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Post by adri2008 on Jul 13, 2024 15:45:23 GMT
I'd probably start the same team. Watkins and Shaw are potential game changers - a heavy legged Kane and Trippier aren't if we are chasing the game Fantastic options off the bench, Palmer, Toney, Watkins, Shaw even Eze and Alexander Arnold Think we might have a stronger bench than Spain? Southgate got subs spot on last game but generally waits too long Hopefully he gets it right tomorrow Spain have the better 1st team but we have a much stronger overall squad imo. Hopefully it will prove decisive and we don't play overly defensive which I suspect will be the temptation i.e. keep it tight and then hit tiring legs with our subs.
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Post by lordb on Jul 13, 2024 15:48:09 GMT
Fantastic options off the bench, Palmer, Toney, Watkins, Shaw even Eze and Alexander Arnold Think we might have a stronger bench than Spain? Southgate got subs spot on last game but generally waits too long Hopefully he gets it right tomorrow Spain have the better 1st team but we have a much stronger overall squad imo. Hopefully it will prove decisive and we don't play overly defensive which I suspect will be the temptation i.e. keep it tight and then hit tiring legs with our subs. Spain were more cautious v Germany, think they will approach it similar to that match Going to come down to tiny details and who has the killers in their side (seen The Killers supporting World of....)
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Post by bingbang on Jul 13, 2024 16:13:05 GMT
Brilliant England song don't know how to post video. To the tune of anywhere alone beautiful south. We've been to Dusseldorf and Dortmund, Frankfurt and Cologne, We're on our way to Berlin football's coming home, football's coming home.
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Post by milton58 on Jul 13, 2024 16:32:39 GMT
Brilliant England song don't know how to post video. To the tune of anywhere alone beautiful south. We've been to Dusseldorf and Dortmund, Frankfurt and Cologne, We're on our way to Berlin football's coming home, football's coming home. quality that is England singing it in berlin
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Jul 13, 2024 17:20:47 GMT
No idea why, but I felt the same on Wednesday and it came true.
I think we'll play really well and win in 90 minutes.
Spain have comfortably been the most consistent and best team this competition, but I think the media are sucking them off a bit too much. Like we have, they rode their luck against Germany and France at times.
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Post by olias on Jul 13, 2024 17:29:43 GMT
I trust that any Spanish fans that English fans come across, get thoroughly drenched with water pistols. Double points if they're sitting down having paella.
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 13, 2024 17:34:31 GMT
Same team. Nowt so certain. And you can't blame him really.
We've got to stifle Rodri and man mark the kiddie.
If Rodri dictates the pace we will get blown away.
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Post by neckender78 on Jul 13, 2024 18:18:42 GMT
Brilliant England song don't know how to post video. To the tune of anywhere alone beautiful south. We've been to Dusseldorf and Dortmund, Frankfurt and Cologne, We're on our way to Berlin football's coming home, football's coming home. Great tune but reckon Stoke's late 90s version was just better. You go to Anfield or Goodison, Chelsea in the smoke, Birmingham or Millwall but ya never come to Stoke, ya never come to Stoke
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Jul 13, 2024 18:22:59 GMT
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 13, 2024 18:22:59 GMT
I hate it when we say it's coming home.
Every bloody tournament & it doesnt come home.
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Jul 13, 2024 18:37:49 GMT
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Post by bigvern on Jul 13, 2024 18:37:49 GMT
I hate it when we say it's coming home. Every bloody tournament & it doesnt come home. Only 26 hours until it comes home.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 13, 2024 19:40:20 GMT
Watching the 66 World Cup final earlier. When it was the 50th anniversary there was some programs on reminiscing. I found them show’s really moving and deeply depressing. It was only a month after the Iceland calamity. At that point it really felt like we’d never ever even get close to a trophy. So, on the eve of a final, another final, it’d be daft to say we haven’t improved during the Southo reign. However infuriating he can be. And perhaps this time it really will come home.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jul 13, 2024 21:07:29 GMT
Have we had anybody claiming they'd rather Stoke won a friendly at Cork than England win the Euros yet?
Always laugh at the micropenis energy of those folk.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 13, 2024 21:18:47 GMT
Have we had anybody claiming they'd rather Stoke won a friendly at Cork than England win the Euros yet? Always laugh at the micropenis energy of those folk. Rubbish. I’d take a draw at Cork.
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Jul 13, 2024 21:21:27 GMT
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 13, 2024 21:21:27 GMT
Watching the 66 World Cup final earlier. When it was the 50th anniversary there was some programs on reminiscing. I found them show’s really moving and deeply depressing. It was only a month after the Iceland calamity. At that point it really felt like we’d never ever even get close to a trophy. So, on the eve of a final, another final, it’d be daft to say we haven’t improved during the Southo reign. However infuriating he can be. And perhaps this time it really will come home. As much as I would love us to lift the trophy tomorrow I just can't see past a Spain win. Too much pace, energy and skill for us. I remember sitting in a Butlins cinema in 1970 with my mates as a 16 year old and seeing my football World collapse in the space of a few minutes as Bonetti and Muller destroyed my dreams after a magical period of England domination. Never been the same since. 😁
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 13, 2024 21:23:04 GMT
Have we had anybody claiming they'd rather Stoke won a friendly at Cork than England win the Euros yet? Always laugh at the micropenis energy of those folk. On twitter the other day some tosser was asking if you’d prefer your rival to be relegated or England 🏴 to win the trophy. Went on to say anyone who’d prefer to win the trophy wasn’t a genuine supporter .
