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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 12, 2022 18:35:45 GMT
How much better our first 11 is now with the addition of Baker, Maja and Bidace.
The side is faster and more skilful than before Jan and it’s exciting times.
The addition of Clucas, Thompson and Fletcher added nothing and lost us the imputous when they came on and showed how cumbersome we were before with next to no creativity.
Next season could be very exciting if we add another quality CM to play alongside Baker who’s head and shoulders above any other CMs we have.
Bidace is a cracking player and if by any miracle we could get him to stay for another season we’d be flying.
Add to that Wright Philips and the return of Soutter and we’ll be challenging.
Young,hungry, exciting players are the future.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Feb 12, 2022 18:36:42 GMT
Who's Bidais?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 12, 2022 18:37:29 GMT
Quite negative subs though?
Not sure why he didn’t DWP on for Bidace?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 12, 2022 18:38:16 GMT
Quite negative subs though? Not sure why he didn’t DWP on for Bidace? Really poor i thought. Hindsight showed it up even more. |
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Post by mowlee on Feb 12, 2022 18:38:36 GMT
How much better our first 11 is now with the addition of Baker, Maja and Bidais. The side is faster and more skilful than before Jan and it’s exciting times. The addition of Clucas, Thompson and Fletcher added nothing and lost us the imputous when they came on and showed how cumbersome we were before with next to no creativity. Next season could be very exciting if we add another quality CM to play alongside Baker who’s head and shoulders above any other CMs we have. Bidais is a cracking player and if by any miracle we could get him to stay for another season we’d be flying. Add to that Wright Philips and the return of Soutter and we’ll be challenging. Young,hungry, exciting players are the future. I must admit this last couple of games am impressed on how much we have transformed.. fast pressing attacking.. if we miss out this season.. we will be a proper force next season!! Happy potter |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 12, 2022 18:41:08 GMT
Quite negative subs though? Not sure why he didn’t DWP on for Bidace? Really poor i thought. Hindsight showed it up even more. And I don’t think that helps with the impression of them tbh. And that’s not me defending the players as such, they’re clearly not as good as what they replaced. But intent and shape and balance has a lot to play in that too. He was settling for a point which is probably fair but it’s never a tactic I overly like. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2022 18:44:13 GMT
Quite negative subs though? Not sure why he didn’t DWP on for Bidace? I thought he should have used DWP today from the bench. |
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 12, 2022 18:44:37 GMT
Quite negative subs though? Not sure why he didn’t DWP on for Bidace? yes I thought that too. I thought Brown was unlucky to get hooked, I thought he would have switched Brown into the middle and let DWP loose on their tiring left back |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 12, 2022 19:06:25 GMT
Quite negative subs though? Not sure why he didn’t DWP on for Bidace? yes I thought that too. I thought Brown was unlucky to get hooked, I thought he would have switched Brown into the middle and let DWP loose on their tiring left back Spot on the brown sub was the beginning of a step backwards , and from that point until the ref stepped in and very few would . I always felt we were likely to lose it at the death |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 12, 2022 19:09:47 GMT
Best form of defence is to attack. We've had many games this season where we've gone behind and I dont remember other sides sitting back as much as us. Either that or we just had no attacking threat.
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Post by TinkerT on Feb 12, 2022 19:15:59 GMT
What it showed to me was a, how much we need fuck Fletcher off as he's totally past it and b, how much we rely on brown and Powell to play our good stuff these days.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Feb 12, 2022 19:19:33 GMT
Did the subs really cost us anything? Not sure it’s much of an issue tonight. We went 2-1 up after the subs were made.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 12, 2022 19:39:21 GMT
Clucas is a busted flush and Fletch’s best days are behind him.
The team he’s put together now looks potent and hopefully we keep most of them together for next season
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Post by scfcwebby on Feb 12, 2022 19:50:17 GMT
Did the subs really cost us anything? Not sure it’s much of an issue tonight. We went 2-1 up after the subs were made. Only due to an absolute "what the fuck is he doing" moment from the keeper |
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Post by kjpt140v on Feb 12, 2022 20:34:14 GMT
How much better our first 11 is now with the addition of Baker, Maja and Bidais. The side is faster and more skilful than before Jan and it’s exciting times. The addition of Clucas, Thompson and Fletcher added nothing and lost us the imputous when they came on and showed how cumbersome we were before with next to no creativity. Next season could be very exciting if we add another quality CM to play alongside Baker who’s head and shoulders above any other CMs we have. Bidais is a cracking player and if by any miracle we could get him to stay for another season we’d be flying. Add to that Wright Philips and the return of Soutter and we’ll be challenging. Young,hungry, exciting players are the future. I must admit this last couple of games am impressed on how much we have transformed.. fast pressing attacking.. if we miss out this season.. we will be a proper force next season!! Happy potter Unfortunately two of the players that played today and maybe a third, will not be with us next season. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 12, 2022 20:56:33 GMT
Did the subs really cost us anything? Not sure it’s much of an issue tonight. We went 2-1 up after the subs were made. Maybe not in relation to the result / goals but in the way we played and any sort of posession yes 100 percent. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 12, 2022 21:09:36 GMT
