Foden are Saka,Grealish,Kane all forward options and all unavailable last night It’s scary
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Mar 27, 2024 12:43:55 GMT
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2024 12:43:55 GMT
Gordon was excellent v Brazil Paul And Palmer has been incredible all season Mick. He deserved his chance. Wide left? Don’t see it so much Palmer is clearly having an outstanding season (in an average side too) but isn't going to get ahead of Foden or Saka for wide right spot He could get in as cover for Bellingham behind Kane Looks like he will miss out barring injury
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2024 12:47:59 GMT
Can see the point re quality both are merely good threats rather than the highest quality like Bellingham and Foden are Saka,Grealish,Kane all forward options and all unavailable last night It’s scary Sterling, Palmer probably won't make the squad Sancho appears to recovering from at Dortmund Rashford, for all his critics, when on form is a threat against any side anywhere Lots of talent in the last third Kane, Bellingham and Foden is enough to scare any side Shame we have one top class player in Stones and about 5 or 6 average choices at CB
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Mar 27, 2024 12:54:16 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 27, 2024 12:54:16 GMT
Saka,Grealish,Kane all forward options and all unavailable last night It’s scary Sterling, Palmer probably won't make the squad Sancho appears to recovering from at Dortmund Rashford, for all his critics, when on form is a threat against any side anywhere Lots of talent in the last third Kane, Bellingham and Foden is enough to scare any side Shame we have one top class player in Stones and about 5 or 6 average choices at CB Talking of defenders last night
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Mar 27, 2024 12:55:40 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 27, 2024 12:55:40 GMT
And Palmer has been incredible all season Mick. He deserved his chance. Wide left? Don’t see it so much Palmer is clearly having an outstanding season (in an average side too) but isn't going to get ahead of Foden or Saka for wide right spot He could get in as cover for Bellingham behind Kane Looks like he will miss out barring injury No, he would have played on the right and Foden wouldn't have needed to swap wings, as he did when Gordon came on. Foden WILL play on the left when everybody is fit, Palmer is the perfect player to cover a Saka injury.
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Mar 27, 2024 13:05:07 GMT
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2024 13:05:07 GMT
Wide left? Don’t see it so much Palmer is clearly having an outstanding season (in an average side too) but isn't going to get ahead of Foden or Saka for wide right spot He could get in as cover for Bellingham behind Kane Looks like he will miss out barring injury No, he would have played on the right and Foden wouldn't have needed to swap wings, as he did when Gordon came on. Foden WILL play on the left when everybody is fit, Palmer is the perfect player to cover a Saka injury. You 100% sure? Will he not play Grealish on the left, Foden on the right and leave Saka on the bench? Certainly those 3 are the choices for the wide roles That leaves Rashford, Gordon, Palmer and even Sterling competing for one spot in the squad I think he will take Rashford I'd have Palmer in the squad instead of Maddison
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 27, 2024 13:08:26 GMT
No, he would have played on the right and Foden wouldn't have needed to swap wings, as he did when Gordon came on. Foden WILL play on the left when everybody is fit, Palmer is the perfect player to cover a Saka injury. You 100% sure? Will he not play Grealish on the left, Foden on the right and leave Saka on the bench? Certainly those 3 are the choices for the wide roles That leaves Rashford, Gordon, Palmer and even Sterling competing for one spot in the squad I think he will take Rashford I'd have Palmer in the squad instead of Maddison 100% sure, there is absolutely no chance Saka doesn't start and certainly not to accommodate Grealish. Saka is one of the first names on the team sheet and I'll be gobsmacked if Grealish even goes, he's had a poor season this season (when he's actually played that is). For me, it would be Kane Toney Saka Palmer Foden Rashford
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 27, 2024 13:24:38 GMT
You 100% sure? Will he not play Grealish on the left, Foden on the right and leave Saka on the bench? Certainly those 3 are the choices for the wide roles That leaves Rashford, Gordon, Palmer and even Sterling competing for one spot in the squad I think he will take Rashford I'd have Palmer in the squad instead of Maddison 100% sure, there is absolutely no chance Saka doesn't start and certainly not to accommodate Grealish. Saka is one of the first names on the team sheet and I'll be gobsmacked if Grealish even goes, he's had a poor season this season (when he's actually played that is). For me, it would be Kane Toney Saka Palmer Foden Rashford Isn't the squad now 26 instead of the 23 we've seen in the past? If so there might be more wiggle room to include the likes of Grealish, Watkins or Bowen. I like Grealish, he can beat a man and draws fouls BUT he has an average season. EDIT - looks like training squad can be bigger but final squad is 23. Tricky one for the manager in every position.
