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Post by Gawa on Oct 20, 2024 10:09:22 GMT
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 20, 2024 16:34:51 GMT
Ukraine hit an ammunition factory.
Can't tell if anything serious yet, but one boom I saw was quite big. Needs more.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 21, 2024 8:12:28 GMT
Russia getting close to securing the Donbas region?
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 21, 2024 15:44:28 GMT
Russia getting close to securing the Donbas region? Still nowhere near mate. The orange shaded bits on the right are what they've conquered in a whole year-long offensive. At this speed they're ~70 years from conquering the land Putin insists is his.
Russia can't afford this pace for even a few years. They're spending everything to look strong now in the hope the West will give up. Obviously something surprising could happen to shift things (e.g. NK sends a million soldiers plus armour, oil goes to $200/barrel, a new technology), or Ukrainian casualties so far could be worse than known (which could lose the war), but the way it's going russia is cooked and will lose if Western aid continues.
Russia knows this, so all their propaganda is aimed to weaken Western support. The stuff Gawa posts about poor russia, we have to let them conquer ukraine because America bad, or Ukrainians actually want to be russian, or military companies will make money, or denying blatant provable war crimes against civilians - all of it is designed to make people support surrendering Ukraine to the genocidal imperialists beause russia will lose on the current path without one of those big surprises I mentioned. And surprises could fall in Ukraine's favour too.
(I don't think Gawa supports the genocide of Ukrainians - just that he's fallen for the propaganda which is pushing that, and is sharing it) |
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 21, 2024 16:05:19 GMT
NATO-built tank with very different tactics from what the textbooks and media used to say. Ukraine uses them kinda like "sniper artillery" now. The accuracy and toughness of NATO tanks makes them way better for this.
Interviewed Ukrainians say they can do things that artillery or drones can't, and tank shells are ~100 times cheaper than missiles.
But... tanks are vulnerable so you only deploy them carefully.
(the video above cuts so there's no proof the exploding russian vehicles are hit by that tank, but the narrative fits what interviews have said).
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Post by musik on Oct 21, 2024 19:22:57 GMT
What will Sweden do when China start their march towards Ukraine with 1 billion soldiers?
On discussion atm on the tv news.
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Post by steve66 on Oct 21, 2024 19:24:32 GMT
Go shag Chinese women?
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Post by musik on Oct 21, 2024 19:26:26 GMT
How many people live in Europe? |
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Post by musik on Oct 21, 2024 19:36:14 GMT
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Post by musik on Oct 21, 2024 19:36:55 GMT
How many people live in Europe? OMG, there are twice as many people in China compared to Europe! DREADFUL |
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Post by steve66 on Oct 21, 2024 21:22:15 GMT
How many people live in Europe? OMG, there are twice as many people in China compared to Europe! DREADFUL Yes but if they sent a billion over then only 425 million left 😛 |
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Post by turtlefox on Oct 21, 2024 21:43:06 GMT
What will Sweden do when China start their march towards Ukraine with 1 billion soldiers? On discussion atm on the tv news. That Swedish news channel always sounds bonkers. It's like they're trying to scare everyone to death. |
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Post by Gawa on Oct 21, 2024 22:40:40 GMT
I think there are real parallels between what's happening in Modlova at the minute and the Euromaiden protests/revolution of dignity in Ukraine.
Like Ukraine they're also in negotiations to join the EU and have recently had a vote which appears to have won for joining. Like Ukraine there are huge regional differences with those in the capital and to the direct west voting to join while the other regions vote against.
One difference is that when the euromaidan protests happened in Ukraine it wasn't a pro western leader. Whereas in Moldova the leader is pro western at present.
US were accused in Ukraine of setting up and funding young anti government groups/protestors. In Moldova the opposite was accused of Russia.
In Moldova the west (uk/us/eu) have put alot of money into Moldova in recent years, some through the government while others through private enterprise. One was to setup independant media which I'm not sure if it can necessarily be independant if funded by west? Russia of course too accused of funding activist groups and some suggesting they're paying voters. Similarly some are accusing plaguerised votes from Moldovan not residing in Moldova.
Like Ukraine, Moldova has a very long, complex and disputed history. Prior to the world wars it was part of Greater Romania which encompassed the whole region as well as parts of Ukraine etc.. It even has a break away region which has been self governed for a while Transnistria.
Very complex and fascinating. Anyway I guess you could say there are a few similarities to what happened in Ukraine back in the early 2010s. With a west/Russia sort of division across the nation and interference from both sides.
