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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 20, 2022 13:32:35 GMT
I suspect if we go 343 we will dispense of full back /wing backs as attacking threats. We may use them defensively as two of the 4. They're more naturally advanced in a 343 hence the notation. If we did that, it'd be a 523. Which would be novel. Yes I understand but I was thinking of matches like this weekend when we might need to use two sitting midfielders to close the gaps out wide to stop our middle three being pulled out of the middle.
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Post by klingon on Jan 20, 2022 13:32:45 GMT
[Hidden Radio Stoke microphone] Nige: "Fuckers! I'm still getting used to Alfie Docherty!"
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 20, 2022 13:41:34 GMT
Nige: Can I call them DWP, THB and JPB?
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Post by monkeycat on Jan 20, 2022 13:48:16 GMT
We like a Friday announcement.. What about a Thursday announcement
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Post by etebojan on Jan 20, 2022 13:49:16 GMT
We like a Friday announcement.. What about a Thursday announcement monkeycat you little tease!
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 20, 2022 13:49:30 GMT
Nige: Can I call them DWP, THB and JPB? He'd never get that right. He'd struggle to get the initials in the correct place and then he wouldn't remember which player they referred to. He just needs nicknames for them. Even their Christian names would be a challenge 😅😅
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Post by lordb on Jan 20, 2022 13:50:14 GMT
We like a Friday announcement.. What about a Thursday announcement I'll announce that Thursdays are rubbish
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 20, 2022 13:55:27 GMT
We like a Friday announcement.. What about a Thursday announcement No I'm going for an early Saturday morning confirmation that we'd got the papers in in time for him to play just as we're about to hand in the team sheet. Keep Fulham guessing.
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Post by klingon on Jan 20, 2022 13:56:02 GMT
Nige: Can I call them DWP, THB and JPB? [Hidden radio Stoke microphone] producer: "Nige I've told you before, you can call them anything you fucking want, as you have been doing for years. If you're going down the "initials" route just be careful, we don't want your top plate shooting out and smacking Pej in the face again, do we?"
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Post by neddy on Jan 20, 2022 14:00:28 GMT
We like a Friday announcement.. What about a Thursday announcement Hey mate have you heard anything about outgoings given you seem to get a few snippets?
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Post by questionable on Jan 20, 2022 14:04:51 GMT
Nige: Can I call them DWP, THB and JPB? It’ll be hilarious listening to him trying to get this out on air, I’m going for Fylongy Bidice .
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Post by theonlooker on Jan 20, 2022 14:04:56 GMT
We like a Friday announcement.. What about a Thursday announcement Oh yes sir.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 20, 2022 14:05:10 GMT
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Post by kerouac on Jan 20, 2022 14:15:28 GMT
Well I don’t know about you lot but I’m fucking excited….I’m making the trip on Saturday too,if this comes off do reckon he may feature?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 20, 2022 14:25:57 GMT
"He's made the bench on four occasions for Gerrard but only seen five minutes of action so far. His system isn't suited to genuine wingers as such, as he prefers the inside forwards or 'number 10's' behind the striker. It'd probably be unfair to throw the young winger into this system that doesn't suit him and that possibly hints his chances are limited at the moment."
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 20, 2022 14:27:44 GMT
"He's made the bench on four occasions for Gerrard but only seen five minutes of action so far. His system isn't suited to genuine wingers as such, as he prefers the inside forwards or 'number 10's' behind the striker. It'd probably be unfair to throw the young winger into this system that doesn't suit him and that possibly hints his chances are limited at the moment." Sounds more and more like we are looking to move to a 343. Hard to see where Powell and Vrancic would fit into that? Something like: Bursik/Bonham THB Jags Wilmot Smith Allen Baker Tymon DWP Campbell JPB
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 20, 2022 14:30:46 GMT
"He's made the bench on four occasions for Gerrard but only seen five minutes of action so far. His system isn't suited to genuine wingers as such, as he prefers the inside forwards or 'number 10's' behind the striker. It'd probably be unfair to throw the young winger into this system that doesn't suit him and that possibly hints his chances are limited at the moment." Sounds more and more like we are looking to move to a 343. Hard to see where Powell and Vrancic would fit into that? In a 343 though it's more 2 inside forwards isn't it? And it is. Unless Powell played up top. But then we wouldn't need another striker (the Bosnian chap). I'm sure it'll come out in the wash eventually but at the minute this just doesn't make any sense. And again for those that struggle, it's not about this lads talent. He sounds awesome tbh.