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2024 15:19:37 GMT
You 100% sure? Will he not play Grealish on the left, Foden on the right and leave Saka on the bench? Certainly those 3 are the choices for the wide roles That leaves Rashford, Gordon, Palmer and even Sterling competing for one spot in the squad I think he will take Rashford I'd have Palmer in the squad instead of Maddison 100% sure, there is absolutely no chance Saka doesn't start and certainly not to accommodate Grealish. Saka is one of the first names on the team sheet and I'll be gobsmacked if Grealish even goes, he's had a poor season this season (when he's actually played that is). For me, it would be Kane Toney Saka Palmer Foden Rashford Unless he's injured I'd be gobsmacked if Grealish isn't in the squad Southgate is not one for over worrying about club record for what he sees as his core England players
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 27, 2024 15:29:54 GMT
Sterling, Palmer probably won't make the squad Sancho appears to recovering from at Dortmund Rashford, for all his critics, when on form is a threat against any side anywhere Lots of talent in the last third Kane, Bellingham and Foden is enough to scare any side Shame we have one top class player in Stones and about 5 or 6 average choices at CB Talking of defenders last night Great pass though.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 27, 2024 15:31:29 GMT
You 100% sure? Will he not play Grealish on the left, Foden on the right and leave Saka on the bench? Certainly those 3 are the choices for the wide roles That leaves Rashford, Gordon, Palmer and even Sterling competing for one spot in the squad I think he will take Rashford I'd have Palmer in the squad instead of Maddison 100% sure, there is absolutely no chance Saka doesn't start and certainly not to accommodate Grealish. Saka is one of the first names on the team sheet and I'll be gobsmacked if Grealish even goes, he's had a poor season this season (when he's actually played that is). For me, it would be Kane Toney Saka Palmer Foden Rashford Palmer really should go, he's fantastic. He's confident in his own ability and a great option off the bench in a couple of positions.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 27, 2024 15:45:24 GMT
100% sure, there is absolutely no chance Saka doesn't start and certainly not to accommodate Grealish. Saka is one of the first names on the team sheet and I'll be gobsmacked if Grealish even goes, he's had a poor season this season (when he's actually played that is). For me, it would be Kane Toney Saka Palmer Foden Rashford Palmer really should go, he's fantastic. He's confident in his own ability and a great option off the bench in a couple of positions. It will be an utter travesty if he doesn't go, he is currently one of the best players in the Premiership, regardless of nationality.
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 27, 2024 16:17:17 GMT
Currently I'd go with this as the strongest team, but we really need to find a better CB than Maguire.
Pickford
Walker Stones Maguire Shaw
Mainoo Rice
Saka Bellingham Foden
Kane
Rest of the squad: GK Ramsdale, Johnstone DF: Alexander-Arnold, Chilwell, Gomez, Branthwaite MF: Henderson, Palmer, Maddison, Bowen S: Toney, Watkins
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Mar 27, 2024 16:35:46 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 27, 2024 16:35:46 GMT
Mainoo was excellent and is excellent but cmon let’s back up a bit as it’s only one game
First choice starter?…..I’ll reserve judgement
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 27, 2024 16:46:12 GMT
Johnstone injured apparently and will miss out. Time for Jack?
I'd be surprised if Mainoo starts in the first game. He may go with Henderson for the first hour or Trant...
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Mar 27, 2024 17:14:44 GMT
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2024 17:14:44 GMT
Mainoo was excellent and is excellent but cmon let’s back up a bit as it’s only one game First choice starter?…..I’ll reserve judgement He was as impressive as he could have been think he's got himself on the plane at least Rice, Mainoo, Bellingham seemed to fit nicely been arguing TAA should be in there but Mainoo might get in the team ahead TAA definitely in the squad barring injury
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 27, 2024 17:53:38 GMT
Pickford
Walker Stones Guehi Trippier
Rice Alexander Arnold Bellingham
Saka Kane Foden
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Post by alsagerstokie on Mar 27, 2024 20:17:03 GMT
I think we all agree Rashford should be nowhere near the euros
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 27, 2024 20:28:20 GMT
I think we all agree Rashford should be nowhere near the euros Well, I may be in the minority but I think Rashford should be on the plane. Serving free dinners😉 (joke for anyone of a permanently offended disposition) He’s done pretty well for England and I think he’s a big game player. I know, I know but it’s just what I think. He’s very quick and very useful as a sub when chasing a game.
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Post by onepara on Mar 27, 2024 20:33:26 GMT
Mainoo was excellent and is excellent but cmon let’s back up a bit as it’s only one game First choice starter?…..I’ll reserve judgement You obviously haven't seen him playing for Man. U.
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Mar 27, 2024 20:36:41 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 27, 2024 20:36:41 GMT
Mainoo was excellent and is excellent but cmon let’s back up a bit as it’s only one game First choice starter?…..I’ll reserve judgement You obviously haven't seen him playing for Man. U. I’ve said he’s excellent and praised him …You’ve lost me? My point was given the talent England have it’s best to just take it easy in regards to him being a starter after one match
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 27, 2024 20:37:44 GMT
Mainoo was excellent and is excellent but cmon let’s back up a bit as it’s only one game First choice starter?…..I’ll reserve judgement You obviously haven't seen him playing for Man. U. He’s a star for sure, there’s always one young un that gets picked. He’s got all the tools. He’s on the plane for me. You can just tell he will be there for years to come
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Mar 27, 2024 20:41:49 GMT
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2024 20:41:49 GMT
Mainoo was excellent and is excellent but cmon let’s back up a bit as it’s only one game First choice starter?…..I’ll reserve judgement You obviously haven't seen him playing for Man. U. It was an outstanding performance and he's probably made the squad on the back of it, but it is only 1 game Would presume he will start one of the warm up games but don't think he's nailed on to start the tournament just yet knocking on the door very loudly mind
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 28, 2024 0:30:13 GMT
So simple but so funny..
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