I wonder how things may transpire there in the coming months.
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Post by Gawa on Oct 21, 2024 23:42:41 GMT
Russia knows this, so all their propaganda is aimed to weaken Western support. The stuff Gawa posts about poor russia, we have to let them conquer ukraine because America bad, or Ukrainians actually want to be russian, or military companies will make money, or denying blatant provable war crimes against civilians - all of it is designed to make people support surrendering Ukraine to the genocidal imperialists beause russia will lose on the current path without one of those big surprises I mentioned. And surprises could fall in Ukraine's favour too. (I don't think Gawa supports the genocide of Ukrainians - just that he's fallen for the propaganda which is pushing that, and is sharing it) Respectfully mate I've never once said or ever suggested Russia should be allowed to conquer Ukraine. I've only ever supported the self determination of the Ukranian people who have lived in these disputed regions. Regions which were self governed for a decade prior to this invasion. Seeing as you have went down this route of claiming it is all propoganda. I'll address it: 1. "Ukranians actually want to be Russian." I've never once said this. Maybe you're mistaking it with me saying most of Crimea identify as Russian? For the last 250 years Ukranians have never accounted for more than 25% of the Crimea population. This isn't "Propoganda". Its a simple fact. Source- en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Crimea2. "America Bad" Of course you have to take into the West's imperialist and colonial history, especially given we are bank rolling this war. You have literally just described Russia as "genocidal imperialists" and yet you have the inability to recognise ourselves as imperialist? And yet I'm the one falling for propoganda... If you can't recognise our own faults then how can you possibly fairly judge others? 3. "Military companies will make money" Not sure what this is in relation to? One of two things: - I'm pretty sure it was you or someone else who literally said we are given Ukraine old weapons and using the military budget to upgrade our own as replacements. - Alternatively do you mean Zelenskys post war plan where he literally has this has one of the 5 points: "Joint protection by the US and the EU of Ukraine's critical natural resources and joint use of their economic potential" Source - www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0z8gg5v14o4. "denying blatant provable war crimes against civilians" Below is my post where I mention Bucha, is this what you reference? I like how you use a double negative to describe it "blatant probable". Is the below really a denial? I take the time to try and extensively look up multiple sources and always try to keep an open mind never implying that I'm 100% correct. You're right to be concerned about that. I've made efforts to be clear when there's evidence either way when posting here. E.g. the POW execution videos were geolocated to actual fighting locations or were filmed by by the russians who did the killing. A lot of torture videos, the most-famous castration one etc were posted *by russians* as a boast. That's not ukrainian acting. I also try to be careful with words like saying that Ukrainian *command* doesn't support violence against prisoners etc. There have been some abuses by units, but Ukraine works very hard to prevent them. Russia doesn't. The russians mass murdered civilians in Bucha and then Putin rewarded the commander of that operation and had him sitting close to him during victory parades in a position of honour for all the TV cameras. Russia encourages its people who rape and torture and murder prisoners and civilians. Ukraine opposes those things. That doesnt mean it doesn't happen, but to me an intentional campaign of mass murder and torture is different from an organisation that trains, orders and encourages its people to respect human rights. There is no way that "both sides"-ing this is fair. (I think you were focussing on just beinf aware of propaganda, which is great, but I genuinely think that mass government-supported torture and murder are so bad and evil that every related discussion has to keep a focus on that, too) I'm not challenging you personally or directly, it's just you were the one which posted the tweet which interested me and that's why I quoted you. It's not personal. Bucha for instance is a good example of a massacre which has already occurred. We are told that Russia killed all these people despite no UN or impartial investigation (Uk actually rejected calls for one), the crux of the evidence appears to relate to satellite images from mid march which suggests bodies on the streets. The counter argument is the Mayor of the town making no reference to any murders at the end of March when he said the city was now liberated of Russian troops. One similarity between what was alleged to have happened in Bucha and the pre emptive framing happening here is that in Bucha is that Left Bank (US & EU funded institute) announced prior to the allegations that: "Special forces (Ukranian) have begun a clearing operation in the city of Bucha, which has been liberated by Armed Forces of Ukraine. The city