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England
Nov 14, 2024 23:00:50 GMT
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 14, 2024 23:00:50 GMT
Who’s the DM? Rice can’t do it, who would be getting on the ball and controlling the pace of the game in that midfield? He’s a box to box man and with the way he’s been playing he wouldn’t be in my midfield at the minute He can. He should be at DM or if you think he can’t do that then centre half. Bellingham for the control? One of the best midfielders in the world? No issue with Gallagher as DM with Bellingham and Foden. We have good options. He can’t, it’s why he never plays that role for Arsenal. That’s not Bellinghams game though, that’s what I mean by trying to fit all the best players in the side. |
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England
Nov 14, 2024 23:09:01 GMT
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Post by stokieinlondon on Nov 14, 2024 23:09:01 GMT
So we don’t have a league programme because of that?
Good Jesus
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 14, 2024 23:12:37 GMT
He can. He should be at DM or if you think he can’t do that then centre half. Bellingham for the control? One of the best midfielders in the world? No issue with Gallagher as DM with Bellingham and Foden. We have good options. He can’t, it’s why he never plays that role for Arsenal. That’s not Bellinghams game though, that’s what I mean by trying to fit all the best players in the side. Bellingham can do anything. |
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England
Nov 14, 2024 23:13:35 GMT
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Post by mrnovember on Nov 14, 2024 23:13:35 GMT
What? Kane looked like an old man tonight and has done for so long for us. He can’t run. Watkins just lacks finesse. His touch is lacking. So that leaves what? Just keep playing either Kane or Watkins. They're fine. If we take this Nations League cycle: Games where Kane or Watkins have started as conventional forwards: P4 W4 G10:1 Games where neither have started and we played false 9. P1 L1 G1:2. In truth Greece could have scored about 6 that night. |
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Nov 14, 2024 23:19:40 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 14, 2024 23:19:40 GMT
What? Kane looked like an old man tonight and has done for so long for us. He can’t run. Watkins just lacks finesse. His touch is lacking. So that leaves what? Just keep playing either Kane or Watkins. They're fine. If we take this Nations League cycle: Games where Kane or Watkins have started as conventional forwards: P4 W4 G10:1 Games where neither have started and we played false 9. P1 L1 G1:2. In truth Greece could have scored about 6 that night. So you just write it off? Nah. It needs work. And they need to play it more often to get used to it. But it provides us with the best balance easily. I fucking detest Kane. I don’t like how he plays and think he’s a grade A twat so that’s a pretty easy decision for me. Watkins is difficult but he’s just not good enough to be starting regularly. Palmer, Foden and Bellingham are world class and you have to play them all. The only way is a false 10. |
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Nov 14, 2024 23:26:19 GMT
Just keep playing either Kane or Watkins. They're fine. If we take this Nations League cycle: Games where Kane or Watkins have started as conventional forwards: P4 W4 G10:1 Games where neither have started and we played false 9. P1 L1 G1:2. In truth Greece could have scored about 6 that night. So you just write it off? Nah. It needs work. And they need to play it more often to get used to it. But it provides us with the best balance easily. I fucking detest Kane. I don’t like how he plays and think he’s a grade A twat so that’s a pretty easy decision for me. Watkins is difficult but he’s just not good enough to be starting regularly. Palmer, Foden and Bellingham are world class and you have to play them all. The only way is a false 10. No other country on earth with those 3 talents in their national player pool wouldn’t work and find a way to get them playing together. Spain won trophies galore and didn’t use Torres much as he didn’t benefit the best possible system, even though at the time he was one of the best strikers on the planet. I think Tuchel won’t bottle it and play safe. I think he’ll actually go for it and benefit from the excellent group of players he has to choose from. |
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England
Nov 14, 2024 23:31:31 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 14, 2024 23:31:31 GMT
So you just write it off? Nah. It needs work. And they need to play it more often to get used to it. But it provides us with the best balance easily. I fucking detest Kane. I don’t like how he plays and think he’s a grade A twat so that’s a pretty easy decision for me. Watkins is difficult but he’s just not good enough to be starting regularly. Palmer, Foden and Bellingham are world class and you have to play them all. The only way is a false 10. No other country on earth with those 3 talents in their national player pool wouldn’t work and find a way to get them playing together. Spain won trophies galore and didn’t use Torres much as he didn’t benefit the best possible system, even though at the time he was one of the best strikers on the planet. I think Tuchel won’t bottle it and play safe. I think he’ll actually go for it and benefit from the excellent group of players he has to choose from. I hope so. And I hope he carries on where Carsley has started. Lewis, Gomes, Jones, Madueke and Gordon all need to carry on being given chances. We’ve got to give some of the young full backs game time too. And hope Branthwaite can get better. And as mad as it seems, Delap is a good 3 months away from being called up to this squad. |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 14, 2024 23:46:36 GMT
I really hope Foden is not considered for future games. We don't need him and he seemingly doesn't need England. 🤣🤣🤣 Foden has played 43 times for England, what has he done in those games? he's been consistently poor for the national team. We have loads of talent. |
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Nov 14, 2024 23:54:50 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 14, 2024 23:54:50 GMT
Foden has played 43 times for England, what has he done in those games? he's been consistently poor for the national team. We have loads of talent. We do and none so good as him. |
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Nov 15, 2024 0:57:12 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 15, 2024 0:57:12 GMT
Foden has played 43 times for England, what has he done in those games? he's been consistently poor for the national team. We have loads of talent. Thing is, he's the style of player who is often deemed to disappoint at international level. Similar to Barnes. It isn't just an English phenomenon either. Del Piero and Rivaldo were often considered to be underachievers too. Sebastian Deisler was a particularly sad story. It doesn't mean Phillip is a poor player but cut him slack bearing in mind in internationals different things are required. In the first half v Netherlands he was ace because he was doing what he does for his club. One point is though he's 24 now not a kid anymore. He's an established player who's won loads of medals. So hopefully we can see more of the Netherlands from him soon. |
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Post by biglad180 on Nov 15, 2024 10:08:45 GMT
it was nice to see wingers taking there man on for a change,,for me Saka keeps passing back most of the time he does not try beat is man,i can count on 1 hand how many good games Fodan has had in a England shirt,maybe it was a good thing for England these players cried off.
