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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2022 12:58:54 GMT
Remove that monstrosity of a scoreboard in the Boothen corner and build a safe standing area. totally. It's unnecessary and it should have gone in the corner by the away fans. But as always with Stoke, no one thinks too much on this sort of stuff |
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Post by RF10 on Feb 1, 2022 13:01:21 GMT
I'd use Delilah's if it was decent and reasonable price beer. I went in after it’s grand opening. It was like a 60’s working mens club. Bloody awful. I used to go in now and again years ago but much prefer going pub and getting there just before kick off now. Having a indoor bar that close it should be rammed every match, don't think charging people to enter pre match is good either. Show you season ticket and free entry. The indoor bar at Man City is decent. |
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Post by bangorstokie on Feb 1, 2022 13:12:03 GMT
Admittedly, all this is good news, but,and it’s a big BUT, can they also sort out the parking issues. To sit in your car for a hour or more without turning a wheel, is fucking scandalous!!
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Post by medwaypotter on Feb 1, 2022 13:12:29 GMT
By 2017 we will have, by far, the best bar facilities and nicest looking seats in league 1. in a time machine ? |
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Feb 1, 2022 13:26:36 GMT
I don’t get the obsession with moving the away fans. I’d love to see any evidence that it makes visiting teams play better. I just don’t buy it. I agree, I mean they run (stroll) on towards the Boothen! |
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Post by Turkish Delight on Feb 1, 2022 13:51:45 GMT
Remove that monstrosity of a scoreboard in the Boothen corner and build a safe standing area. Then how would emergency vehicles enter the stadium? |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 1, 2022 13:53:54 GMT
Bye Tony  Just shows what wee ben missing for 17 years |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2022 13:56:19 GMT
By 2017 we will have, by far, the best bar facilities and nicest looking seats in league 1. Five years ago? |
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 1, 2022 14:03:18 GMT
Remove that monstrosity of a scoreboard in the Boothen corner and build a safe standing area. Then how would emergency vehicles enter the stadium? The same way they do at other enclosed arenas. |
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 1, 2022 14:03:56 GMT
By 2017 we will have, by far, the best bar facilities and nicest looking seats in league 1. Five years ago? Whoops (amended) |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 1, 2022 14:06:31 GMT
Remove that monstrosity of a scoreboard in the Boothen corner and build a safe standing area. Then how would emergency vehicles enter the stadium? I don't see the point of your question! If/when that corner (between the main stand and the Boothen End) is redeveloped, it will be perfectly easy to have either seating or safe standing, or a mix of the two (with a screen hanging from the new roof as happens in the opposite corner) AND still have a tunnel to allow access for emergency vehicles - or indeed vehicles of any sort such as vehicles to lay or maintain the pitch. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 1, 2022 14:40:27 GMT
I went in after it’s grand opening. It was like a 60’s working mens club. Bloody awful. I used to go in now and again years ago but much prefer going pub and getting there just before kick off now. Having a indoor bar that close it should be rammed every match, don't think charging people to enter pre match is good either. Show you season ticket and free entry. The indoor bar at Man City is decent. The company I used to work for had a box right on the half way line at the Stadium of Light (mega bucks at the time). On a visit (years ago) I tried to have a look inside their “Heroes Bar”….no chance as not a member. What I did see from the doorway was a lovely sports bar with loads of football memorabilia of all sorts. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2022 14:46:54 GMT
Sounds good. I'm still waiting for the indoor facility at the training ground mind   |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2022 14:58:42 GMT
A few pallets and some Gorilla glue and we'd have a better stadium than Loftus Rd