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Post by klingon on Jan 20, 2022 14:31:05 GMT
Well I don’t know about you lot but I’m fucking excited….I’m making the trip on Saturday too,if this comes off do reckon he may feature? [Hidden Radio Stoke microphone] Nige: "I'll tell you something for nothing, if he's on at the weekend I'll be using "promising young loan player" as a fall back position. I bet those twats are already scouring the leagues for a youth who just happens to have been named after the longest railway station name in fucking Wales!"
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Post by Pirate on Jan 20, 2022 14:34:02 GMT
Makes sense to get Powell as close to goal as we can for now as we lack a goalscorer, float 2 of TC, JPB,DWP around him as pseudo 10's.
Fletch & Brown to replace & backup, Sima isnt happening & Surridge clearly is miles off.
Makes sense for me in a lot of ways as having the pacey youngsters is great but form will fluctuate so the 3 for 2 spots works.
We will set up different away for certain games but could see a bit of 343 at home i surmise, leaves Mario nicely available to come in & out & do his thing rather than being flogged to death.
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 20, 2022 14:34:57 GMT
Sounds more and more like we are looking to move to a 343. Hard to see where Powell and Vrancic would fit into that? In a 343 though it's more 2 inside forwards isn't it? And it is. Unless Powell played up top. But then we wouldn't need another striker (the Bosnian chap). I'm sure it'll come out in the wash eventually but at the minute this just doesn't make any sense. And again for those that struggle, it's not about this lads talent. He sounds awesome tbh. I can see a 343, with one of the wide players being a tricky winger type, DWP/JPB, and the other being more of a creative number 10/inside forward type, Mario or Nick. If they cut inside, it gives Tymon and Smith room to get forward from wing back.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 20, 2022 14:37:18 GMT
In a 343 though it's more 2 inside forwards isn't it? And it is. Unless Powell played up top. But then we wouldn't need another striker (the Bosnian chap). I'm sure it'll come out in the wash eventually but at the minute this just doesn't make any sense. And again for those that struggle, it's not about this lads talent. He sounds awesome tbh. I can see a 343, with one of the 3 being a tricky winger type, DWP/JPB, and the other being more of a creative number 10/inside forward type, Mario or Nick. If they cut inside, it gives Tymon and Smith room to get forward from wing back. I just don't think it makes much sense tbh. It's a lot a change to accommodate a loan player we don't overly need. We're not even mentioning Doughty. He's going to be well pissed off. Do we loan him out too? So many questions, the answers are going to be very interesting!
