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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 13:02:19 GMT
Can only think of Souttar - and that would be January at the earliest you'd think? We may get low millions for Bursik if the Bournemouth interest is real, and depending on his contract situation. As far as we know, he has 12 months left and doesn't seem to be trusted fully, so that one must be one to watch. I can't see anyone offering big money for Brown this summer. Maybe next if he kicks on again? Campbell - no chance. Tymon - very unlikely. Yeah it's hard to see where it would come from. Is Tymon phenominal according to data? That could be a goer. Someone on Twitter speculating Forrester isn't happy. I've been told MON barely speaks to him so that wouldn't be out of the question? But how much would we get for him? Not much. Someone on Twitter speculating Proof if you ever needed it
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2022 13:16:43 GMT
Yeah it's hard to see where it would come from. Is Tymon phenominal according to data? That could be a goer. Someone on Twitter speculating Forrester isn't happy. I've been told MON barely speaks to him so that wouldn't be out of the question? But how much would we get for him? Not much. Someone on Twitter speculating Proof if you ever needed it No it’s speculation as said 😂
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Post by heworksardtho on May 18, 2022 15:26:34 GMT
£28 grand a week he must be laughing his cock off to think he’s got that for another season , same boring turgid shit football, he’s on a winner again for another 2022/23 mid table or relegation season
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 15:30:04 GMT
Someone on Twitter speculating Proof if you ever needed it No it’s speculation as said 😂 It's not even that
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 16:33:12 GMT
More Michael O'Neil doesn't like the youngsters nonsense being spouted.
The strangest of all the beat the manager sticks.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 18, 2022 16:34:43 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2022 16:37:49 GMT
Me too Mike, you seem to be the issue owd.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2022 16:39:06 GMT
More Michael O'Neil doesn't like the youngsters nonsense being spouted. The strangest of all the beat the manager sticks. Not really. I think it’s been pretty evident with words and actions that we can see. The behind the scenes picture that is painted is one that is way worse than I would have even imagined.
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Post by thevoid on May 18, 2022 16:42:09 GMT
More Michael O'Neil doesn't like the youngsters nonsense being spouted. The strangest of all the beat the manager sticks. Agreed. There are numerous others to use!
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 18, 2022 17:01:18 GMT
No it’s speculation as said 😂 It's not even that "the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence." Seems the very definition to me
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 17:06:07 GMT
"the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence." Seems the very definition to me I think there's 'without firm evidence' and further below that-'bloke on Twitter.'.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 17:55:26 GMT
More Michael O'Neil doesn't like the youngsters nonsense being spouted. The strangest of all the beat the manager sticks. Not really. I think it’s been pretty evident with words and actions that we can see. The behind the scenes picture that is painted is one that is way worse than I would have even imagined. Painted by who?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 17:56:10 GMT
More Michael O'Neil doesn't like the youngsters nonsense being spouted. The strangest of all the beat the manager sticks. Agreed. There are numerous others to use! There are others most definitely, that's what makes this complete fabricated nonsense even more strange.
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Post by Sfance on May 18, 2022 17:59:44 GMT
So he’s still here then. How’s his hip coming along?
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Post by thevoid on May 18, 2022 18:44:33 GMT
So he’s still here then. How’s his hip coming along? He's still got a bad side apparently
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Post by Pugsley on May 18, 2022 18:49:25 GMT
Not really. I think it’s been pretty evident with words and actions that we can see. The behind the scenes picture that is painted is one that is way worse than I would have even imagined. Painted by who? The bloke in his bathroom mirror.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2022 18:59:04 GMT
Agreed. There are numerous others to use! There are others most definitely, that's what makes this complete fabricated nonsense even more strange. Various people.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2022 19:00:57 GMT
The bloke in his bathroom mirror. I wish it was tbh. The way he talks about the young players in public seems to set the tone. It’s pretty crap.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 18, 2022 21:33:56 GMT
The interview seemed honest and realistic basically. FFP is a ridiculous in the way that it hampers club's from investing but it is what it is and it effects the vast majority of the competition equally. I've said it before but I'll say it again, his time as manager here has been unspectacular to put it politely, other than the first season. My personal preference is a change in Coach but, given it's clear he's going nowhere, the best we have right now is the hope he can learn from his mistakes and improve.. quickly! He simply has to become better at in-game management and learn to out-think the opposing manager and make more reliable transfer decisions. Ffp is what it is but at the end of the day, I'm watching rangers in a European cup final and they've spent about what we have in recent years. Apart from the relegated teams last season he had a top six squad and top six financial backing. He's clueless
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Post by iglugluk on May 18, 2022 22:03:54 GMT
The interview seemed honest and realistic basically. FFP is a ridiculous in the way that it hampers club's from investing but it is what it is and it effects the vast majority of the competition equally. I've said it before but I'll say it again, his time as manager here has been unspectacular to put it politely, other than the first season. My personal preference is a change in Coach but, given it's clear he's going nowhere, the best we have right now is the hope he can learn from his mistakes and improve.. quickly! He simply has to become better at in-game management and learn to out-think the opposing manager and make more reliable transfer decisions. Ffp is what it is but at the end of the day, I'm watching rangers in a European cup final and they've spent about what we have in recent years. Apart from the relegated teams last season he had a top six squad and top six financial backing. He's clueless I'm not a fan of O'Neill's management and I'm assuming you've noticed that? Rangers may very well have spent similarly to us in recent years, but they are not required to stop spending unless they sell this summer, as a result of the stringent nature of the Championship system. I agree we have spent very poorly.. I mean who doesn't? But that is done and past now. Do I trust O'Neill to rebuild the team? No, not particularly. But he's going to be undertaking the rebuild and he's going to be manager at the start of next season, so I'm sticking with the pragmatic comments I made for now.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 18, 2022 22:09:30 GMT