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Post by lordb on Nov 15, 2024 11:46:01 GMT
it was nice to see wingers taking there man on for a change,,for me Saka keeps passing back most of the time he does not try beat is man,i can count on 1 hand how many good games Fodan has had in a England shirt,maybe it was a good thing for England these players cried off. Saka goal & assist record for England is superb |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 15, 2024 12:17:42 GMT
England's problem is in the centre of the park. We don't have a Rhodri type who can protect the defence as well as dictate play against the top sides.
No idea what can be done about that.
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England
Nov 15, 2024 12:23:41 GMT
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 15, 2024 12:23:41 GMT
What? Kane looked like an old man tonight and has done for so long for us. He can’t run. Watkins just lacks finesse. His touch is lacking. So that leaves what? Watkins touches in the box are great, always looking to shoot if he gets half a chance - go back and look at his goal against the Dutch in the Euros to see finesse. If you’ve got the talent we have setting him up he’s a very good player for the job. |
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Nov 15, 2024 13:43:05 GMT
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 15, 2024 13:43:05 GMT
England's problem is in the centre of the park. We don't have a Rhodri type who can protect the defence as well as dictate play against the top sides. No idea what can be done about that. Correct, people think Rice is that but he’s so far from it, he’s never been able to dictate a game. It’s why he doesn’t play that role for Arsenal and why Southgate was insistent in playing Phillips alongside him for so long |
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Post by scfc1863 on Nov 15, 2024 15:01:26 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 15, 2024 17:31:01 GMT
Spain u21s v England u21s just kicking off now  |
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England
Nov 15, 2024 18:01:33 GMT
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 15, 2024 18:01:33 GMT
Although, an East German won the World Cup with West Germany - Helmut Schon for the 1974 World Cup. |
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Nov 15, 2024 18:07:28 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 15, 2024 18:07:28 GMT
Although, an East German won the World Cup with West Germany - Helmut Schon for the 1974 World Cup. Means nothing to Hasselhof |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 15, 2024 22:07:18 GMT
Although, an East German won the World Cup with West Germany - Helmut Schon for the 1974 World Cup. Means nothing to Hasselhof Understandable, man’s a trailblazer - no wall too big, no burger is a mountain |
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England
Nov 15, 2024 23:15:38 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 15, 2024 23:15:38 GMT
England's problem is in the centre of the park. We don't have a Rhodri type who can protect the defence as well as dictate play against the top sides. No idea what can be done about that. Bellingham would be good for that role. He has the mobility to support attack too |
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Nov 15, 2024 23:21:13 GMT
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 15, 2024 23:21:13 GMT
England's problem is in the centre of the park. We don't have a Rhodri type who can protect the defence as well as dictate play against the top sides. No idea what can be done about that. Bellingham would be good for that role. He has the mobility to support attack too Bellingham can finish his career in that position in ten years time, we need him further forward right now - he’s a man for the big moments. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 16, 2024 0:37:23 GMT
Bellingham would be good for that role. He has the mobility to support attack too Bellingham can finish his career in that position in ten years time, we need him further forward right now - he’s a man for the big moments. He's smart enough do it now and still contribute to attack. |
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Nov 16, 2024 12:02:18 GMT
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 16, 2024 12:02:18 GMT
Well with the exception of England (and I guess maybe Uruguay) I don’t think any of those nations have *ever* had a foreign manager. I doubt you’ll find any among the beaten finalists either. Top-tier tournament winning nations don’t appoint from overseas. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 16, 2024 12:04:41 GMT
Well with the exception of England (and I guess maybe Uruguay) I don’t think any of those nations have *ever* had a foreign manager. I doubt you’ll find any among the beaten finalists either. Top-tier tournament winning nations don’t appoint from overseas. Renhagel won the Euros though |
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Nov 16, 2024 12:25:50 GMT
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 16, 2024 12:25:50 GMT
Well with the exception of England (and I guess maybe Uruguay) I don’t think any of those nations have *ever* had a foreign manager. I doubt you’ll find any among the beaten finalists either. Top-tier tournament winning nations don’t appoint from overseas. Renhagel won the Euros though Yes, my point was more about the habits of the heavyweight footballing nations |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 16, 2024 12:33:55 GMT
Renhagel won the Euros though Yes, my point was more about the habits of the heavyweight footballing nations Yeah, fair point. It was an eye opener when Ancelotti was in the running to manage Brazil |
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Nov 16, 2024 13:22:16 GMT
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 16, 2024 13:22:16 GMT
Yes, my point was more about the habits of the heavyweight footballing nations Yeah, fair point. It was an eye opener when Ancelotti was in the running to manage Brazil I think I said on here there was zero chance it was ever going to happen for that very reason. I know Brazilian football fans! |
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