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 13, 2024 21:31:14 GMT
Watching the 66 World Cup final earlier. When it was the 50th anniversary there was some programs on reminiscing. I found them show’s really moving and deeply depressing. It was only a month after the Iceland calamity. At that point it really felt like we’d never ever even get close to a trophy. So, on the eve of a final, another final, it’d be daft to say we haven’t improved during the Southo reign. However infuriating he can be. And perhaps this time it really will come home. As much as I would love us to lift the trophy tomorrow I just can't see past a Spain win. Too much pace, energy and skill for us. I remember sitting in a Butlins cinema in 1970 with my mates as a 16 year old and seeing my football World collapse in the space of a few minutes as Bonetti and Muller destroyed my dreams after a magical period of England domination. Never been the same since. 😁 If you look at all the World and European competition finals England's men and women have been in across all the main team sports - football, cricket and rugby - we win one in three on average. We're not really a nation that wins things in team sports that often. So I wouldn't be too hopeful tomorrow. Also, if you take the Euros 2020 (lost), womens Euros 2021 (won) and tomorrow's final as the third in that series the odds are more likely that it'll be a loss if that pattern continues. Would love to be wrong and for England to buck the trend for once but it's unlikely, sadly. I think the Scots will be breathing a huge sigh of relief this time tomorrow.
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Jul 13, 2024 21:37:03 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 13, 2024 21:37:03 GMT
No matter what happens tomorrow we need a better manager to take us forward especially with the talent we have in the team
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 13, 2024 21:44:59 GMT
No matter what happens tomorrow we need a better manager to take us forward especially with the talent we have in the team 2 euro finals , one World Cup semi final , one quarter final in 4 tournaments , a squad that loves him and employers that want him to stay suggests that’s both statistically very difficult to achieve and rightfully highly unlikely unless he walks and unless he’s turned out why would he, he every chance of winning the World Cup in two years time .
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Post by biddulphchav on Jul 13, 2024 22:10:17 GMT
Yep, think Id be starting with Shaw I like Trippier but hes no Denis Irwin Possibly the best left back in English football of the last 30 years re Irwin Your right he's not as good However if he stops Yamal then he's done his job Won't be easy I'd start with the same team Ashley Cole is the best English left back in recent years, maybe ever. He was brilliant.
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Jul 13, 2024 22:38:42 GMT
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Post by musik on Jul 13, 2024 22:38:42 GMT
No matter what happens tomorrow we need a better manager to take us forward especially with the talent we have in the team I was told Southgate has been absolutely fantastic and it's decided he will be ennobled.
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Post by Sfance on Jul 14, 2024 0:12:30 GMT
All I can say is Kane better not score or Bayern's going to be really pissed off. On second thoughts . . . .
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 14, 2024 0:18:29 GMT
All I can say is Kane better not score or Bayern's going to be really pissed off. On second thoughts . . . . He’s scored 3 is it? And still been about our worst player and we’d be better off without him. It just proves my point that his goals aren’t the bee all and end all.
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Jul 14, 2024 0:29:59 GMT
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Post by Bramolini on Jul 14, 2024 0:29:59 GMT
All I can say is Kane better not score or Bayern's going to be really pissed off. On second thoughts . . . . He’s scored 3 is it? And still been about our worst player and we’d be better off without him. It just proves my point that his goals aren’t the bee all and end all. No one's scored more in the tournament .
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 14, 2024 0:30:53 GMT
He’s scored 3 is it? And still been about our worst player and we’d be better off without him. It just proves my point that his goals aren’t the bee all and end all. No one's scored more in the tournament . And he’s still been utter shit.
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Post by Sfance on Jul 14, 2024 0:45:11 GMT
No one's scored more in the tournament . And he’s still been utter shit. The prosecution rests, M'Lud
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 14, 2024 0:46:30 GMT
And he’s still been utter shit. The prosecution rests, M'Lud It really does because there’s no way in hell he should be starting based on his performances.
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Post by Sfance on Jul 14, 2024 1:06:14 GMT
The prosecution rests, M'Lud It really does because there’s no way in hell he should be starting based on his performances. I've just had a thought . . . . what if he scores two? Then we'll really be in trouble.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 14, 2024 1:07:31 GMT
It really does because there’s no way in hell he should be starting based on his performances. I've just had a thought . . . . what if he scores two? Then we'll really be in trouble. Not at all, if we score we should win and he can break his spell as the worlds greatest Jonah.
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Post by Sfance on Jul 14, 2024 1:17:20 GMT
Like in the whale? If that's where he's been, shouldn't you cut him some slack?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 14, 2024 1:24:58 GMT
Like as in someone who is bad luck.
I genuinely hope that breaks on Sunday.
And Id be impressed if it broke and he helped Bayern to win the Champions League. But I wouldn’t if he won the Bundesliga, they should win that.
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