is being cleared from saboteurs and accomplices of Russian Forces" Is this not very similar to what this tweeter is now alleging is going to happen in Russia? "Russian special forces are going to take Ukranian uniforms and commit atrocities as "evidence of Ukrainians brutality." I'm not denying or supporting that Russia massacred these citizens in Bucha, I'm simply trying to highlight the complexities in analysing it. Unrelated but for many many months you were called a conspiracy theorist, pro hamas and an antisemite if you as much as spoke about the evidence of Israeli tanks and helicopters used in October 7th. It wasn't until many months later of mounted evidence and pressure that Israel eventually finally caved in and admitted using a hannibal directive which killed many of their own citizens. Prior to that most western media weren't reporting on accounts from IDF members, accounts from citizens, accounts from people speaking to radio presenters, images of shelling on buildings etc... We were given some go pro footage and told every death was committed by hamas. Rape and torture of citizens or prisoners of war is never acceptable but again to be devils advocate, there is plenty of evidence which has mounted over a number of months of western backed IDF forces committing rape on Palestine's. And this is a military unit, the IDF, which has our undisputed backing from America and the UK. In more recent weeks we even have videos from Israeli tv of journalists justifying the rape and defending the use of it - and again we give our undisputed backing. If we are happy to support one army doing this, why are we confident we aren't supporting another army potentially happy to do this? When it comes to "rape" in the Palestine/Israel conflict the main time it's been discussed are accusations of Hamas doing it on October 7th, for many months this has been alleged and nearly used as a justification for what came afterwards. It's emotive language and accusations which are used to cause outrage. I appreciate the respectful replies and discussion as I know my views aren't necessarily appreciated by all on this thread, especially after a recent distasteful joke which on hindsight I'm sorry for. However I've been raised to think critically and I think alot of my skeptism comes from the dismantling of previous "truths" presented to us in the media on another Western backed war running parallel to this one. If we are happy to support people who do torture and rape, if we are happy to try and cover up crimes of the side we back etc... Why would we not be doing the same in Ukraine? I do focus mostly on propoganda and trying to dismantle the truth rather than the day to day action and I guess it's probably just because that interests more. I think because this thread heavily swings pro Ukraine that I maybe over compensate trying to explore the Russian side and their "truth" because I feel it doesn't really get presented or discussed here. As I've said before, I try to analyse information by looking at a western source, a russian source and then trying to find the middle ground. So as we hear from alot of very good Ukranian sources here and their perspective, I feel compelled to explore the Russian side. Had this been a Russian forum focusing only on Russians record of events then I'd likely be over compensating on the Ukranian side and exploring their side of events. But anyway to revert back to my original point. I do think we need to carefully scrutinise things and I feel pre emptively framing the perpetrator of potential war crimes yet to be committed is dangerous. Especially when the pre emptive framing is effectively saying that Russia is going to do what Russia accused (just highlighting accussed here to make it clear I'm not saying Russias take on events is correct) Ukraine of doing in Bucha. Sources for Russian perspective on Bucha: www.donbass-insider.com/2022/04/04/ukraine-the-massacre-of-bucha-a-ukrainian-timisoara/consortiumnews.com/2022/04/04/questions-abound-about-bucha-massacre/(Both articles composed beginning of April 2022. May be better updated sources elsehwere) I appreciate the last comment in brackets and feel our discussions are mostly good natured. I will however defend myself and my positions simply being called propoganda as I think that does a disservice to the time I put into independently reading up on things. I feel it also gives the impression I've got very definitive concrete views when I actually feel I approach most things from an open minded point of view and then research them further if they interest me. And is that not what critical thinking should be? |
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Post by Gawa on Oct 21, 2024 23:52:38 GMT