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Post by etebojan on Jan 20, 2022 14:37:24 GMT
"He's made the bench on four occasions for Gerrard but only seen five minutes of action so far. His system isn't suited to genuine wingers as such, as he prefers the inside forwards or 'number 10's' behind the striker. It'd probably be unfair to throw the young winger into this system that doesn't suit him and that possibly hints his chances are limited at the moment." Sounds more and more like we are looking to move to a 343. Hard to see where Powell and Vrancic would fit into that? Something like: Bursik/Bonham THB Jags Wilmot Smith Allen Baker Tymon DWP Campbell JPB Or it sounds like Gerrard is hoping that during a lone spell with us, he could be played more as an inside forward or #10 so he's ready to slot back into his preferred system when he returns
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Post by Stoke711 on Jan 20, 2022 14:44:28 GMT
"He's made the bench on four occasions for Gerrard but only seen five minutes of action so far. His system isn't suited to genuine wingers as such, as he prefers the inside forwards or 'number 10's' behind the striker. It'd probably be unfair to throw the young winger into this system that doesn't suit him and that possibly hints his chances are limited at the moment." Maybe thats why they're sending him here. We take the risk with him playing behind.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 20, 2022 14:44:34 GMT
Sounds more and more like we are looking to move to a 343. Hard to see where Powell and Vrancic would fit into that? Something like: Bursik/Bonham THB Jags Wilmot Smith Allen Baker Tymon DWP Campbell JPB Or it sounds like Gerrard is hoping that during a lone spell with us, he could be played more as an inside forward or #10 so he's ready to slot back into his preferred system when he returns Indeed. We still need to get some shifting on though in that instance.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 20, 2022 14:46:21 GMT
"He's made the bench on four occasions for Gerrard but only seen five minutes of action so far. His system isn't suited to genuine wingers as such, as he prefers the inside forwards or 'number 10's' behind the striker. It'd probably be unfair to throw the young winger into this system that doesn't suit him and that possibly hints his chances are limited at the moment." Maybe thats why they're sending him here. We take the risk with him playing behind. Indeed. But do we need to take that risk? We have the players for it anyway? He does seem like a fair player though and one that will be very good so that's exciting. So many players have to leave to make it harmonious and that's where I'm struggling. I know it's irrelevant almost but I find it interesting!
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 20, 2022 14:51:55 GMT
I reckon a few more than we think will go - Batth going happened quickly, rumours of Davies and Edwards off, and I heard a whisper re a couple of others too. I can see 3 or 4 more set for a January exit, especially at the top end of the pitch if JPB and the Bosnian forward arrive. Sima won't come back, I can see TOB loaned out, and Surridge is starting to look a long way from first team action.
My worry is we lose Powell and/or Campbell, either now or in the summer. They are our crown jewels in the final third and must be retained unless really silly money is thrown at us.
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Post by Stoke711 on Jan 20, 2022 14:55:00 GMT
Maybe thats why they're sending him here. We take the risk with him playing behind. Indeed. But do we need to take that risk? We have the players for it anyway? He does seem like a fair player though and one that will be very good so that's exciting. So many players have to leave to make it harmonious and that's where I'm struggling. I know it's irrelevant almost but I find it interesting! Only thing I can think of, is we've been struggling of late, maybe MON wants to go this way but maybe feels he doesn't have the players or trust some of the ones we do have (I certainly don't trust a lot of them) so made a deal with Gerrard to get him in and promise to give him a lot of game time in return. But as you say its an exciting player to be bringing in and one I'm genuinely confident can turn a game for us, do a bit of magic to get the fans on their feet.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 20, 2022 14:55:03 GMT
I reckon a few more than we think will go - Batth going happened quickly, rumours of Davies and Edwards off, and I heard a whisper re a couple of others too. I can see 3 or 4 more set for a January exit, especially at the top end of the pitch if JPB and the Bosnian forward arrive. Sima won't come back, I can see TOB loaned out, and Surridge is starting to look a long way from first team action. My worry is we lose Powell and/or Campbell, either now or in the summer. They are our crown jewels in the final third and must be retained unless really silly money is thrown at us. I think Ince is a goner for sure if this happens. I can't seeing Sima leaving. If this dude and the Bosnian sign then it only points to Powell going to me. Unless we get rid of Thompson and Brown/Surridge. Then it squares it.
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Post by karl on Jan 20, 2022 14:55:46 GMT
Do you think Fletcher will leave with him being out of contract in the Summer? We don't play that hoof it up target man football any more.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 20, 2022 14:56:43 GMT
Well I don’t know about you lot but I’m fucking excited….I’m making the trip on Saturday too,if this comes off do reckon he may feature? I am excited too. I have my ticket to come over and watch them away at Forest and home to Brum. It is been two years since I saw them (oh, and my first grandchild who I last saw in Jan 2020, the week she was born).
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