Ffp is what it is but at the end of the day, I'm watching rangers in a European cup final and they've spent about what we have in recent years. Apart from the relegated teams last season he had a top six squad and top six financial backing. He's clueless I'm not a fan of O'Neill's management and I'm assuming you've noticed that? Rangers may very well have spent similarly to us in recent years, but they are not required to stop spending unless they sell this summer, as a result of the stringent nature of the Championship system. I agree we have spent very poorly.. I mean who doesn't? But that is done and past now. Do I trust O'Neill to rebuild the team? No, not particularly. But he's going to be undertaking the rebuild and he's going to be manager at the start of next season, so I'm sticking with the pragmatic comments I made for now. I agree with everything you say, I just always zero in on FFP because it's being used as an easy excuse to my mind. We're still making a lot of poor signings and other teams are investing far better than us
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Post by iglugluk on May 18, 2022 22:47:36 GMT
I'm not a fan of O'Neill's management and I'm assuming you've noticed that? Rangers may very well have spent similarly to us in recent years, but they are not required to stop spending unless they sell this summer, as a result of the stringent nature of the Championship system. I agree we have spent very poorly.. I mean who doesn't? But that is done and past now. Do I trust O'Neill to rebuild the team? No, not particularly. But he's going to be undertaking the rebuild and he's going to be manager at the start of next season, so I'm sticking with the pragmatic comments I made for now. I agree with everything you say, I just always zero in on FFP because it's being used as an easy excuse to my mind. We're still making a lot of poor signings and other teams are investing far better than us Agreed, even recently the Surridge signing and the Sima and Ostigard loans were all wasteful and poorly handled. The January transfers were also pretty poorly managed too. We can only hope he's got more Baker type signings in hand and that he then knows how to use his chosen team considerably more effectively. I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 19, 2022 0:41:20 GMT
The bloke in his bathroom mirror. I wish it was tbh. The way he talks about the young players in public seems to set the tone. It’s pretty crap. He picks more of them than any other manager we've had in my lifetime, though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 19, 2022 11:53:52 GMT
I wish it was tbh. The way he talks about the young players in public seems to set the tone. It’s pretty crap. He picks more of them than any other manager we've had in my lifetime, though. Because he's had no choice. And even then it's not been as often as it should and he's done strange things. He clearly doesn't like doing it and crap he speaks about them makes no sense when allied with his glowing appraisals of the likes of Chester and Mikel in that time. He's a massive hypocrite.
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Post by serpico on May 19, 2022 12:00:45 GMT
Not been overly impressed with O'Neil so far but willing to give him bit longer, he walked into a total shit show of a club still dealing with the aftermath of relegation, now the finances have been cleaned up he has no excuses, the ship has been steadied and now is the time to push on, he needs to have us at least in the top 6 at christmas.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 19, 2022 13:03:44 GMT
He picks more of them than any other manager we've had in my lifetime, though. Because he's had no choice. And even then it's not been as often as it should and he's done strange things. He clearly doesn't like doing it and crap he speaks about them makes no sense when allied with his glowing appraisals of the likes of Chester and Mikel in that time. He's a massive hypocrite. But Rowett, Jones and Lambert had access to the same players and didn't use them, mostly due to their various shortcomings. Campbell was virtually out of the door when he arrived. Nobody would have batted an eyelid if he didn't play Forrester, Norton or Sparrow when other options were available.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 19, 2022 13:05:53 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 19, 2022 13:13:14 GMT
Because he's had no choice. And even then it's not been as often as it should and he's done strange things. He clearly doesn't like doing it and crap he speaks about them makes no sense when allied with his glowing appraisals of the likes of Chester and Mikel in that time. He's a massive hypocrite. But Rowett, Jones and Lambert had access to the same players and didn't use them, mostly due to their various shortcomings. Campbell was virtually out of the door when he arrived. Nobody would have batted an eyelid if he didn't play Forrester, Norton or Sparrow when other options were available. And they had access to squillions of pounds too. Jones was a God awful manager and him not using Campbell in his last season with us was part of that God awful management. MON had to use him, there was no viable alternative. Nobody would have done but they should. Forrester is good enough to be a Premier League player. This is the second season where the highlight has been how the u23 side has done and we've seen 2 players from it given half a chance.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 19, 2022 13:14:49 GMT
Because he's had no choice. And even then it's not been as often as it should and he's done strange things. He clearly doesn't like doing it and crap he speaks about them makes no sense when allied with his glowing appraisals of the likes of Chester and Mikel in that time. He's a massive hypocrite. But Rowett, Jones and Lambert had access to the same players and didn't use them, mostly due to their various shortcomings. Campbell was virtually out of the door when he arrived. Nobody would have batted an eyelid if he didn't play Forrester, Norton or Sparrow when other options were available. Two of them had money to spend so didn't need to use the youth unless they were something really special, MON doesn't have that luxury so his hand is forced somewhat. Thankfully we've got some good youngsters at the club but I still think the odd one has been under used, Forrester for example could easily have seen more game time when it was obvious the season was over in any meaningful way.
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Post by iamstokie on May 19, 2022 13:19:19 GMT
Andy Carroll incoming 🤦♂️
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