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Post by lagwafis on Feb 1, 2022 15:05:33 GMT
Then how would emergency vehicles enter the stadium? I don't see the point of your question! If/when that corner (between the main stand and the Boothen End) is redeveloped, it will be perfectly easy to have either seating or safe standing, or a mix of the two (with a screen hanging from the new roof as happens in the opposite corner) AND still have a tunnel to allow access for emergency vehicles - or indeed vehicles of any sort such as vehicles to lay or maintain the pitch. Yeah, Middlesbrough and Derby both kept their vehicle access gates. That said, Boro built 'over it' by sweeping the upper tier round the corner, and Derby put boxes over it with a small seating area (described by a Derby supporting colleague as 'the shittest view in the entire stadium'.) My gut feel is we won't do anything with it unless we've seriously high demand for ticket sales and exceed 30k (which we've only averaged three times in our entire history). Even then they'd have to relocate the press, media, vehicle and unloading area which takes up the current corner footprint, both inside and out.   |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 1, 2022 15:18:42 GMT
I don't see the point of your question! If/when that corner (between the main stand and the Boothen End) is redeveloped, it will be perfectly easy to have either seating or safe standing, or a mix of the two (with a screen hanging from the new roof as happens in the opposite corner) AND still have a tunnel to allow access for emergency vehicles - or indeed vehicles of any sort such as vehicles to lay or maintain the pitch. Yeah, Middlesbrough and Derby both kept their vehicle access gates. That said, Boro built 'over it' by sweeping the upper tier round the corner, and Derby put boxes over it with a small seating area (described by a Derby supporting colleague as 'the shittest view in the entire stadium'.) My gut feel is we won't do anything with it unless we've seriously high demand for ticket sales and exceed 30k (which we've only averaged three times in our entire history). Even then they'd have to relocate the press, media, vehicle and unloading area which takes up the current corner footprint, both inside and out. Odd that the small Derby seated area below the boxes is said to have such a poor view. It looks as though the view would be much the same as any other seated area in the corner - and it doesn't look as if there are any obstructed views. I have often wondered, if we do redevelop that corner how we would do it. The simplest option would be to extend the main stand around the corner with seats and boxes on the top tier and either seats or safe standing below the boxes on the lower tier. Or, would we do a Derby and go for mostly boxes? I'm not sure if we need many more boxes than simply extending the main stand round the corner would give us. The worst thing would be to do what Preston did with their new stand (the last one to be redeveloped) where they appear to have run out of money and have still not fitted out the executive boxes - that looks really naff! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2022 15:51:52 GMT
Remove that monstrosity of a scoreboard in the Boothen corner and build a safe standing area. Then how would emergency vehicles enter the stadium? From the entrance by the away fans and tunnel. No idea why we thought we had to have 2 emergency entrances. Out of interest, have we ever used the one by the Boothen? It's just shit design (again), and an "it'll do" attitude that is so prevalant to North Staffs. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 1, 2022 15:54:41 GMT
Good news.
Concourse needs serious work.
An ability to serve a drink cold would be nice too
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 1, 2022 15:58:23 GMT
Things like ground improvements dont sit on the P&L, they are on the balance sheet It would like you buying a house for £250k and then saying you have lost £250k, reality is that you have an asset worth £250k, therefore you havent made a loss on the investment of you follow Depreciation of said assets is released to the P&L, however I believe depreciation is excluded from the FFP calculation. And in my day depreciation on Land & Buildings was very low and in fact they could be appreciated if conditions justified it |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Feb 1, 2022 16:10:14 GMT
Concourse need to be widened in the boothen end.
