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England
Sept 8, 2024 10:14:15 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 8, 2024 10:14:15 GMT
The second half was poor for sure but I think it was a mix of slowing down and the manager not making the changes needed quick enough.
He has to find a system that doesn’t involve Harry Kane.
And I know I keep saying it but he’s sticking out like a sore thumb. He’s so ponderous in comparison to the others around him.
Kane is definitely the biggest issue moving forward.
The next one is that defence. Against a really poor attack we gave up too many chances. I don’t think any of them played particularly badly either tbh but we were lucky we were against such a shit team.
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England
Sept 8, 2024 10:18:17 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 8, 2024 10:18:17 GMT
Does anyone know if Ben White has changed his stance now Southgates fucked off or are there other issues relating to his non selection?
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Post by biglad180 on Sept 8, 2024 10:29:35 GMT
first harf was not to bad against a poor Irish side,second harf was dire,why don,t we keep attacking when we have teams on the ropes,this guy will not be any better than southgate, get rid now, we are so boring to watch at times its a joke get an attack minded manager in
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England
Sept 8, 2024 10:46:21 GMT
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Sept 8, 2024 10:46:21 GMT
Maybe Solanke gets a chance when fit? Defensively I’m not a fan of the Trent experiment and Reece James would get my vote. Guehi played well, Colwill was out of position and isn’t the future there and Stones coming back to fitness. I wouldn’t be too critical of the defence at this stage. I only hope Branthwaite doesn’t implode with Everton as he’s a possible too.
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Post by bettyswallox on Sept 8, 2024 10:47:16 GMT
The second half was poor for sure but I think it was a mix of slowing down and the manager not making the changes needed quick enough. He has to find a system that doesn’t involve Harry Kane. And I know I keep saying it but he’s sticking out like a sore thumb. He’s so ponderous in comparison to the others around him. Kane is definitely the biggest issue moving forward. The next one is that defence. Against a really poor attack we gave up too many chances. I don’t think any of them played particularly badly either tbh but we were lucky we were against such a shit team. Spot on regarding Kane. There were a number of examples of it but one that sticks in my mind is at about 80 minutes. England pressed high and won the ball back in a really dangerous position. It fell to Kane inside right channel 25 yards out in a 3 v 3 situation. Instead of making an angle or passing to someone making a run, he plods forward with it in a straight line for a few seconds, 2 or 3 Ireland players get back and he passes it backwards. Chance gone. Just incredibly slow in terms of speed of feet and thought.
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Post by tqstokie on Sept 8, 2024 10:55:37 GMT
International walking football, backwards and sideways bores me to tears. I don't know why people pay Mega pounds to watch it. Boycott it and bring the price down. England weren’t playing that stuff last night though were they As with any football match it takes two to make it a game The problem is the vast majority of teams won’t come out v England so it has to be trying to break them down It’s no different to us when Pulis was the manager v Manchester United or any of the big 4 away from home That’s not the fault of England Well IMHO they were. I seemed to me that when we had the ball more than 50% of the time we were pissing about in our own half. Doing that we made a few mistakes that a better team would have made us pay for. You don't break teams down by standing with the ball in your own half. Two nil up and comfortable at half time you would have thought they would run riot but no boring slow, slow, stop, stop slow.
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England
Sept 8, 2024 10:56:54 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 8, 2024 10:56:54 GMT
Does anyone know if Ben White has changed his stance now Southgates fucked off or are there other issues relating to his non selection? Apparently he's waiting for Carso to contact him to have a discussion
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England
Sept 8, 2024 19:32:55 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 8, 2024 19:32:55 GMT
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England
Sept 8, 2024 19:48:26 GMT
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Post by lordb on Sept 8, 2024 19:48:26 GMT
Does anyone know if Ben White has changed his stance now Southgates fucked off or are there other issues relating to his non selection? Apparently he's waiting for Carso to contact him to have a discussion He's got 3 or 4 players ahead of him for right back
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 8, 2024 19:52:14 GMT
Apparently he's waiting for Carso to contact him to have a discussion He's got 3 or 4 players ahead of him for right back Would he not be a member of the squad if he was available Lord? Who else is there? I think Walkers race is probably run, is James fit now? I’m not sure
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England
Sept 8, 2024 19:53:48 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 8, 2024 19:53:48 GMT
Apparently he's waiting for Carso to contact him to have a discussion He's got 3 or 4 players ahead of him for right back It's still worth contacting him to see how the land lies.