I must admit this last couple of games am impressed on how much we have transformed.. fast pressing attacking.. if we miss out this season.. we will be a proper force next season!! Happy potter Unfortunately two of the players that played today and maybe a third, will not be with us next season. That’s a damn shame however we do have Wright Phillips, Soutter, Campbell and Moore (who’s a big improvement on Chester) who didn’t play today that will improve us. Add to that the fact we appear to have found a system that works and 2 good fullbacks. I can see us lining up with something like Bursic Wilmot Jagielka (hopefully) Soutter Tymon Baker New CM Wright Phillips Powell Campbell / Brown Maja (hopefully) or Brown We need a bit of luck with injuries and some decent signings / loans like the 2 lads we got in the Jan window and we’ll be right up there. We just need to ensure we don’t offer new contracts to Fletcher, Allen, Chester, Clucas, Bonham as they’re not the future. I love this exciting young team. They look hungry and aren’t short of any skill. They make the lineup up till mid season look very stale. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 12, 2022 21:32:13 GMT
Unfortunately two of the players that played today and maybe a third, will not be with us next season. That’s a damn shame however we do have Wright Phillips, Soutter, Campbell and Moore (who’s a big improvement on Chester) who didn’t play today that will improve us. Add to that the fact we appear to have found a system that works and 2 good fullbacks. I can see us lining up with something like Bursic Wilmot Jagielka (hopefully) Soutter Tymon Baker New CM Wright Phillips Powell Campbell / Brown Maja (hopefully) or Brown We need a bit of luck with injuries and some decent signings / loans like the 2 lads we got in the Jan window and we’ll be right up there. We just need to ensure we don’t offer new contracts to Fletcher, Allen, Chester, Clucas, Bonham as they’re not the future. I love this exciting young team. They look hungry and aren’t short of any skill. They make the lineup up till mid season look very stale. I wouldn't be banking on WP asa starter I think Wigan showed he's got zone Potential And can be a very useful impact player next year as he develops |
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Post by mjb2 on Feb 12, 2022 21:38:33 GMT
The subs showed, yet again, MON's negative side, clearly---and foolishly---settling for a point. All three were poor and weakened us at a time when the win was virtually in the bag. Clucas has long been incapable/unwilling to add anything whilst Fletch is just lazy. The biggest disappointment was Tommo whose passing was awful. Why no Wright Phillips when we needed to attack and keep the ball in their half? It was a thrilling encounter but braver management would have seen a victory which we just about deserved.
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Post by moon on Feb 13, 2022 6:25:04 GMT
He was settling for a point which is probably fair but it’s never a tactic I overly like. I can understand why Forest might settle for a point at that stage of the game but with our league position a point isn’t much use, we should have thrown the kitchen sink at them. I don’t want to be too critical though, MON is building a decent side here and we have looked really good in recent weeks. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 13, 2022 8:38:25 GMT
Next season the players on the bench have to be on a par with the starting 11,this way we won't be weakening the side when they have to come on.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Feb 13, 2022 10:51:31 GMT
Next season the players on the bench have to be on a par with the starting 11,this way we won't be weakening the side when they have to come on. True, but easier said than done. |
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 13, 2022 10:57:58 GMT
How much better our first 11 is now with the addition of Baker, Maja and Bidace. The side is faster and more skilful than before Jan and it’s exciting times. The addition of Clucas, Thompson and Fletcher added nothing and lost us the imputous when they came on and showed how cumbersome we were before with next to no creativity. Next season could be very exciting if we add another quality CM to play alongside Baker who’s head and shoulders above any other CMs we have. Bidace is a cracking player and if by any miracle we could get him to stay for another season we’d be flying. Add to that Wright Philips and the return of Soutter and we’ll be challenging. Young,hungry, exciting players are the future. Frustrating that we didn’t have these kind of options at the start of the season. If we had, I’m sure we would be right up there challenging. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2022 8:26:45 GMT
Fletcher is off the pace , he can't substitute brown / bidace / DWP, because his legs are gone
Even if we assume he was a decent player five years ago , that's still irrelevant
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2022 8:33:52 GMT
I get the idea , that if we just focus on the subs , then MoN was maybe a little negative .
But overall I find it a bit harsh to characterise a bloke , who with little money , has created one of the youngest , quickest , most entertaining stoke sides in years , as negative .
He is a mixed bag MoN , sometimes he can frustrate you by doing so much right , that you just can't help but feel , with a little braver tactics as we head towards the game's final 20 or 30mins , he could really do some damage in this league .
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 14, 2022 9:18:49 GMT
Quite negative subs though? Not sure why he didn’t DWP on for Bidace? Don’t lose mentality kicking in it’s MON’s default setting. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 14, 2022 11:33:17 GMT
I get the idea , that if we just focus on the subs , then MoN was maybe a little negative . But overall I find it a bit harsh to characterise a bloke , who with little money , has created one of the youngest , quickest , most entertaining stoke sides in years , as negative . He is a mixed bag MoN , sometimes he can frustrate you by doing so much right , that you just can't help but feel , with a little braver tactics as we head towards the game's final 20 or 30mins , he could really do some damage in this league . He's inherently negative isn't he? It's the default setting? I hope he's had an epiphany but I need a lot more evidence to be convinced. |
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 14, 2022 11:35:15 GMT
By the sound of the post match interview from Saturday, it sounds as if we will have a lot more wriggle room in the summer window to further re shape the squad/team, which sounded very promising.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 14, 2022 15:46:47 GMT
Worrying that Clive Clarke mentioned Powell being out of contract in the summer? I thought he’d got another year left?
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 14, 2022 16:52:53 GMT
Worrying that Clive Clarke mentioned Powell being out of contract in the summer? I thought he’d got another year left? I thought it had been reported that we have an option to extend for 1 year which I suppose we'll take up if we are not able to agree a longer new contract with him. |
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