mtrstudentAs you've made the point of referencing my posts on Bucha in alot of your most recent posts. If you wish to keep bringing it up then I'd appreciate if you could at least carry on the conversation from where we last left it of. Which I believe is here: Yeah there are better updated sources. From one of yours: "If there were to be a serious probe, one of the first places an investigator would begin is to map out a timeline of events. Last Wednesday[30th March], all Russian forces left Bucha, according to the Russian Defense Ministry." Satellite images from 19th March show murdered Ukrainians lying in the streets 11 days before russia was forced out. UN investigators were able to document and prove:"In Bucha alone, OHCHR documented that at least 50 civilians were killed by Russian armed forces when it was under their occupation...Russian soldiers summarily executed unarmed local civilian men suspected of providing support to Ukrainian forces or otherwise considered to pose a possible future threat; others were shot by soldiers in the streets or snipers as they tried to cross the road or otherwise gather essentials for life; some civilians seemed to had been killed completely arbitrarily. Those perceived as providing support to Ukrainian forces were sometimes tortured before being killed." Over 400 civilian corpses were found, how many of those were summarily executed without "documentary proof" found of russian occupation involvement by mid-May? Video footage showed the russian 234rd regiment executing civilians. I spoke to a refugee from Bucha. He told me russians murdered his friends in their houses and the street. What do you think happened in Bucha? You've missed out this line in your quotation: "I'm not denying or supporting that Russia massacred these citizens in Bucha, I'm simply trying to highlight the complexities in analysing it." One person says there are satellite images of bodies in March. Another person says there that the bodies in the street are next to a crater from a shell, which means it could have been from shelling. The Mayor says the town is liberated and free from Russia days before any of this accusations come out. But then other Ukranian sources said this ""Special forces (Ukranian) have begun a clearing operation in the city of Bucha, which has been liberated by Armed Forces of Ukraine. The city is being cleared from saboteurs and accomplices of Russian Forces" What does "cleared from saboteurs and accomplices" mean? Quite clearly conflicting claims from both sides here. I'd support an independent investigation in the same way I support independent investigations into war crimes in the Israel/Palestine conflict. Nobody should be marking their own homework - you agree? For instance your quote from the UN. Here is the sentence before the part you quoted: "Hundreds of civilians were allegedly killed by Russian armed forces in situations that were not linked to active fighting. As of 15 May, OHCHR is working to corroborate over 300 allegations of such killings" So despite being told 400 people killed by Russians. It seems they could only confirm 50 of those deaths were Russian? So again an independent investigation should have been done. As for what a refugee says, it's anecdotal. Your source from the UN for instance provides a quote saying "At least in prison we were allowed to take daily walks outside", and talks about there being a ban on leaving houses during Russian control. So I'm not sure how he'd witness anything and more than likely is going of hearsay. For instance it conflicts with what the new york times journalists reported who were in Bucha reporting at the time of the massacre. It also conflicts with what the mayor said too. Who is right? I don't know but I do support independent investigations to find the truth. But what do you think happened? Come on mate, the satellite photos show the corpses were already in the street before the russians left. Some pro-russian speculating that maybe a hole nearby some bodies was a mortar is not remotely on the same level of evidence of actual literal photographic proof that the russians are lying. The russians lied about it. I have spoken to a first hand witness on this so I don't buy any of this pro-russian-murder propaganda shite about "how do we know". There are witnesses, security camera footage and russian call records showing that the russian army was just murdering innocents. You can call for independent investigations, and the UN investigators said they could find documentary proof for many of them. I'm fully fine and supportive of more independent investigation of the evidence, because I know what it'll find. What do you think happened? The satellite images is not evidence of anything Mtrstudent. If a satellite image provided by Blackrock/Maxar Technologies, who have vested interests, is the only hard evidence we have then that's enough to doubt. The only satellite image they have is from after the Russians left. Why have Maxar Technologies refused to sell or release images from their satellites dates March 19, March 22, March 23? Why would the Russian troops who were not forced out of battle leave incriminating evidence? Why would they make no effort to cover it up? Why was there absolutely zero evidence on crimes on social media or in the legacy media prior to Russian withdrawl? Why would the Bucha Mayor come out joyous talking about it being liberated after the Russians left but not report any of said crimes? Why did the Ukranian national police release footage of them driving around Bucha on April 2nd giving reports on things but not mentioning a massacre? Why can the UN only confirm the deaths of around 70 people compared to Ukraines claims of 400? Why were the identities of the dead never provided? Why is Russian so supportive of an independent investigation? Why have Ukraine, who have occupied Bucha since then, not allowed an