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England
Sept 8, 2024 19:55:05 GMT
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Post by lordb on Sept 8, 2024 19:55:05 GMT
He's got 3 or 4 players ahead of him for right back It's still worth contacting him to see how the land lies. Much rather have a look at Liveramento
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Sept 8, 2024 19:56:40 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 8, 2024 19:56:40 GMT
It's still worth contacting him to see how the land lies. Much rather have a look at Liveramento For some reason I thought he was a left back, not seen too much of him. But I’m all for getting youth into the side absolutely
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Sept 8, 2024 19:57:16 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 8, 2024 19:57:16 GMT
It's still worth contacting him to see how the land lies. Much rather have a look at Liveramento Several possibilities. All worthy of scrutiny
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England
Sept 8, 2024 19:57:48 GMT
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Post by lordb on Sept 8, 2024 19:57:48 GMT
He's got 3 or 4 players ahead of him for right back Would he not be a member of the squad if he was available Lord? Who else is there? I think Walkers race is probably run, is James fit now? I’m not sure Imo Walker hasn't lost any pace and is at his best now,got at least one more tournament if not two However even if that view isn't shared Alexander Arnold, Liveramento and Reece James (if he can find form and fitness) are better options Tbh I can't stand White he's an absolute ponce
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Sept 8, 2024 19:59:08 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 8, 2024 19:59:08 GMT
Would he not be a member of the squad if he was available Lord? Who else is there? I think Walkers race is probably run, is James fit now? I’m not sure Imo Walker hasn't lost any pace and is at his best now,got at least one more tournament if not two However even if that view isn't shared Alexander Arnold, Liveramento and Reece James (if he can find form and fitness) are better options Tbh I can't stand White he's an absolute ponce I know what you mean, what makes you say he’s a ponce? I quite like ponces as you know😉
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England
Sept 8, 2024 20:00:14 GMT
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Post by lordb on Sept 8, 2024 20:00:14 GMT
Imo Walker hasn't lost any pace and is at his best now,got at least one more tournament if not two However even if that view isn't shared Alexander Arnold, Liveramento and Reece James (if he can find form and fitness) are better options Tbh I can't stand White he's an absolute ponce I know what you mean, what makes you say he’s a ponce? I quite like ponces as you know😉 His face? His stupid goatee beard His rubbish tan His all round Arsenalness
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Sept 8, 2024 20:03:23 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 8, 2024 20:03:23 GMT
The second half was poor for sure but I think it was a mix of slowing down and the manager not making the changes needed quick enough. He has to find a system that doesn’t involve Harry Kane. And I know I keep saying it but he’s sticking out like a sore thumb. He’s so ponderous in comparison to the others around him. Kane is definitely the biggest issue moving forward. The next one is that defence. Against a really poor attack we gave up too many chances. I don’t think any of them played particularly badly either tbh but we were lucky we were against such a shit team. Nothing wrong with saying it now, we're all on board in 2024 (2020 not so much 😉) Defence wise, if we're going with: TAA Stones Geuhi ? We will give up chances, but we all want to see us going forward more.
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Sept 9, 2024 13:30:17 GMT
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 9, 2024 13:30:17 GMT
Much rather have a look at Liveramento For some reason I thought he was a left back, not seen too much of him. But I’m all for getting youth into the side absolutely He’s actually (naturally) a centre-back isn’t he??
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 9, 2024 14:21:59 GMT
Does anyone know if Ben White has changed his stance now Southgates fucked off or are there other issues relating to his non selection? Apparently he's waiting for Carso to contact him to have a discussion I'd fuck him off. You play for your country not the manager.
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Sept 9, 2024 15:19:10 GMT
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 9, 2024 15:19:10 GMT
Apparently he's waiting for Carso to contact him to have a discussion I'd fuck him off. You play for your country not the manager. Plus we really don’t need him
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 9, 2024 15:47:43 GMT
I don't know why folk are concerned about the 2nd half.
The game was over by the end of the first half, they just had to turn up to see it through and they have another game in a few days. Why bust a gut?
No big issue for me.
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Post by lordb on Sept 9, 2024 16:23:53 GMT
For some reason I thought he was a left back, not seen too much of him. But I’m all for getting youth into the side absolutely He’s actually (naturally) a centre-back isn’t he?? Ben White? he's a dreadful CB, rarely seen a top flight defender let the ball bounce as much he does he's got a good pass/cross & the odd goal in him
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England
Sept 9, 2024 16:24:54 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 9, 2024 16:24:54 GMT
He’s actually (naturally) a centre-back isn’t he?? Ben White? he's a dreadful CB, rarely seen a top flight defender let the ball bounce as much he does he's got a good pass/cross & the odd goal in him Livramento
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 10, 2024 9:29:10 GMT
Pickford
TAA Konsa Stones Lewis
Gomes Rice
Saka Grealish Gordon
Kane
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 10, 2024 11:27:53 GMT
Until we can get a bloke who can control midfield we'll win nowt. If Rodri was English we would have walked the Euros.
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Sept 10, 2024 11:43:36 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 10, 2024 11:43:36 GMT
Games is an exciting possibility
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Sept 10, 2024 17:53:03 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 10, 2024 17:53:03 GMT
The second half was poor for sure but I think it was a mix of slowing down and the manager not making the changes needed quick enough. He has to find a system that doesn’t involve Harry Kane. And I know I keep saying it but he’s sticking out like a sore thumb. He’s so ponderous in comparison to the others around him. Kane is definitely the biggest issue moving forward. The next one is that defence. Against a really poor attack we gave up too many chances. I don’t think any of them played particularly badly either tbh but we were lucky we were against such a shit team. Nothing wrong with saying it now, we're all on board in 2024 (2020 not so much 😉) Defence wise, if we're going with: TAA Stones Geuhi ? We will give up chances, but we all want to see us going forward more. It’s the same arguments then though as it is now and the only thing that has changed is he got slower and deeper. The issues are the same. He’s always been this hinderance to the team.
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Post by wrighter on Sept 10, 2024 18:02:03 GMT
Is Pickford bloody undropabble FFS
Rather have Pope anyday
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Post by tqstokie on Sept 10, 2024 18:22:31 GMT
I don't know why folk are concerned about the 2nd half. The game was over by the end of the first half, they just had to turn up to see it through and they have another game in a few days. Why bust a gut? No big issue for me. Because people have paid good money to be entertained by a good team performance. If the people don't come to watch the over paid prima donnas will be out of work.
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