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Post by mumf14 on Jun 17, 2008 0:30:18 GMT
Can they be forgiven on the grounds of misplaced manslaughter due to diminished responsibilty.... Or are they just so selfishly evil to deny another human being the right of living a long and fulfilled life.? ???
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Jun 17, 2008 0:35:25 GMT
The second one
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Post by ben88 on Jun 17, 2008 7:08:52 GMT
yep, second
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Post by salopstick on Jun 17, 2008 7:19:54 GMT
if you are refering to that cunt in north wales then there is no excuse in the world to cover what he has done.
HOWEVER the government / the courts etc need to do more in their power to ensure fathers are adequately covered by divorce as the courts always favor the woman often when the correct descision would be to grant custody to the father.
i dont subscribe to the bollocks that children can be better raised by just a mother. if fathers were given proper rights, equal access or shared custody then incidents like this wouldnt happen. also we wouldnt get batman and robin chained to to the top of the london eye!!!!!!!
yes there are bad absent fathers but there are also bad present mothers
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Post by leeklad on Jun 17, 2008 8:22:55 GMT
second.fucking cowards innocent lives lost,poor defenceless kids,its so sad when you read this type of shit
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Post by Northy on Jun 17, 2008 8:49:02 GMT
you've got to be mentally unstable to even contemplate doing what he did in wales. UInfortunatley there seems 1 every year, those poor 4 kids from winsford a couple of years ago
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Post by ben88 on Jun 17, 2008 9:16:09 GMT
that bloke who jumped from his holiday balcony using his lad as a crash mat
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Post by BrianLeicsStokie on Jun 17, 2008 9:28:01 GMT
When Suicide victims also take their kids lives.?......................they need to give BOTH parents equal access rights upon divorce or separation, no questions.
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Post by BrianLeicsStokie on Jun 17, 2008 9:28:53 GMT
that bloke who jumped from his holiday balcony using his lad as a crash mat Nice one Ben ;D
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Jun 17, 2008 9:39:42 GMT
When Suicide victims also take their kids lives.?......................they need to give BOTH parents equal access rights upon divorce or separation, no questions. Except in cases of domestic or sexual violence (usually, but not exclusively male to female), or abuse of any nature on the children, I'd suggest.
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Post by BrianLeicsStokie on Jun 17, 2008 10:55:29 GMT
When Suicide victims also take their kids lives.?......................they need to give BOTH parents equal access rights upon divorce or separation, no questions. Except in cases of domestic or sexual violence (usually, but not exclusively male to female), or abuse of any nature on the children, I'd suggest. Oh yes, agreed. im just talking about 2 capable parents lets say, relationship breaks down, she decides to be a bitch and deny access etc.
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Post by ben88 on Jun 17, 2008 10:57:14 GMT
i think the first thing we need to disscuss is,
is there such thing as a suicide "victim"
can you be a victim of taking your own life?
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Post by BrianLeicsStokie on Jun 17, 2008 10:58:19 GMT
i think the first thing we need to disscuss is, is there such thing as a suicide "victim" can you be a victim of taking your own life? A victim of your own making
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Post by BrianLeicsStokie on Jun 17, 2008 10:59:42 GMT
or the kids are the victims, and he's a murderer?
Depends which way you look at it.
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Post by ben88 on Jun 17, 2008 10:59:47 GMT
a victim of incest raping?
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Post by BrianLeicsStokie on Jun 17, 2008 11:07:05 GMT
a victim of incest raping? Yes i am.....(Who told you?) ;D
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Post by ben88 on Jun 17, 2008 11:18:21 GMT
daddy brian snr
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Post by BrianLeicsStokie on Jun 17, 2008 11:24:04 GMT
If that bastard goes near you again, run like fuck. And dont fall for the "Get this fiver out of my pocket" routine whatever you do.
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Post by BrianLeicsStokie on Jun 17, 2008 11:34:41 GMT
I always thought it was take the fiver slowly from daddies magic love stick?
HE GOT YOU TOO!?!?!?!?
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Post by mermaidsal on Jun 17, 2008 12:05:49 GMT
The poor guy was obviously tonto at the time but I still think there should be a posthumous murder law for these situations. I've been trying to imagine what the last hour of the children's lives were like and it's unbearable, just gross.
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Post by mumf14 on Jun 17, 2008 21:36:37 GMT
The guy in the news this week was a martial arts expert who used to teach the local kids apparently....
A deranged scouser if ever I saw one.
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