independent investigation? Why did the New York Times, Reuters, Pentagon and many others who reported on it say they couldn't “independently verify the assertions by Ukraine’s Defense Ministry and other officials". Why are so many of the dead wearing white armbands which is used to show they're not hostile to Russian forces? i.e. civilians who aren't a threat Why are so many of the bodies pictured next to Russian rations? To feed their victims before murdering them? Why are there videos (most since removed) of bodies being dragged across the street with ropes by Ukranian troops? Why did Czech national who has since been imprisoned for unlawfully fighting with the Carpathlian Sich battalion boast about looting the dead and said "We were the police, we were the court, we were the firing squad when it came to this" (Philip Siman google him) Why did the court only punish him for looting in a war zone but not for mercenary activity in a foreign land? Why does Sergey Lavrov multiple requests for an investigation from the United Nations get ignored? Google it you can see the videos of him addressing the United Nations. Why did the videos from french journalist Adrien Bocquet vanish from most of the internet. Why would someone try to kill him in Turkey? Why was there such an effort to discredit him after his revelations? What does "The city is being cleared from saboteurs and accomplices of Russian Forces" mean? Where they imprisoned? How many of them? What were their identities? What happened to the "saboteurs and accomplices" and what does being "cleared" mean? I know what imprisoned or arrested means. Not sure what "cleared" means. Why did the New York Times who were there reporting on the conflict from Bucha not report any of these crimes either until days after Russia left? Why did the evidence only emerge after the Security Service of Ukraine entered the town? Is the article you linked meant to have a video which can be played because it doesn't seem to play for me. I think the Istanbul Communiqué which was agreed between Russian and Ukranian peace negotiators in the absence of western presence was quite substantial too. Washington weren't supportive of the peace agreements discussed in their absence and they seemed to be more interested in weakening Russia rather than finding peace. So it was then very convenient to suddenly have a few massacres to try and change public opinion and move away from any peace deals. Especially massacres which had no evidence and weren't even discussed by Mayors or Police until 4 days after the Russians left and the Ukranian security services arrived. So to answer your question. I don't know what happened but I know there are alot of stories, also from witnesses, which contradict your version of events. Of course though anything which goes against what the West says is "Russian propoganda". So I only have one question in response to you. Do you have any examples of Ukranian propoganda in the war? Edit: Sorry another question too. How do you interpret "The city is being cleared from saboteurs and accomplices of Russian Forces"? And if it was to imprison them. Where there videos of the saboteurs being rounded up? Where there names released? What happened to them and where were they cleared to?
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 24, 2024 15:45:51 GMT
Ukraine managed a successful counterattack in Toretsk. No official word about it but the drone videos show what happened.
Shows Ukraine still have skilled reserves. This guy (who's pretty switched on) says Ukraine can attack whenever Russia stops the pressure. So Russia tries to keep up the pressure, the big problem being it's using up all their resources. Russia needs the West & Ukraine to surrender before it's obvious Russia can't keep this up.
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Post by Gawa on Oct 24, 2024 16:16:59 GMT
This was a very wholesome video to watch. Fair play lads choose life over the meat grinder. Nobody should be forced into war against their will.
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 24, 2024 16:49:47 GMT
A few big picture things in recent news I think seem important.
- estimates are that Russia loses 25-40k soldiers killed/wounded/captured per month and recruits 25-30k. Russia is running at its limit unless they mobilise.
- North Korean troops are in Russia. The claimed 12k would fuel 1-2 weeks of extra russian heavy offensive. If NK sends 5-10k every month then that would suck and could change the war.
- Ukrainian recruitment is supposedly down to 20k/month now. It's politically and financially difficult, but if they're losing more people than that then this is a way they could lose the war.
- satellite images show that Russia has started mass removing BRDM-2 and MT-LBu vehicles from storage. This suggests they're finally down to scraps for armoured vehicles. Once the refurb factories finish what they have, russia's army will degrade with a slower supply of worse and more expensive armour.
- The Economist quoted Ukrainian intel chief Budanov who says almost half of Russian artillery ammo is now provided by North Korea. I'll post more about that later.
- France is sending Mirage 2000 jets. The first three are being set up for ground attack and should arrive early 2025. A regular supply would be good!