Bigger toilet entrance for block 24 as its always a mare going for a slash.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2022 16:14:42 GMT
Then how would emergency vehicles enter the stadium? From the entrance by the away fans and tunnel. No idea why we thought we had to have 2 emergency entrances. Out of interest, have we ever used the one by the Boothen? It's just shit design (again), and an "it'll do" attitude that is so prevalant to North Staffs. When the lad from Crewe broke his leg, By from ,Crewe mean born there. Marvin....... Edit Marvin Robinson |
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Post by Northy on Feb 1, 2022 16:30:51 GMT
Move the away supporters or the tunnel. Put a wind break in the 2 open corners. The boothen/main stand corner should be where new changing rooms and tunnel should be built, and on the top deck would be my own large suite overlooking the pitch. I just need a £100m win on the lottery first. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2022 16:38:41 GMT
Remove that monstrosity of a scoreboard in the Boothen corner and build a safe standing area. totally. It's unnecessary and it should have gone in the corner by the away fans. But as always with Stoke, no one thinks too much on this sort of stuff Why should it go in the other corner as opposed to where it is and why is it unnecessary ? |
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Post by bringitondown on Feb 1, 2022 16:40:54 GMT
Depreciation of said assets is released to the P&L, however I believe depreciation is excluded from the FFP calculation. And in my day depreciation on Land & Buildings was very low and in fact they could be appreciated if conditions justified it Yep, still the case now with some companies using a revaluation model on land etc. Only thing is whilst depreciation on the building may be over say 150 years, the fixtures and fittings contained within may have a shorter useful economic life. In the case of a refurb I imagine a fair chunk would go on a facelift rather than construction of entirely new areas i.e replacing the seats, which you'd have a hard job arguing would last for 150 years |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 1, 2022 16:46:58 GMT
And in my day depreciation on Land & Buildings was very low and in fact they could be appreciated if conditions justified it Yep, still the case now with some companies using a revaluation model on land etc. Only thing is whilst depreciation on the building may be over say 150 years, the fixtures and fittings contained within may have a shorter useful economic life. In the case of a refurb I imagine a fair chunk would go on a facelift rather than construction of entirely new areas i.e replacing the seats, which you'd have a hard job arguing would last for 150 years Unless you’re talking about the seats at Vale…🤣 |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 1, 2022 16:52:00 GMT
totally. It's unnecessary and it should have gone in the corner by the away fans. But as always with Stoke, no one thinks too much on this sort of stuff Why should it go in the other corner as opposed to where it is and why is it unnecessary ? It certainly isn't unnecessary - most clubs with big screens have them either at opposite ends or opposite corners of the pitch. The annoying thing for me is that if that corner is ever properly developed, the screen would need to be moved to hang from the stand roof. But I suppose in the grand scheme of things, the cost of relocation of the screen (and the demolition of the building which holds the screen at present) isn't particularly large compared to the £millions it will cost to develop the corner. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2022 16:52:08 GMT
Move the away supporters or the tunnel. Put a wind break in the 2 open corners. The boothen/main stand corner should be where new changing rooms and tunnel should be built, and on the top deck would be my own large suite overlooking the pitch. I just need a £100m win on the lottery first. Easy. Make the South Stand the Boothen End (it ain't in Boothen so who gives a shit) and stick the away fans in block 19 and 20. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2022 16:54:55 GMT
The boothen/main stand corner should be where new changing rooms and tunnel should be built, and on the top deck would be my own large suite overlooking the pitch. I just need a £100m win on the lottery first. Easy. Make the South Stand the Boothen End (it ain't in Boothen so who gives a shit) and stick the away fans in block 19 and 20. Then you have the issues with away coaches etc. Why change them anyway? |
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Post by Scouse on Feb 1, 2022 16:56:00 GMT
From the entrance by the away fans and tunnel. No idea why we thought we had to have 2 emergency entrances. Out of interest, have we ever used the one by the Boothen? It's just shit design (again), and an "it'll do" attitude that is so prevalant to North Staffs. When the lad from Crewe broke his leg, By from ,Crewe mean born there. Marvin....... Edit Marvin Robinson This ..and the cortège and funeral cars of both Banks and Matthews entered the stadium via the Boothen and exited via the south stand |
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Post by Turkish Delight on Feb 1, 2022 17:11:27 GMT
Then how would emergency vehicles enter the stadium? From the entrance by the away fans and tunnel. No idea why we thought we had to have 2 emergency entrances. Out of interest, have we ever used the one by the Boothen? It's just shit design (again), and an "it'll do" attitude that is so prevalant to North Staffs. It's used every game for what its worth. |
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Just shows what wee ben missing for 17 years 