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Post by plug on Oct 24, 2024 16:54:53 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 24, 2024 16:59:00 GMT
This was a very wholesome video to watch. Fair play lads choose life over the meat grinder. Nobody should be forced into war against their will. I’m glad my uncles and grandfathers did not do the same They got off there arses so you could post the shit above |
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 24, 2024 17:24:31 GMT
This was a very wholesome video to watch. Fair play lads choose life over the meat grinder. Nobody should be forced into war against their will. I’m glad my uncles and grandfathers did not do the same They got off there arses so you could post the shit above Yeah no one should have to go to war. But also no one should have to live under brutal dictatorship either. Russia is forcing Ukrainians into the meat grinder and will do the same in future with Ukrainians who are surrendered now. So I guess your judgment on which is worse might depend on how sympathetic you are to Putin Vs western democracy. |
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Post by Gawa on Oct 24, 2024 17:44:57 GMT
This was a very wholesome video to watch. Fair play lads choose life over the meat grinder. Nobody should be forced into war against their will. I’m glad my uncles and grandfathers did not do the same They got off there arses so you could post the shit above I'm glad their great uncles and grandfather's (in the video) also got off their arses and killed 80% of the nazis for us. And I'm glad they're prioritising their own life decisions. My blood line, like yours dates many centuries and many different wars. The army your uncles may have fought for, did not fight for my ancestors - there's a reason its called Northern Ireland. I consistently support self determination and that includes young men having the choice if they go to war or not. Many of these young men probably don't even have children yet. They should be allowed the choice to self determine if they wish to fight. Their bloodline dates back longer than any Ukraine, Soviet Union, Russia, Ireland, England, United Kingdom. That's life, vikings, Romans, cells, Norman's. Countries change and territories change and no country is going to be here forever. And nobody is going to remember people from wars 150 years or more ago sadly. Just like most of us who don't go to war won't be remembered to. But my identity, my ancestors, my bloodline runs thicker and deeper than any "country" and I'll put my principles and my bloodline first too. I don't buy into any of this patriotism or nationalism were I blindly follow the lead of the government of the country of the day. We're all born the same way and we are all going to die. I expect 99% of ukranians, Russians, Iranians, Israelis, palestines are decent people. It's not their fault that the 1% are willing to sacrifice the masses because they can't agree. I ain't no pawn. I'm a queen baby. Checkmate. Fair play to your uncles and stuff going for war and fighting the nazis. I respect that and if they did it of their own will too then even better. But they're not accountable for me being here today. That's my ancestors who are. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 25, 2024 15:21:33 GMT
The russian central bank (CBR) just raised the interest rate to 21%.
CBR and the Finance Ministry are warning about the budget.
It's a simple thing IMO; when Ukraine has ammo and armour, fewer Ukrainians die and Russia loses more every month. Each russian soldier costs 5x what it cost this time last year, and they need even more soldiers for the same assaults because their armour and artillery have got worse.
Russia is taking on debt at credit card interest rates and they know they can't keep it up. They're begging for their allies trump and republicans to save them.
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 25, 2024 19:01:52 GMT
Claimed Kyiv now.
Even if that video isn't exactly tonight, Russia throws drones at Kyiv every night and the explosions sound like that.
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 25, 2024 19:26:58 GMT
How many people live in Europe? As of 2024, the population of Europe is approximately 744.9 million people |
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 25, 2024 20:05:36 GMT
From her relatives' building hit by russians in Kyiv. Russians hit residential buildings all the time.
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 26, 2024 15:01:43 GMT
There are claims that Russians are now training with WW2 vehicles like T-34 and IS-3 tanks.
There is video but I don't believe it yet. They have that exact combination of vehicles at the 1295th tank storage base in the far east and they use them for WW2 victory day events. They get them out for videos like this.
So if you see it claimed that Russia is using T-34s then don't believe it until the proof is video that can be located inside Ukraine.
(Edit: I think ages ago a museum one was reactivated and used locally but that was just a weird one-off).
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 26, 2024 15:04:23 GMT
Seeing lots of videos and photos of alleged pro-russian attacks on Georgian elections today. Observers being beaten, people stuffing papers into what look like ballot boxes etc.
I don't speak the language or know enough to judge if they're real, but they're being reported by people who are accurate on Ukraine facts.
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Oct 26, 2024 17:32:19 GMT
Seeing lots of videos and photos of alleged pro-russian attacks on Georgian elections today. Observers being beaten, people stuffing papers into what look like ballot boxes etc. I don't speak the language or know enough to judge if they're real, but they're being reported by people who are accurate on Ukraine facts. Both sides are making the same claims. Either way, it looks like a mess. Really hope that it won't descend into too much violence but I'm not optimistic.I wonder how much western money has been used to 'support democracy' by supporting the opposition, as well as Russian support for the ruling party. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 27, 2024 17:05:31 GMT
The Ukrainian defences in a chunk of Southern Donetsk seem to be failing.
This is the sort of thing I was worried about, and I believe it was the Putin/Un/Trump plan.
Basically Russia zerg rushes defences until ammo and men run low. If Russia runs low then things settle down for a bit. If Ukraine runs low then Russia makes rapid advances.
This is what I think the MAGA republican plan was. Blockade ammunition for six months to cause a mass casualty event for Ukraine, so that eventually they'd run out of defenders and Russia could advance before it's obvious that Russia can't keep this up for years alone.
Ukraine has slowed these breakthroughs before but it all depends on how how quickly each side is recruiting versus losing people. It's disgusting and horrible and I hate it but that's what all the army people say. 😢
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